Jimmy Page a bit of a paedo?
Just been reading an old Uncut article from 98 about Led Zep and their 'antics' on tour in early 70s. Glorifies it all a bit, including an incident where they tied up a 17 year old woman and used a fish to interfere with her various orifices. And, more shockingly as I did not know, the following:
Jail bait – Los Angeles, June, 1972
Page falls for the 14-year-old child model, Lori Maddox. Kidnapped by Cole one night from the Rainbow bar, she is taken to the Riot House (hotel) for an assignation with the guitarist. No question of sending her back-to-schoolin’: little Lori stays with Page on-and-off for 18 months. Cole and Grant insist that on the road she is kept locked up with a private security guard on the door, fearing that if Page is caught with the under-age girl he will be deported and refused further work permits.
...didn't Jerry Lee Lewis and Woody Allen etc etc do kinda similar? yet Page seems to have this airbrushed over.
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Ol' Dirty Bastard
XX Teens
aye but he's jimmy page......of led zeppelin! ;)
a bit?
david bowie
had already had lori maddox by then
Mate of mine met him once
Said he was carrying a holdall with mannequin limbs in it. Not even joking.
wow
still, we're living in tabloid sex scandal times- remember that a 14 year old girl isn't pedo territory, it's a world apart from a child being sexually abused. But still kinda wrong!!
oh dear i didn't phrase that very well
what i mean is that
it's natural for men to be attracted to pubescent girls, but not to children.. it's pretty wrong I think, but it was kinda accepted at the time, and it's not like he was taking 8 year olds back to his hotel.
Start digging upwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b97zJxKEqAk
Yeah... drop the spade, bro!
*sound of sirens approaching......*
All of those 70s types seem like a bunch of massive sleazy creeps
Robert Plant tried to pull my aunty when she was pretty young and did the 'Don't you know who I am!?' spiel when she told him to essentially fuck off
Technically a paedo is someone who finds pre-pubescent people sexually attractive
14 is wrong but not paedophilia.
Incorrect
A 14 is classes as a minor, therefore it is paedophillia.
Creepy guy.
no, pedophillia is a technical term which refers to someone who is attracted to pre-pubescent children
Ephebophillia is an attraction towards teens
Well, words are used differently in different contexts
'Paedophilia' has a technical meaning as a psychiatric diagnosis which you correctly state.
In everyday parlance it refers to sexual activity with children. Our society defines 14 year olds as children and adults who have sex with them as paedophiles.
I think we are mixing up
what is morally wrong to the individual, the law, and the blur between the two that is "what society regards as acceptable".
I don't understand why you posted this
in a thread about quasi-paedos?
ah yeah, sozzers
lazily didn't look far enough down the PAGE (I punned)
jean seberg
woof.
Bill Wyman!
Probably the individual thing he's best known for is shagging a 13-year-old, but nobody really minded.
I have a feeling that attitudes changed a lot in the '80s/'90s... I mean, the concept of the 'teenager' was only really invented in the '50s, before that you were pretty much regarded as a grown up post pubescence, I guess people were still kicking the idea around a bit in the '70s.
I read Bill Wyman's autobiography a few years ago and it's awful, basically a dead eyed list of women he and the Stones and the Stones' roadies shagged, and most of them appear to have been about 13. I think it was publishd around 1990, but you just wouldn't publish something like that any more.
I think with Jerry Lee Lewis it was the fact it was his cousin that freaked the British out as much as the age thing.
I think it's a bit more recent than that that attitudes changed
Mandy Smith, who got married in 1989, was still kicking around the media in the mid-90s, though it's only very recently she's admitted her relationship with Wyman was sexual before she turned 16. Don't forget also in the 60s you had stuff like You're Sixteen (You're Beautiful And You're Mine) and Gary Puckett's Young Girl as massive hits, and as late as 1976 this remarkable record: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McAsmIR6ENM
Jerry Lee Lewis was blacklisted for a few years in America - in fact his career revival primarily came in the UK, where his problems started.
assuming the journalism in said Page article is correct
which it may not be of course, were attitudes towards kidnapping and locking underage girls in rooms when they should be at school really that different? I mean, it was actually illegal back then, presumably for a reason - I don't think people tended to overly grumble about that fact
Well, no, obviously not that bit
though I assume from the references to their tour manager Richard Cole that it's from Hammer Of The Gods, which is by some accounts quite sensationalised.
hmm, that reminds me though
of the time the News of the World did a countdown to Charlotte Church turning 16, which wasn't so long ago at all...
Realise this in an old thread, but that Charlotte Church 'countdown' thing has been proven to be an urban legend.
big bill wyman took a thirteen year old's hymen.
Iggy Pop too
There's lots of this kind of shenanigans in the biog I read about Iggy Pop. Allegedly, he also used to introduce a lot of them to heroin.
wataguy
self aware though, The Idiot's a great album
according to the uncut article Van fudge just filmed it
The shark episode
– Seattle, May, 1969
When The Sun broke a story about “A young lady who is said to have been whipped with a live octopus,” a matter-of-fact John Paul Jones complained: “I don’t think that’s entirely true. As far as I can remember, it was a dead shark.” Thus was one of the most notorious tales of rock’n’roll Babylon first revealed. The incident took place at the Edgewater Inn, where it was possible to catch fish out of the hotel room windows from the sea below. One night, road manager Richard Cole and Bonham tied a 17-year-old redhead from Portland to the bed and proceeded to insert the shark-like fish they had caught into her vagina and rectum. The proceedings were filmed by Mark Stein of Vanilla Fudge. Cole later claimed that the fish were not sharks but red snappers.
It's Jimmy Page
he can kidnap whoever the FUCK he wants to
Is this like when couples have a list of 5 famous people they can sleep with?
except its 5 famous people each spouse will let their pubescent kids sleep with
Hmmm
This makes me feel a whole lot better about my background.
IT'S FUCKING JIMMY PAGE
END OF
LORI MADDOX ISN'T A CLOWN
I think this record cover epitomised the era
when this behaviour was socially acceptable.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BaxMlnoKZyY/SWf2TACfUrI/AAAAAAAABJQ/4gBzQZ9N7Bs/s400/julies-sixteenth-birthday-john-bult.jpg
i thought you were gonna post that one of a (very) young topless girl holding an aeroplane
(what band released that again? I'm not gonna try and google it) but this is possibly even creepier
Love that...
you still looked regardless! ;)
Blind Faith?
And unlike that cover which presumably someone once found in the back of an old record store, the Blind Faith was high profile priority (they featured Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood and Ginger Baker post-Cream/Traffic)
On a (largely) unrelated note
Steve Winwood is a total arse.
You still see that in the racks of hmv!
Steven Tyler
did the same thing. :(
http://www.feelnumb.com/2011/01/22/steven-tyler-once-had-14-year-old-girlfriend-that-her-parents-signed-over-to-him/
Didn't Ted Nugent try to adopt his underage girlfriend as well? This seems (weirdly) commonplace amongst rock stars in the 1970s.
oh god, the comments under that article...
Oh Christ
I didn't read the comments. :\
wtfffffffffffffffff
oh hang on, according to this she was 16?
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/the-light-of-the-world-the-steve-tyler-and-julia-holcomb-story
which isn't really that weird, unconventional but very different to 14 year old groupies. When I was 16 I knew a girl my age who was going out with a 26 year old, it was a bit weird but I can't remember anyone thinking it was morally wrong.
not that weird for a 16-year-old girl to have sex with a 27-year-old man who is her legal guardian
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i meant the age difference
the legal guardian thing is obviously pretty fucked up
Wow that article was intense.
I'm a little wary of it considering the source, Life Site News, but I suppose that is straight from the 14 or rather 16-year-old girl in question.
it's just REALLY weird
what did the parents of these girls think? What did the girls themselves think?? Where are they now? Do they regret sleeping with rock stars when they were barely in their teens?
It's all pretty foul, hard to believe how accepted it was.
you think it doesn't still happen now?
I think it's harder to pass off as lolsome rock star hi-jinks.
Which isn't to say it doesn't happen, 'cos of course it almost certainly does, but I think the consequences of being found out in terms of public and peer disapproval are much higher than they were back then.
perhaps in the US/UK
but New Jersey ain't the whole world
as a man once said
Didn't Brett Anderson have a relationship with a 16 year old girl
during the Dog Man Star era?
I almost mentioned the infamous
"Bring me a 9 year old!" quote up thread but my undying devotion to Suede made me think better of it...
At least he's not a hypocrite like Radiohead
Is hypocrisy killing Radiohead?
Are paedophiles killing Radiohead?
Are paedophiles killing hypocrisy?
Think about it.
Insert Woody Allen reference/penis
Just seen this on facebook
http://blog.tastebuds.fm/worst-album-covers-of-all-time/
some of then def fit in with the inappropriate sex theory* not being as controversial in the old days. Highlights include ''My pussy belongs to daddy'' and ''Julie's Sixteenth Birthday''
*that's a band name right there.
That Julie one really is a doozy
I've said it before when the bad cover subject has come up
but that Millie Jackson one kills me every time.
That Can I Borrow A Feeling one is fake right? I mean, that's from the Simpsons isn't it?
It does look at bit fake
The ''Jesus use me'' one is amazing.
fao Roman Polanski
we're all probably better off just listening to the songs
the less we know the better.
christ, what a bunch of sick, twisted bastards.
modern musicians are such pussies
NEWS JUST IN: the fat one from Real Estate has been caught in just his Y-fronts feeding a 9 year old boy some Angel Delight that was well past its sell-by date!!!
pussies>paedos
I've never understood
how Bill Wyman got away with it while Gary Glitter got crucified.
cos Glitter downloaded child porn and sexually abused pre-pubescent girls
but I do find it bizzarre that Wyman practically hasn't been criticised at all.
Has anyone heard 'Fifteen' by Standard Fare?
Possibly creepier than many of the things mentioned on this thread.
I've always thought My Sharona was a dodgy bit of paedo-pop
Never gonna stop
Give it up
Such a dirty mind
I always get it up
For the touch
Of the younger kind
hmmmmmm
hey, keep Woody Allen out of this
that girl was over twenty, but obviously his long-time partner's adopted child. keep him in the creepy stepdad category.
70's rock press was full of these stories...
and girls - especially LA girls (star obsessions in your own back yard i guess) - took it all & wore it like a badge of honor. The cliched age-old story was usually that daddy was some rich corporate guy who had his own pervy scene & ignored the family. And the idolized rockers took things as far as they could for laughs and bragging rights. Frank Zappa made a career out of chronicling this crap, until he got tired of it & probably too old & ineffective & decided to noodle away on his guitar instead. Then comes the 2nd wave, pretenders all, GnR, Van Halen, Aerosmith. Pathetic. And now, what, today Pamela Des Barres is a role model? Planty is some "authentic" muso? Fun to read about, sad to think about.
"If I played guitar I'd be Jimmy Paaaagggee...
The girlie's I like, are under aggeeeeeee"
I came here to post this. Well played.
John Peel married a 15 year old when he was working in Texas
Though I believe it was perfectly legal at the time, I don't have his book to hand but if I remember correctly it was never consumnated?
Houses of the Holy artwork
Little girls trying to get away from Jimmy Page, cos he just gon fishin'
http://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&source=mog&hl=en&gl=uk&tab=wi&q=houses%20of%20the%20holy&sa=N&biw=320&bih=528#i=0
Ugh link
http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/led-zeppelin-houses-of-the-holy-back.JPG
How talented do you have to be to fuck a kid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tq4pyxQ_Q2g#t=439s
In light of certain other Jimmys..
maybe worth a bump?
i saw something in the paper the other day
pulling a load of lyrics out of old 70s songs. they were all at it weren't they?