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Yes, 'good free online music makers'. My optimism probably should be checked a little. Anyway, I need something which i can loops on. And then export to MP3. I'm not sure you can export to MP3 on Audiotool. I want to be able to take the loops or beats i make and paste them together on some other program. Or maybe the same on if it's good and the music c an be exported and not just posted on their website.

But also i want more than just loops and drums. For example, one piece of music i want to do entails sustained chords (if that makes sense) not just bleeps. I tried Aviary Roc but not sure the sounds can be sustained. Any ideas? Does any of this make any sense whatsover?