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I'm a pop scholar
Anyone who says that and means it how your wording implies it should mean, is actually quite passionate about music.
Deconstruct and discover. Language is a gift. And so on.
sure, most people can't legitimately substantiate liking literally "everything" - even those who claim to love music from across the spectrum will have a weak genre or two - but it's kinda important to differentiate between the person who:
a) "likes a bit of everything" (as in, likes Pitbull, The Courteneers, Nero, Hed Kandi-type stuff)
b) "likes a bit of everything" (has a deep knowledge of music and can largely find positive elements to take and enjoy from most of what they hear)
however snobby that might sound, it's a generalised statement which kinda has lost meaning in the case of (a). but I don't personally see anything wrong with the idea that - as w/(b) - there's a lot of varied music out there to be enjoyed, and certainly it wouldn't put me off that person
there's nothing wrong AT ALL with people having limited musical knowledge and liking what they like - if that's what they dig, that's cool by me. I mean explicitly within the parameters of "I like a bit of everything"
regarding statement (b). There is nothing wrong with that. I just get annoyed by people that say "I like everything" when in reality, they just listen to whatever is on the radio and know next to nothing about music. I've encountered so many people like this and while it's fine that not everyone shares the same obsessive passion for music that I have, I don't see why these people can't just admit to be "casual music fans" or whatever.
Of course, if people do genuinely take pleasure in listening to a variety of music then that's totally cool.
It generally seems that people who who use that phrase tend to listen exclusively to Radio One though. Again, that doesn't bother me as long as they then don't claim to have eclectic taste.
No one here cares whether someone listens to Steps or Stockhausen or anything else - I just ain't going to be having a musical discussion with someone whose idea of wide-ranging taste means "from Nickelback to Guns n Roses". It woudn't be fun for either party.
i answer by telling them what i don't like. it's easier, not because i think i have a particularly stunningly broad palette or anything, but there are fewer things i hate than i love.
If the people who you are talking to doesn't know what it is, you explain it so they can get an idea of your music... Otherwise, you're just being lazy (and let's face it, nobody will explain minimal techno in this social events, what i meant is that actually is nothing has to do with snobbery to talk about your musical preferences)
"what's pretentious in saying that you like minimal techno, abstract electronica etc?"
IMO: these genres are quite difficult to really enjoy listening (I mean for most people). So, they assume that you really don't like this kind of music; you just pretend to like abstract electronica to appear as a cool person...
People describing their own taste in music as 'eclectic'. (For bonus cringe points, include the words 'from rap to classical'.)
I like a bit of everything
i guess you guys hate me
which makes me hate it even more. It's a bloody stupid question though, so they deserve it.
if you genuinely like music you can't articulate your tastes in a few words. But, this awkward exchange seems a mandatory gateway into discovering if you have compatible taste with someone, eventually.
"i like all sorts of stuff" or similar. nobody really wants to hear me rattle off a list of genres, and listing just one or two would be giving a false representation.
Whenever someone who likes A Day To Remember or some such wank asks me what music I'm into.
they're fucking douchebags
I suppose I would say the same.
because I listen to quite a lot of stuff it's easier to talk about what I like and relate after they've told me what they are into. Lots of times previously I've just reeled off a list of stuff I like and they just look at me confused, even if it's (certainly in DiS world I guess) relatively known stuff which it mostly is.
by "except (rap, classical, etc etc.)" So then you don't like a little bit of everything, so please f*** off :)
When people say they like everything, I sometimes ask them for their top five favourite dancehall/noise/shoegaze/etc. records.
you want to go for country or skiffle or something
or I say something along the lines of "all sorts". What the fuck am I supposed to say when asked what kind of music I'm into (realise there's been a thread on this topic)?
In answer to the OP's question: "I like Dream Theater/Skrillex/Ed Sheeran/any artist that I find deeply despicable" normally makes me doubt they'd ever like any acceptable music.
But Dream Theater rule, and lumping them in with Skrillex and Ed Sheeran is an insult.
Music just isn't as good as it used to be.
'One of the most depressing things in the world to me is how people start to get frozen in their 30s. You'll hear your friends say, "I don't know any new bands," or, "Oh, did you hear there's a new record by this band?" And it'll be some indie rock band where it's like, "Really? They're still around?" [laughs] Some people might snarkily say that about us.
'A music fan that doesn't have it in them to find new music anymore is like absolute death to me. What are you even doing being alive if you're not trying to constantly grow? And I don't mean just in terms of music, but in terms in pushing yourself to try different foods and watch different kinds of movies. The world encourages you to lock into a particular routine. I fucking hate when I hear people in their 50s say, "I'm too old to change." Fuck you, you're lucky to be alive, asshole. Why don't you try to grow? It's a gift to get to be born and not suddenly die of cancer or get hit by a car. One day, you're gonna be a rotting body in the ground and you're gonna be like, "Wow, I kinda wish I listened to new music from ages 30 to 70."'
but he sounds like a rolled-gold fucking twat. I mean I agree with his basic sentiment, but to hear him proclaiming it from a 50ft high horse like that just makes me want to kick him in the nuts.
for people not to go stale, not to become staid and dull?
I don't get it when people get irked about this and start rolling out the old soapbox shit. what's your problem, man? people who have the platform ought to use it like this.
but this is just preachy, embarrassing angry-young-man stuff. When he switches gears and starts on the "it's a gift to get born" bit... as I say, ripe for a good solid nut-kicking.
that, had a regular DiSser said that rather than Will Sheff, they'd be castigated. Love Will Sheff mind.
watch different kinds of movies????
sounds like a fucking crocodile and kangaroo burger eating absolute typhoon of dicks to me.
You start to lose interest in things a bit as you get older as you have families/get more involved in careers/sink into a pit of lethargic despair at life in general etc. If you manage to still listen to as much music when you're 50 as when you're 18, and it genuinely all means as much to you, then fair-fucking play. But if you think this applies to you, chances are, it won't. Unlucky.
But don't judge those who can't and don't. What an absolute wanker.
IS this a joke?
gives a shit about what music they listened to i imagine.
Or NEDS. Or Stone Roses for that matter.
Back to sleep now.
usually mean you're in the presence of a musical cretin
Even the guardian has this right. We have far too many micro-genres for largely similar western music, but the varying music of other countries, continents in fact, is just labelled "world music".
Finally, someone else who thinks this too. Since I first became aware of "world music" I thought the term was horrible.
Before he descended into a bottomless pit of "roots" music tedium.
Which is a sin not easily forgiven.
My Family was quite good when Nick was in it
I WOULD NEVER SAY THIS
I generally spend about an hour before company shows up filling the CD jukebox with a well rounded mix of stuff. Then someone asks for that shit. So then I resort to the cable music stations - "party mix" or some other banal crap.
..and it was described as Organic, it kinda put me off buying it, but I did, and thankfully I didn't find it Organic.
Easier life that way. And it's generally true (with the people who ask me anyway).
the interesting thing is that i sometimes say it when someone asks me what i am listening to because i strangely feel bad when i am about to say something rather obscure. i do it because they sometimes dismiss me bexause of that. :/
getting all enthusiastic that someone maybe even cares, leaping at the chance to share, to impart, and as soon as it dawns on them that it's not someone they know, they mentally glaze over, and oh fuck you, WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER FUCK OFF *puts headphones back on*.
but with the caveat that I've also never heard anybody use the words "pop scholar" either to refer to themselves or someone else, either ironically or otherwise, IRL or on the web, other than in the OP. Why is nobody questioning this? Do these people actually exist? If someone said that to me I'd laugh in their face.
Or something. I thought it was a thing. I'm sure that wasn't the first time I'd heard it either, otherwise I wouldn't have got so peeved to start a thread about it.
I'll almost deliberately not listen to something when people really, REALLY push for me to listen to it though and then avoid all music-based conversations with them in future. Is that kinda the same thing?
and anyone who has a cold.
So yeah music has all got to be oh so bloody cheery? So that would dismiss a huge proportion of great music / bands
but the opposite is just as annoying.
'yeah, who needs lyrics?!' = post-rock fanboy (or present day equivalent...drone/ambient fanboy?).
okay pal. but promise me you won't now form a band because you finally discovered a form of music that can be played by pussies who are too scared to sing.
I have seen more awful EitS/Mogwai/Godspeed fanboy bands than I would care to mention.
it's the pretense of it all. they end up making music that's even worse than the music they hate. limpid and weak and utterly uninspired.
...as my mate once described dance music to me. To be fair, I only dismissed his taste in dance music; he had pretty good taste otherwise.
In general, I'll dismiss somebody's taste in (a certain type of) music if they clearly have never really bothered to try listening to it, make loads of assumptions about it/people who listen to it and start sneering at it or at them. So, anybody with a closed mind. After all, it's impossible for any individual to give every genre/era a fair listen, so there's always somebody whose tastes are outside yours.
sets the twat factor dial at 10 immediately.
People describe themselves as hipsters?
Just enjoy what you enjoy with a clean conscience, ffs.
And thought it was pretty damn good?
Deep and meaningful lyrics are a vastly overrated concept.
(is a lyricist)
I just think you're weary from too many sub-par wordsmiths.
it's like...nobody ever says, 'aww, hey, books...and their words? get back to the nineteenth century, Lewis Carroll!'.
people just need to be more creative. words are magic in the right hands.
But i hardly ever find them to add anything to a song.
I'll concede that Wichita Lineman and Hurt have me in bits so I'm not completely immune.
And all they're thinking of is Damien Rice
and where I think they're usually as important if not moreso than the music - but then that would be worthless if his music wasn't mega-great as well. Probably well illustrated by the fact that I start to lose interest in him beyond the 60s.
Yes, you read that right
like it's not just Radio 2 for Smiths fans.
the weekday daytime stuff can get a bit drab but the nights and weekends has some gold on it. have they got rid of liz fucking kershaw yet though? SO ANNOYING.
but most of the listeners actively seem to hate it. And the response to the Kraftwerk thing said everything about how narrow the general listener tastes are.
All the 6 music people I know spent the whole time moaning about their being too much electronica, not enough guitars, "I like Kraftwerk but I don't want to listen to them" sort of bollocks. Pretty much the same reaction Freakzone gets as well.
Hate that sort of thing.
My main exposure to 6music is through Tom Ravenscroft's show and (for comedy) Adam & Joe / Collins & Herring / Peter Serafinowicz, so my knowledge of any 6music audience twattishness is pretty low.
was AMAZING. Especially Jarvis's Krautrock history show with Faust and Neu! talking. So good.
...they give any reason that isn't to do with the music. It really irks me when people say thay really like a band because the "lead singer is cute" that's like declaring Gigli is a great movie because you fancy Jennifer Lopez.
Films are a visual artform, so fancying someone in one is an understandable reason for liking it (if a bit silly). It's more like saying you like The Hay Wain because Constable was a hottie.
Paintings are a visual artform too, so that's bollocks. But you know what I meant.
Liking Harry Potter because you think Rowling's a bit of a MILF.
ok, bye then
It contains the one good song ever done by each of Kid Rock, The Cure, Katrina & the Waves, the Pogues, Iron Maiden, Blue Oyster Cult, Van Halen, and Derek & the Dominoes, plus the O Fortuna from Carl Orff's Carmina Burana. The album "art" is some Wensleydale with a picture of Wallace & Gromit on the label.
the Pogues and the Cure in the above paragraph, you are DISmissed.
a) Muse are great, or
b) Muse are shit
Because my own opinion of them swings between these two on a daily basis. I actually think they're kind of both.
I'm only here for the banter and larks.
What about the shabs?!
Someone used the word 'Dench' as an adjective to me the other day, I almost cried and had to use the urban dictionary.
30 something friends pulling the "are they still around" line with most bands we liked when we were younger. These are all bands still putting out incredible music today. This also annoys me to no end though I can't quite put a finger as to why. These are the same people that believe no good music has occurred since they were in College and are very selective on any new music they bring into their life like it's uncool to like music some trendy kid in their early 20's likes.
referring to Dodgys new album
if they haven't heard them thats fine, but if they have and then didn't like it.....well they are not to be trusted on anything - i think less of them as a person.
I've tried to get loads of girls into them and so far 100% have been unimpressed. I don't know if this just means women are inherently awful, but I'm not ruling it out.
when I blast out Life Coach really fucking loud on repeat while I do my uni work. She probably hates it but is too nice to tell me.
Not because I don't appreciate their contribution, but I'd hate to be so certain music peaked 45 years ago.
People who bang on about how absolutely everything was better fifty years ago. How do these people find the strength to get out of bed every morning with such a bleak outlook?
someone actually said this to me recently.
at least they aren't pretending. Its kind of baffling, sure, but as long as you have SOMETHING to be interested in.
I don't believe you.
Not just that they're not interested in it, they genuinely hate it and don't understand what everyone is banging on about. In some extreme cases, it causes physical pain for them to listen to music.
I've met one of the former. He doesn't like music, can't see any merit in it, in some cases can't even differentiate between songs. It completely baffled me. It wasn't just "Nah, can't be bothered" it was "I hate it, I would rather it didn't exist".
i'm sure they're nice guys but their music makes me want to kill.
I don't understand how you could go to uni and not get into dubstep.
If its (e. dubstep) you wan't, I'm your man/woman!
more the general vibe i get from them. like one person could tell me they like bruno mars and i might think "yeah, that makes sense" and another person say the same thing and i'd be nonplussed.
when i get asked what music i like, i say "good music" which is the answer of a cunt but god, there just isn't a good answer to that question.
I'm going to V Festival again this year..."
does anyone know what the real ale line-up for this year's end of the road festival is?
Completely straight-faced reply to an enquiry into their taste. I no longer associate with this person.
"I like dubstep, like Skrillex"
A woman at work asks, when something not to her taste comes on during iTunes shuffles: "Let's have something gay on".
probably a fair point, most good music is pretty gay
you should put this on
He even refuses to listen to the first los campesinos! album because their last one is called hello sadness. Though truth be told he still thinks its 2007 and listens to landfill indie like the kooks/pigeon detective.
But then asking them what their favourite Stones/Beatles etc album is, then you get the "don't really have a favourite, they are all brilliant" answer, the blank/nervous look on their face, probably hoping you don't pursue the matter further.
rather than selfish reasons, i.e. because they resonate with you as an individual, mean you've got bad taste in it?
I mean, of course it does, I'm just playing devil's advocate for the sake of it.
I don't buy music any more
and misspelling 'always'
Spelling intentional. Thought it was clever when I was drunk about 10 years ago- regretted it since!
Glad you agree with me though- I can't listen to anyone's opinion on music if they say they never buy it.
WILL I PASS ALLWAYS' TEST
FIND OUT IN 4 MINUTES
I don't really know what the fuck you're on about to be honest!
for the post-grunge-nu-alt-grind-gaze-electro-dark-emo-core movement myself.
i dismiss your taste in music.
Common response at work when i tell them what band I'm going to see live or am listening to on my ipod. I just normally say "read about them" and they are baffled cos it's not on radio 1.
I told some co-workers that I was excited about the Joy Formidable/A Place to Bury Strangers show last week and they just looked at me funny :)
They'd say "who are Engineers"?
Just face it
(that otherwise wasn't very good), but for a split second I really wanted to fuck her. She wasn't all that, so luckily I came to my senses.
Girl like Catherine Wheel, cool. Down big fella!
But if she'd said, "Catherine Wheel is for the people!" I don't know. Maybe we'd be picking out patterns and baby furniture...
i.e. 'at all'
Radiohead are innovative
here we go again
namedrop John Lydon and call him "Lyndon"
(she is 36 btw) I knew the end was nigh..
only like 10 radiohead mentions.
nah, fuck off, I'm not having that
For those of you lucky enough to have never heard them: http://youtu.be/wSaGwKE5sFY
I genuinely dislike anyone who claims to like this.
I definitely DO NOT like Hotpants Romance. Eugh.
just a bit of fun