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(had this thread before).
'This Is A Low' aside it's just dead cheesy.
The second half kills the first half dead - but it's still Blur's worst album IMO. I even prefer Leisure.
If so, put me down for Definitely Maybe. Also:
Dark Side Of The Moon
with you on Grace, I just don't get his voice.
Dark Side I dislike, but I can understand why it's rated, I just don't really enjoy Floyd.
is quite spectacularly dull.
It really isn't mind blowingly amazing I find. And I really like the Beach Boys, but their albums can plod along a bit.
...a couple of weeks ago. Played Revolver afterwards and there really is no comparison.
And by yes, I mean not in any way
but then it's got 'Eleanor Rigby' and 'Yellow Submarine' on it, neither of which I ever want to hear again in my life.
Admittedly Pet Sounds has 'Sloop John B' which is in a similar category, but the rest of it is amazing.
I rate Pet Sounds way higher than Revolver, but love Eleanor Rigby!
Actually I quite like the instro version of rigby on anthology. but these are dumb songs by bands that certainly had their share of 'em. The fact that they could do so much more allows for these turds to exist. Brian Wilson accepting Al Jardine's suggestion for Sloop John B? Must've been the acid. And poor Ringo, given another piece of shit. If he turned it down, I bet it wouldn't have ever seen the light of day. ANYWAY at the time the REAL story was the west coast sound.
Revolver was overrated. Rubber Soul is their best album as a whole, largely because it doesn't have any joke songs on it (ie. what John Lennon referred to as 'Paul's granny shit') and therefore can be enjoyed all the way through.
Rubber Soul is the best Beatles album, no shit songs, still a bit of the early excitement mixed with a bit of the later ambition.
I think it's the last album where they sound like a band - from Revolver on there are very defintely 'Paul Songs' and 'John Songs'.
That's not to say that Revolver is a bad album of course, three quarters of it is complete genius.
Sgt Pepper, now that is rubbish (one great song, two or three decent ones and loads of 'granny shit')
Then I will answer your question.
I've listened to it over and over because I sort of feel there is something there that I'm missing.
I kind of like it, I think I understand it but I really don't get what makes so many people whose opinions I trust think it's as great as they do.
WE WILL TAKE OFF OUR CLOTHES AND THEY'LL BE PLA-HE-ACING FINGERS THROUGH THE NOTCHES IN YOUR SPINE AND WHEN AAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL IS BREAKING
it's just the best album, so eerily perfect in every way.
I don't see why anyone would.
The words and emotions expressed through his astonishing voice and instrumentation just punched me in the gut.
then I'm with you 100%
why are you doing it again. why not just bump the old one. that's what everyone else does.
As would any Pitchfork list ever.
never got these >
Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street
Patti Smith - Horses
Cream - Disraeli Gears
i fucking hate Clapton all he stands for.
no one else was playing like him, the field was wide open. Now we've got everyone out there, from Van Halen jackoffs to a whole 'nother miserable gang of folkie asswipes. so it was right place right time just like that other dickwad presley.
... deliciously destroyed:
How on earth can you not "get" it as a ball-bouncingly brilliant rock and roll album?
I "get it" as in I know what it is trying to do. I just don't think it is particularly brilliant.
Anyway, I don't get Patti Smith, she belongs in the same category of overrated earnest shite as Neil Young.
It's like saying that the Spice Girls belong in the same category of disposable pop shite as The Velvet Underground
I mean do you have any idea how crap a recommendation that is
Fucking shit, cheesy wank if you ask me.
But it's hard to understand anyone who describes 'God Only Knows' or 'Caroline No' as 'Fucking shit, cheesy wank'.
Takes all sorts I suppose.
The rest of it is pure magic.
I 'don't get' In the Aeroplane Over The Sea because the part of me that feels I'm missing something.
I absolutely 'get' St Pepper, but happen to think it's the most ludicrously over-rated album in rock history
Not a massive fan of Velvet Underground & Nico either.
Its a good album but not sure its as good as it often places on all-time charts...also Born To Run but that's more preference rather than not 'getting' it I think.
PJ Harvey album from last year. boy am i missing something with that one.
Husker Du: Zen Arcade
really not a very good band at all
New Day Rising and Flip your Wig are incredible albums
(let's just not mention the Baby Song, ok?)
no offence but if you don't like Pet Sounds you are certifiably a massive cunt
and of course....correct
Patti Smith - Horses
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures/Closer
Happy Mondays - Pills, Thrills n' Bellyaches
Nirvana - Nevermind
Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks
The Clash - London's Calling/The Clash
Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombone
and those are just the ones that scream to mind...
...that you don't like music.
"reviewing your list, I regret to inform you....
...that you don't like wildly overrated music."
You are correct.
...if you think some of these great albums aren't all they're cracked up to be.
That's a straight up honest enquiry that.
that I don't love any of these albums either, with the probable exception of Blonde On Blonde - BUT I think Dylan isn't as wall-to-wall great as is claimed either. I would say Blonde On Blonde is his best album - man, that organ.
So fair shout really.
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is something I'm always recommended, but can never love.
And although I quite like Joy Division, I find the bands they influenced to be much better than JD themselves.
most people incl. "journalists" have shitty taste
I really like Sonic Youth and have tried to listen to DN on numerous occasions but it's just not happening for me I'm afraid
I much preferred Sister and Evol. Then it all just clicked into place.
I tried for ages to like Daydream Nation, and to like Sonic Youth in general. I mean, they're great and all, but I have never managed to sit through the whole of Daydream Nation without getting bored. I think my favourite SY album is probably Goo, which isn't very cool :(
..with you're comment completely. Daydream Nation has 3-4 incredible songs but on a whole Goo is sooooo much better.
most accessible album they've made by far
It was the first one by them I heard, and it took me years to get to the point I am now with it. It felt like I was missing some vital thing necessary to appreciating it, but eventually I found it. It's such a colossal, colourful record somehow.
My opinion of Goo on the other hand has stayed the same since I first heard it. I like it, but on a more basic level because it sounds really shallow in comparison. Apart from 'Disappearer' of course which is pretty intense.
5 or so great songs
defo nowhere near their best album - probably Sister is, followed by Evol, Bad Moon Rising and Murray Street
or pretty much any Pavement album
if you dont like an album, you dont like an album. its not that you dont "get it" or anythhing, its just that you disagree with other peoples view on an album. classic albums are just ones that a number of people over a number of years decide are good, you are still allowed not to like them. its not some kind of human failing to not enjoy Daydream Nation, you dont get kicked out of indie club for not liking pavement. Music is subjective, and thats why it is so fucking awesome.
not just, I dont like such and such a "classic album".
Complete with thises, jesus christ
and b) why, because i think that "classic album" is merely a social construct and in no way objectively represents the quality of an album.
Is some of his best work.
Hence, they are monikered "great".
Apart from the "singles" I just can't get into it.
...If an album is rated seminal or great I often find that it really is and if I don't realise this straight away, it often comes round in the end.
Therefore, the majority of albums which are generally reckoned 'great', I just have to give more time or I have to be in the right frame of mind to appreciate them.
For example, 'In the Aeroplane over the Sea' by Neutral Milk Hotel would be an album I would never got into right now if I'd discovered it because I'm listening to a lot of 80s music and electronic cold wave - it wouldn't stand a chance in my current trend. Sometimes, your appreciation works a bit like that I think.
You've got to discover the right album at the right time. This is further reinforced by the fact that there are plenty of albums I know are excellent because they made a real impression on me when I first listened to them but they're not having half as much impact at the moment because I'm just not diggin' that sound right now. I still know the album is ace but it's not working for me at the moment.
At least, that's what I think.
Not for me though, just know a good number of people who don't get it even though they consider themselves big Radiohead fans.
I totally agree with Violator - I remember it took me several years to get to like Radiohead ... One day 'the Bends' clicked for me, then the rest ...
Later Radiohead I understand, but The Bends is basically U2 with a slightly pointier head
Has some great singles on it - but as an all-time great album? Meh. Primal Scream have to be the most wanton mercenary zeitgeist-chasers of the last 20 years or so. Still I think I can forgive them anything for having made 'Higher Than The Sun'...
Which is why I could never really love Primal Scream as a band.
But Screamadelica - how can you help loving it? (perhaps it helps if you just think of it as a Andrew Weatherall album)
than anything by sabres of paradise.
not sure if it's better than Screamadelica though.
I REEEEAAALLY like a number of the tracks, but I don't get what is so great!
...after the scores of things it influenced, you wouldn't get it. But when it came out it was on another level to anything else sound-wise, production-wise and texturally.
...apart from Odelay.
Between us we are the perfect Beck fan.
every time i listen to it i expect it to click and to suddenly become aware of the genius of it but it just hasnt happened
The drift. Nah, don't get it. I happen to think that those who claim to get it are damn liers.
that album is not exactly livening-up-your-commute material but i would be pretty hard pressed to find many faults with it. what do you not like?
and uncomfortable listen and personally never 'got it'. My reference to others fibbing about getting it was tongue in cheek. But I was surprised by the mass boner it received at release.
"I find it a very difficult.. and uncomfortable listen"
Yep. That's the point!
feeling indie as fuck right now
I much prefer the first LCD Soundsystem album...
Let the hate start!!!
Radiohead - Kid A
Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin (and I REALLY like a lot of other Lips albums)
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (there are a couple of great songs though)
Led Zeppelin IV
It's not that any of the above are rubbish, just I can't fathom how they are respected so highly by so many people. To each their own though
Not a specific album but them in general.
poor you guys.