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but nothing could have prepared me
kill it with fire please
No. Please no.
is probably chuffed.
Good stuff. Not a fan of their music but - generalising - their 'fanbase demographic' tend to be a bit like "politics, it's not for me". It's nice to see a mainstream band, however shit they may be, having an opinion on something other than Adele's "I hate taxes" bullshit.
fwiw I think the Liturgy + TVOTR Occupy Wall Street song is just as crap http://pitchfork.com/news/44989-listenwatch-members-of-tvotr-liturgy-record-an-occupy-wall-street-anthem/
Maybe someone whose music I like will make a great fuck off Tory anthem for the 2k10s. Maybe it will be me. Maybe Girls will be the ones to offer up a musical critique of late period capitalism and laissez faire economics. I wouldn't get your hopes up.
it's the usual unthinking 'fuck all rich people I hope they burn' kind of stuff, enlightening and informing precisely no one.
Are you a fan of rich people then?
and I see your point that it's good that they're bothering to be political, but ill thought through politics is almost as bad as not caring about politics, and that's what this strikes me as. The Rolling Stones album which came out in 2005 or whatever had the following couplet about Bush: 'You think you're a patriot/I think you're a crock of shit', which is an example of what I'm saying. It's embarrassing and it's not going to make any teenager think 'Oh shit this stuff really is important!'
But I agree, Adele's recent 'rant' was very silly and ignorant too.
They were hardly Johnathan Richman to start with were they? I'm no expert on the lyrical syntax of Rou Shikari but this one doesn't strike me as being particularly shit compared to the rest of their stuff.
Look, the song is pretty cringeworthy but I think it's pretty bad for people [on a generally middle-left messageboard] to slag off a band purely for their politics.
I don't think it's 'for their politics', though, nobody here cares if they're left or right wing. It's more the fact that they had the chance to write a really great political anthem and obviously had the best of intentions, but blew it, and as a band that a lot of people like, that is a real shame. No biggie though :-)
there's 3 reasons you could pick this song particularly as being a load of shit:
a) You're right wing
b) You don't like bands to be political
c) You're disappointed they don't reference the work of 19th century anarchist philosopher Pyotr Kropotkin
Obviously if it's because of choice (a) you're a scumbag who should be shot against the wall.
If it's because of choices (b) or (c) then you're peddling separative nonsense.
the word's separatist.
the song is shit. the band is shit. get over it.
it's not C, though Kropotkin rocks.
B, well, not sure, I do love my politics but I've seldom heard much 'political' music I've really enjoyed, I think it's very hard to do properly. I don't think this *particularly* is shit, though they're a shit band. I just think it's silly and representative of a lot of people's opinions at the moment- 'fuck da bankers'. That's an opinion I agree with, ftr, but it needs to be informed to be held. I'm sorry if I sound like a snob there but that's how I feel.
Also I am inherently sceptical of political bands on large record labels, for obvious reasons.
As for your last bit, I dunno if you're trolling or not, but I hope not. I was occupying last term and it was very worthwhile. Anyway, yes Enter Shikari blow, but this isn't much worse than a lot of ill informed songs on all sorts of subjects.
but I just find this particular song really, really shit, musically.
I don't mind the lyrics, or even the quite stupid title, but in reality, the song is pure shit.
The song is shit, yes, but it's no shitter than their rest of their discography. Thus people in this thread must be picking on it in particular for a reason. I wonder why that is?
HMMMMMMMMMMM YES THAT'S A THINKER
no blud it's just mindblowingly shit
who shouldn't really be criticising a lack of nuance in others.
I'm going to add you to the list though.
probably should've been on from the start though
Lack of subtlety isn't the sole problem with Enter Shikari. In fact, its probably more of a saving grace.
no, see, people are mocking this because it's literally awful, not because there's no indie points in it. in fact, the only person posturing in this thread is you, stood at the sidelines stroking your chin.
almost seems like you like ES and that's where this is coming from.
wouldn't that have been convenient for you if i said "BECAUSE IT MEANS U R GAY!!111"
i like some music that nearly all of DiS probably thinks is even worse than this (and i'm fine with that) so you're wasting your time bringing this argument to me.
but this is shit and that's why it's being mocked.
you're so much better than this.
I am now going to listen to this album. wish me luck and see you on the other side.
still here, just about. Had to listen to a lot of Pavement to cleanse myself.
Whatever else is released this year, the existence of this record makes it a shit year for music automatically.
i will say that this is probably an improvement on their other stuff - then again i find this kinda thing quite entertaining
musically they are still really bad of course
does everyone here like Colour Me Wednesday by the way?
they're the best vegan socialist indiepop band that haven't got an album out yet in the country.
but i just listened to this 3 times in a row, so i guess they have something
only good thing about it
but also play exceptional vegan-feminist punk/indie/folkpunk and they are probably the north east's best, funniest and most moving band
here they are getting to the point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM9G5RJv1dI
and loads of other bands the dis collective wets themselves over?
how bout these lyrics from one of my the greatest bands of all time:
Feed the hungry
In the mines of Bolivia
In the factories of South Africa
In the streets of Indonesia
Feed the hungry
More than 10,000 men women children
die of starvation every day
The major cause of famine and poverty is
organised human greed
Feed the hungry
In the camps of Cambodia
In the shanty towns of India
In the prisons of Argentina
Exploit cheap labour
The rape of the Third World
Western bankers decide who lives and who dies
28 human beings
21 of them children die as a result of hunger
every minute every hour of every day
Profit is thicker than blood
I present the illuminati
They exploit cheap labour
Here come the imperialists
Here come the Rockefellers
Here come the Rothchildes
Here comes Carrington
Here comes B.P.
Here comes America
Here comes Russia
Here comes China
with their policies of aid
So few own so much
dunno exactly what my point is, if i have one
enter shikari do suck balls and the pop group totally rule (as a side note i think mark stewart's lyrics can be really good)
i guess the point was having naive political lyrics doesn't really make a band necessarily bad, the shitty music does. which i guess had already been mentioned, so probably best to disregard this entirely
their songs are about the awkwardness of looking for love, and are very cleverly nuanced. Other bands maybe, Frank Turner is pretty shit lyrically and rated on here.
Please, please stop it.
I'm almost liking it. It's mildly political in the unwashed studint-wiv-axe-to-grind way which is grating, and someone needs to point out to Rou that aping the mockney banter of The Streets doesn't instantly make you the man of the people, but overall a fair effort and they are evolving as a band pretty much on their own terms, so fair play to them I say.
Give me this over Wild Beasts anyday...
I might well lose my shit.
This is the worst track on the album... Lyrics aside that is - in that department it's much the same. That synth is truly awful.
They're to be taken with a dose of silliness.
anyway, whatever, they're only saying what we're all thinking when we listen to the today show.
never fails to crack me up.
You'll figure it out, clever lads.