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are good AND got better with each album.
I'll go for St Vincent.
Controversial but true
I'll admit Karen O improved vocally but you can't really be serious about this. It's Blitz is mostly forgettable with maybe two or three good songs. Fever to Tell is amazing the whole way through and then kicks you in the nuts in the end with maps and y control.
By contrast, It's Blitz starts off by kicking you in the nuts and then carries on kicking you in the nuts. The only weak track is Dragon Queen, which I hated at first, but have since come to appreciate for its nod towards Blondie.
however I cannot help but feel Show Me Your Bones is clearly their weakest effort
for the way it works its art-rockery into and amongst more conventional/accessible song structures and soundscapes. I grew up seeing dozens of local bands playing Sonic Youth inspired alt/art-rock and FTT just sounds to me like more of the same — Maps excepted, of course. SYB sees the YYYs adopt a more subversive stance (to use a horrible phrase) by kind of sneaking it into more "mainstream" songs and sounds.
Then again, this is coming from a self-confessed lover of cross-over albums: Good News is my favourite Modest Mouse album, Dirty is my favourite Sonic Youth album, Doolittle is my favourite Pixies album, Black Holes & Revelations is my favourite Muse album, Welcome to the Monkeyhouse is my favourite Dandies album (though Thirteen Tales and the most recent one come pretty close), etc.
a lot of filler
to get the ratio of cracking songs to "album tracks" up to 2:1, but even as it is that's a much better hit rate (to my ears) than FTT.
Warrior is the best track on the album
i actually think i agree with you guys now because i've been listening to it again since!
curious as to what new direction they might go in next, if there is one
Less controversial, equally true
Not enough of a fan to care whether or not that's controversial or true
In Utero towers over Nevermind which was still a significant step up from Bleach, as good as that first record is.
in the sense that it is more commercially viable. Bleach is by far the better record.
it's like the perfect middle ground between the Melvins, Black Flag and the Pixies. Nevermind trades in a good deal of that Sabbath-influenced sludge for pop sensibility.
with your working, but not with the result. guess we'll have to agree to disagree here.
however sometimes i think their second album is the best
Porcupine>Heaven Up Here>Crocodiles
though, just barely. ^dem are some AWESOME records.
And while on the previous subject of goth:
The Cure are a likely candidate:
Faith>17Sec>Boys ...although dem again are some awesome records.
Kaleidoscope>>Join Hands>The Scream
though, no, actually, the The Scream is better than Join Hands.
TV on the Radio
though, it should be noted aforementioned bands kinda fell off a bit.
Any ole body:
Know who made the greatest gradual improvement over time?
Ans: Flaming Lips
True Fact. 15 years after their debut mediocre punk record to the Soft Bulletin. Amazing.
I suppose you could make a case for bands like Smashing Pumpkins and The White Stripes. Maybe Spoon and the Walkmen.
But I'm too tired to put in the proper analysis of it all tonight. G'night.
I would respectfully disagree that TVOTR:
Desperate Youth < Cookie Mountain > Dear Science >
and Flaming Lips:
Hit to Death < Transmissions > Clouds Taste Metallic > All the later sort of whimsified stuff
And no, no way Siamese Dream is a lesser album than Mellon Collie.
I guess you're counting from the first LP, because they never topped the Young Liars EP. but that suggests Dear Science is better than Cookie Mountain, which is madness.
The Flips...Hit to Death in the Future Head details that one; second only to TSB.
The Walkmen, definitely not. I love Everyone Who Pretended... but yeah, Bows + Arrows ramped things up considerably. A Hundred Miles Off is their only mediocre effort, though, so that one doesn't work out.
might have a point about Spoon, though.
THB > Clouds Taste > Transmissions, there's a run for the Flips.
Dear Science is easily better than Return to Cookie Mountain. EASILY. And the latter is an excellent album to begin with, but it certainly has its faults. And you will deal.
I think Crocodiles is better than Heaven Up Here, but the first four Bunnymen records are all so good that it's hard to see them as an example of the kind of progression we're looking for - they are more an example of a different kind of (equally rare) phenomena - high quality of debut maintained over several albums that follow.
...Almost Killed Me, Seperation Sunday, Boys and Girls in America.
I didn't think this trajectory would continue. I was right.
Is much better than their other records.
Shocking that you'd think otherwise.
I agree with the sentiment though
the thread asks for bands with at least 3 albums where each one is better than the last, not bands that have 3 albums in a row where each one gets better, then other albums elsewhere
it's a bit ambiguous. so i'm going to retract my complaint
I've started listening to Daisy again 'cos of the upcoming show and it's a lot better than I gave it credit for.
I loved it at the time and overdid it a touch. But as you I've come back to it ahead of the shows and it is very strong still.
I initially didn't give it enough time.
OK Computer > The Bends > Pablo Honey
I thought the point was to identify bands where they get better with each album across their whole discography. If it's just three albums in a row, then that opens up a much bigger set of candidates
but I decided to follow oceanRain's lead.
I fucked that up *shrugs*
(not Imaginary Country, and certainly not suggesting that Rave(n)death - ho ho - tops them both?)
I'd controversially say the reverse is true. Possibly. Smother is the weakest as far as I'm concerned anyway.
High Violet < Boxer < Alligator
Radiohead do in my opinion fit this thread too:
Kid A < Ok Computer < The Bends
I'd argue Eels do it:
Blinking Lights < Shootenanny < Souljacker
Boo Radleys did it:
C'Mon Kids < Wake Up Boo < Giant Steps
REM have arguably followed this pattern more than once, though I think few would be able to reach consensus on when. But for me:
Up < New Adventures < Automatic
But on the whole it's rare for me to like band where they carry off an ever increasing quality level for 3 albums.
as Souljacker is easily one of the best.
And my fave Boo Radleys is Kingsize you could make that four in a row for me!
And the National is clearly controversial, but you might just be right...
Having declined (slightly in The National's case and strikingly in The Boo Radley's) from peaks on Alligator and Giant Steps. Aren't we looking for bands were each album is better than the one released before it?
Sure it's a great album, but Automatic is something else
White Stripes records, all brilliant, somehow improving on one another.
But it stops there. As good as Elephant and everything after remain, none are better than those first three.
low (first three, and next three so it DOUBLE WORKS)
no way Trust > TWLitF!
let it bleed, sticky fingers, exile....
far better than Sticky Fingers, for me.
disagree with you more on that point. personally, i can't stand the single version of that song (not that i'm a particular fan of the LP version either). i've never been keen on the Stones when they bring their country pastiche to the fore, and that single version is the very epitome of that sound for me, with its horrible barroom backing-band hodgepodge. horrible.
Im pretty up on my Stones, but thanks for your condescending reply. For these ears, HTW is bordline parody, something which the Stones certainly weren't back then (even if they might be now).
5D, younger than yesterday, notorious byrd bros.
UR DOIN IT WORNG
I tend to get very attached to the first album I hear by anyone, meaning any subsequent ones never manage to live up to the first's giddying highs. Sigh.
and only their second.
I feel on The Warning they're not so confident and feel like they can't create great electropop + emote at the same time so mask it with a quirky hangover from the first album. By One Life Stand they're at the peak of their game and are happy to create -beautiful- music that transcends perceived coolness. + it doesn't contain Over & Over.
over + over is awful
Hot Chip are far too consistent for this thread. Coming On Strong is brilliant, every bit as good as what followed.
they started off good, got even better.
They've improved on record and as a live act over the course of the 3 albums.
but then, that would be somewhat mitigated by my point above.
Wildbirds & Peacedrums
and maybe Dismemberment Plan - although there is barely a hairs width between change and emergency and i.
13 Songs - Repeater - Steady Diet of Nothing
I would argue Fugazi got better with every record, certainly the last three is a steady incline, but overall I'd be tempted to put Repeater and In on the Kill Take above Steady Diet and Red medicine
Culminating in Drums not Dead?
Louder than Love
Shame about down on the upside
I can barely think of any that hold strictly to this pattern. GY!BE probably the best shout, but that's a fairly unconventional opinion - I'll always maintain Yanqui UXO is their masterpiece though.
discographies or not. The OP wasn't clear.
that's not my point though is it?
I meant the entire discography where the artist has released at least 3 albums.
So St Vincent, Beach House and Yeah Yeah Yeahs would all be good shouts.
Just (and for me only possibly):
I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One > Electr-o-Pura > Painful
(painful being a clear third for me, and their later run not being as strong as their mid album run which followed an early period of finding their feet).
Pretty Hate Machine < Broken (not counting Fixed, and counting Broken as a mini-album) < The Downward Spiral...
I'd actually say you can make a pretty good case for Pretty Hate Machine < Downward Spiral < The Fragile
A lot of people might disagree with the fragile but its easliy one of my all time favourites
Aquemini > ATLiens > Southernplayalistic
Kept getting better and better until Daydream Nation, then it has been hit and miss at points.
they peaked with Sister... (not to diss Daydream Nation in any way though).
Queen Is Dead > Meat is Murder > The Smiths
(not including compilations)
Does it count if the band do a run of great records followed by a load of shite?
Domestiques > Peloton > Great Eastern.
Great Eastern is a perfect record, it wouldnt have been made if they hadnt expanded their sound from the short sharp pop of Domestiques when they made Peloton though. They didnt even stop there.. Hate and Universal Audio didnt improve the sound or anything, but neither is a bad record.
... but for me Primary Colours is their best.
But the newness of Skying is winning at the moment
...if this was flipped on it's head and you looked for diminishing returns there would be plenty more candidates.
Best two shouts I can think of have already been mentioned - Wild Beasts and Metronomy. Yeah Yeah Yeahs I'm not sure - think the order of those three just depends on the day of the week for me.
false priest > skeletal lamping > hissing fauna... > the sunlandic twins > satanic panic...
basically whichever album is their newest is the best.
Coquelicot: Asleep In The Poppies etc is better than Aldhils Arboreteum
hissing fauna is far far far superior, at least
out of those
The Black Keys:
Rubber Factory > Thickfreakness > The Big Come Up
Otis Blue > ...Sings Soul Ballads > Pain In My Heart
QOTSA (maybe a bit controversial):
Songs For The Deaf > Rated R > s/t
You could argue the case of his complete solo (non-posthumous) discography following that trend. It's a close call between The Soul album and Otis Blue and I'd say that Dictionary Of Soul betters them both (just about).
but too much filler. Rated R is perfect
Leaders of the Free World > Cast of Thousands > Asleep in the back? No, that doesn't really work.
Lisbon > You and Me > Pussy Cats?
Surely it's unfair to say it's got to be over the whole discography, cos that basically means the Beatles don't count, just because their last album was Let It Be.
as their best records were released in the middle of their career (Rubber Soul, Revolver). Only a fool would think 'Yellow Submarine' is better than those two, and don't get me started on 'Sgt Pepper'.
In reality it is difficult for any band who have released more than 4 or 5 albums to meet the criteria. How could you keep getting consistently better over such a long period? How good would your last album have to be? How bad would your first one have to be? If you started out so bad how come you were allowed to keep making records for so long?
maybe someone always knew what they had in them.
that it doesn't really work as an album. The two halves just seem very divergent. Better as 2 EPs by my reckoning. Still, got all their best songs on though.
Fugitive Motel and Grace Under Pressure, it cannot be right to say that LOFW contains all their best songs.
I do kinda like the upbeat downbeat way it works, it gives it a bit of a narrative. Possibly Asleep in the Back is the most consistent elbow album, though...
What I was saying about the Beatles was exactly what you're saying, not sure how you've missed that...
Amplifier -> The Insider -> The Octopus
But the 2nd doesn't really pip the debut. It's almost as good as, maybe even equal to, but I wouldn't say better.
The stand out moments truly are breathtaking. But as a whole, I think Portishead is a smidge better. And Third trumps them both somewhat miraculously.
NEW ALBUM GUYS?!?
then Portishead will be sitting on 4 for 4.
Radiohead obvs too. And Roots Manuva.
I'd definitely go Vespertine > Homogenic > Post
What about Joanna Newsom? I probably couldn't put those three in order, but goddammit, someone MUST be able to!
Some goes for pre-Puzzle-Biffy, but for me it's:
Infinity Land > Vertigo of Bliss > Blackened Sky
...which is why Puzzle felt like such a crushing backwards step.
Must remember to Ctrl+F.
Great album mind
then Guerilla --> Mwng --> Rings around the World *could* be called a step-by-step improvement, except that Mwng is probably better than either of the other two? Except Rings around the World came out ON DVD!!
First 3 electrelane records!
trying to sneak Belle and Sebastian in the back door.
as implying successive
p.s. Can Sean please bring back their board?
please stop getting this thread wrong. the OP has already clarified he means entire discographies. a 3-album run of improvement is fucking piss-easy to find, much more interesting are claims that an entire discography improved. you're all making this thread boring. cheers
they really did get the thread wrong. I was wondering how this managed to break 100 replies
as a handy pointer
oceanRain's gigantic pile of missing the point ruined the whole thread
I've been doing it wrong. Soz.
First post is well ambiguous though, and the clarification ain't much better... I move for a new and pure thread!
I don't think I could be more clear! As another attempt at this, I want to know examples of an artist/band that has consistently released good albums and has improved on every release. The only other rule is that they've released at least 3 albums. Is that clear now <forms pose like Jet Set Willy's Wife>
So theres no need to get all that sand up in your vagina.
...more interesting than the OP.
You can take the piss but you can never take our freedom!!!
1. The debut which is 100% fantastic songs and sounds, yet lacked the direction of the later records
2. The barely-disguised-politically-motivated behemoth, my CD of which was played to the point of data corruption by 2005
3. The greatest album of the 21st century.
...I never gave Backlash Cop a chance. Is it time to finally embrace the funk?
It's the grooviest rock record ever. I love the lyrics - so many quotable one-liners, so many “cultural references” but then Andrew is also telling us stories, and he could barely have picked more interesting subjects to write about.. and the instrumentation, everyone's on top form good god I've never heard so many class riffs in one album... and fucking loads of COWBELL :D
I'm equally excited for and dreading the fourth album, I have no idea what they will pull out of the hat this time
okay, that's enough drowsy nattering, listen to the damn thing :D
You're my new favourite user.
Don't try and argue with me.
LCD Soundsystem > Sound of Silver > This Is Happening
Really depends what mood you're in though, all those albums are almost equally fantastic.
Sound of Silver has to be their best surely
but arguing which album is better with them is pretty pointless since they all have almost identical aesthetics when you think about it. the craftsmanship is equal in all three
Tri Repetae > Amber > Incunabula
All 3 are fantastic records though.
Many would disagree, but:
Let Love In < Murder Ballads < The Boatman's Call
since I would say Let Love In is the best Bad Seeds album of them all.
Red Heaven < University < Limbo
yeah yeah yeah yeahs
...every album better than that which preceded it IF you ignore Black Love.
*But, Black Love still has some decent songs on it
**The songs on it were based on an idea for a soundtrack to a film that never got made
And I started with Black Love, I'm doin it rong, aren't I?
How have I not heard this record!
You really get a sense of the grip that heroin had on Greg Dulli at that point.
bit of a contrast to Gentlemen. It's gloriously sleazy.
But Gentlemen needed another spin. I'll try and tear myself away from it, but I think it'll soundtrack my journey home tonight too.
After these two records do I go early and work through? Or what?
IMO, Congregation is the next best.
I need to buy my ticket for ATP at Ally Pally now, Can;t miss this one methinks.
just bought a ticket. Archers of Loaf too, amazing...cannot wait.
Glad we could help each other
not sure Potemkin City Limits is better than Today's Empires...
Stephen Malkmus > Pig Lib > Face the Truth
And while we're at it....
Talking Book > Innervisions > Fulfillingness' First Finale
A very solid career progression.
More please Tool, more like Lateralus
10,000 was horrible! Fingers crossed, I heard rumours they were writing again in fact...
Controversially I REALLY like "The Sebadoh", and is the one I listen to most, and find the lo-fi-ness of the early stuff a bit wearing now, so it works for me.
If Disco Volante didn't have Carry Stress In The Jaw, Ma Meeshka Mow Skwoz, Merry Go Bye Bye or Desert Search For Techno Allah on it, then...
Which albums do ya mean?
Drums and Wires < Black Sea < English Settlement
'too much filler' naysayers be damned
Talk Talk - The Colour Of Spring < Spirit Of Eden < Laughing Stock
I thought I was going mad!! Thank you for restoring my faith in my own linguistic abilities.
Ultimate Alternative Wavers < There Is Nothing Wrong With Love < Perfect From Now On
By which point they'd hit perfection so there was only really one direction to go (though Keep It Like A Secret is awesome too).
Across 7 albums, each an improvement.
Incunabula < Amber < Tri Repetae