so i'm getting a bit bored with music.
and i want something way the fuck OUT THERE to slap me out of my disenchantment.
already a massive fan of tom waits (all periods included). i understand captain beefheart is one to explore once you dig the waits, what would you say?
i suppose i'm looking for some crazy, fucked up shit from all genres (EXCEPT metal), so feel free to throw me any ideas, no matter how bonkers you think they might be. i'd be especially interested in exploring alternative hip hop (already know and love dalek, clouddead, but would love something in a similar vein. or in a different vein, whatever!), house, jungle, tropicalia, ambient, jazz (especially jazz), spacey, weird chillout stuff, and whatever else you'd like to suggest.
avant garde is the watchword, i suppose, but as long as it's tuneful (or at least good) i don't care.
back to jazz: sun ra, miles davis, john coltrane...i like what i've heard, but you can't just dive in, can you? you have to ease yourself into it. any jazz specialists on DiS?
so yeah, i would be very thankful if you guys could help me out :)
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How's about.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htl3XWUhUOM
i know it's not what you requested
but this should regain your trust in music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt44GEvNatc
Have you heard the Death Grips album?
http://thirdworlds.net/exmilitary.php
Might be your kind of thing. I've seen a couple of people compare it to Dalek.
Sorry didn't check the link in the first post and totally ignored your jazz request...
Have you tried Headhunters by Herbie Hancock? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSRir3n1ifg
My favourite Sun Ra album is probably Lanquidity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf-OxkoTNp4
And you can't go wrong with In A Silent Way by Miles Davishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lAYwYtvoX8&feature=related
kool aid (global tyranny)
came out at xmas on agitated records
review: http://boomkat.com/vinyl/478184-koolaid-global-tyranny-koolaid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn84D5UFlFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfrF0eUqKVg&feature=related
you're welcome
^really liking this
those Beatles puppets
are not helping my insomnia
And for weird spacey chill-out stuff try Date Palms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-vWnrBgfzw
Probably my favourite release of last year.
Things you might have missed?
http://youtu.be/kRMOtVSZaX0 (Fuck n Rad)(guy from die antwoord)
http://youtu.be/Zi0DKGfXTDU (Main Attrakzionz) (been playing this ALL day, really love it.Hip-hop with lovely production)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ6b5ghZZN0( black moth super rainbow)(weird electronic music with computer vocals)
Considering I have a degree studying it
I guess I'm the closest to a jazz expert on here.
This is a band I discovered recently called Oriole led by a guitarist called Jonny Phillips (whos a total dude) - its got a lot of influences from jazz-fusion, but its not a stereotype, and Seb Rochford is on drums as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hd7f_j_TtA
very cool
dig into the Def Jux catalogue
Cage, El-P, Aesop Rock, Cannibal Ox, Rob Sonic - loads of really grimy and dark hip hop
Pat Matheny with Jaco is great Jazz-Fusion
I haven't listened to much fusion myself but the whole album is good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG8IE14hi8M
here
Van Der Graaf Generator.
This is officially the best thing in music ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAO7uDH0M8
And there's a live video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzoaWrRYg98
VdGG weren't '70's prog'
They were visionary sci-fi punk. And they'll tear anyone's face off. Especially Phil Collins'.
unironically ^this
Get Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda
that'll sort you out with everything!
Like Tom Waits? I recommend Man Man, like Tom Waits at a carnival
Six Demon Bag is my personal fav album
http://open.spotify.com/album/1lbahshROJdjVu7KCxDqvP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW3TMvq-nc8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVICxlBY8o&feature=related
below is some jazzy but still tuneful stuff
fretty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij4RFypKW_M
tuney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzBlQAqILK0
noisy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk9wwlzuwJE
tappy (clean, live):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjDiRal_Baw
my favourite band...y:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ir8Nc9MKg
Just listen to Confield ffs
Or if you want the Confield experience in 9 minutes, mainline this shit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qkMYxt4XYs
(I'm just warming up)
(that's Autechre - Cap.IV btw)
good shout
10 albums and countless eps for you to get into. gotta be OUT THERE enough for ya!
Came here to say the same thing
am devouring the EP boxset at the mo (Christmas present action)
Peaking Lights - 936
i'm just discovering this. really great. its got like a jazzy ambient psychedelic thing going on. i think.
First half of the album is great but it drags at the back something rotten.
above and beyond guys.
thanks a lot. all of this is very intriguing.
The Caretaker - An Empty Bliss Beyond this World
completely floored me this year. (http://soundcloud.com/alteredzones/sets/the-caretaker-an-empty-bliss/)
Also, Shabazz Palaces are great kind of leftfield hip-hop and if you want spacey psych kind of stuff look no further than Sun Araw; basically Peaking Lights' weirder moments stretched out and distended and totally fucking awesome.
So awesome I abandon conventional grammar when describing it.
:D
Obligatory 'this is the greatest shit ever, ever, ever'
Yeah I mention them roughly once every two months but they DESERVE it for fucking out loud
Cardiacs - As Cold As Can Be In An English Sea (Tim Smith wrote this when he was A TEENAGER):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5QYijFfOaQ
Cardiacs - Dirty Boy (Tim Smith wrote this when he was POSSESSED BY ANGELS):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-dd4fMUhAY
Spratleys Japs - Fanny (Tim Smith wrote this when he was FUCKING A WOOD-NYMPH):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN-O2FReqyQ
Not the most out-there music in the world, but I can't show you lovelier (or more thrilling)
This band will consume your life. Amazing
OK and now for something way way way the fuck out there
It's about space. Vast, lonely space. Listen to it alone in the dark. Don't come crying.
Murcof - Oort:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KUqCvLhI_M
fuck yes!
This is bloody good
I had my speakers turned up loud, the bit around 3:15 made me shit myself
Thank you Mr Coil
Don't thank me
Thank *the cosmos*
Speaking of which, here's the other 24-carat stunner on that album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zct3dzgrB5I
(warning: contains God)
...and now for the piece de la resistance
Thighpaulsandra has played keys in Spiritualized. He's also made some of the most genuinely startling pan-genre symphonies to weirdness the world is yet to see. This is one of the best. Highly recommended for anyone who digs progressive industrial soundscapes with processed vocals (by Jhonn Balance).
Thighpaulsandra - Optical Black:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiCjEY6jKuU
Bop out to some bizzare Ariel Pink / John Maus oddity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB-o8W2nl8
Good starting place for old school jazz
Can't really go wrong with Miles and Coltrane, of course, but try these first: Coltrane - Blue Train or Lush Life. Miles - Kind of Blue (duh, but still awesome), Round About Midnight, or '58 Sessions. Then try Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus and Thelonius Monk - Monk's Music. For that last one, put on track #6 Epistrophy and check out the drum solo by Art Blakey. It will blow your hair back, but still the most soulful and tuneful drumming you will ever hear. These are just some of my favs - enjoy! Oh and then if you want some shit that's way out there (like you asked for) dig into Mile's Bitches Brew.
Angil and the Hiddentracks cover most of them at once
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d02IXHjS_78
Go back to some important sources that you're likely to have missed
Early Residents
Throbbing Gristle & 70s Industrial Records alumni
:zoviet-france: from 1984 to 1989
Nurse With Wound from Homotopy To Marie (1982) to Thunder Perfect Mind (1992)
Get that lot under your belt & you should have your synapses thoroughly rearranged
for hip hop, try New Kingdom
Heavy Load (their first) is a bit lighter but great gruff rapping, and Paradise Don't Come Cheap (their second) is a heavy psychedelic swirling guitary mess of an album - in a good way. Don't know anything else quite like them.
I'm confused as to exactly what you're complaining about?
Do you think maybe you should have a little lie down?
AND ALSO TRY...
for hip hop as well as New Kingdom, Cannibal Ox and Anti-Pop Consortium, 13 & God
for other stuff:
Techno Animal - Re Entry
Notwist (Shrink is most obviously jazz-y one to my ears)
Demdike Stare
FSOL - Dead Cities and ISDN
Porter Ricks
Coil
Throbbing Gristle (as the man says above)
Scorn
Main
ETC
Scorn's latest effort is awesome!!
Can't fault Techno Animal's Brotherhood of the Bomb either.
Good point - I was thinking of Re-Entry for the great ambient action
but Brotherhood of the Bomb fits the alternative hip hop request (and feat at least one of New Kingdom I believe)
And then you'd also need to add Ice's Bad Blood (which is the same people as Techno Animal at that point I think)
It's not Scorn's latest release - it's its last, RIP
Kreng - Necrotic Doon Jazz
the Minutemen are pretty avant. and great tunes.
Suicide...although you won;t sleep..and they have tunes...
THE GEROGERIGEGEGE
if you REALLY are bored of music
"Fuck compose, Fuck melody, Dedicated to no one, Thanks to no one, ART IS OVER".
-Juntaro Yamanouchi
Yellow Trash Bazooka was one of the more enjoyable Youtube discoveries
many of their records are much better to read about than listen to :)
http://www.artnotart.com/gero/ - not been updated since 2003 but then neither have The Gerogerigegege :(
Ultimate ATP coup:
FIND JUNTARO and coax him out of whatever mental asylum/AIDs clinic/grave/normal salaryman job/gay club he might be in, find some old or new GERO [x] and REFORM!
on a tangentially related note listen to jaap blonk reciting the ursonate
http://vimeo.com/2847570
INCAPACITANTS
GREATEST HARSH NOISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
made by two middle aged Japanese businessmen
Would highly recommend J Dilla/Jay Dee
based on your hip hop preferences. Start with Donuts IMO.
If you're into that but want something more recent, Flying Lotus.
Classic Warp Records back catalog of things like Autechre, Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin, LFO will keep you occupied for a very long time indeed
Pharoah Sanders - thembi
Pharoah Sanders - thembi
Also, Pharoah Sanders - Karma
+ Black Unity, Elevation, Tauhid, Pharoah's First...
Can - Tago Mago, Soon Over Babalums
The Necks - Drive By, Chemist, Sex
Bardo Pond - S/T, On The Ellipse
Tangerine Dream - Rubycon
A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
Autechre - Amber, Tri Repetae
Dadawah - Peace and Love
Gas - Nah und Fern
Harmonia - Musik Von Harmonia
Meat Beat Manifesto - Actual Sounds and Voices
Loop - Heaven`s End
AR Kane - 69, i
Constance Demby - Novus Magnificat
Michael Hoenig - Departure From The Northern Wasteland
Steve Roach - Structures From Silence, Dynamic Stillness, Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces
Jah Wobble & Bill Laswell - Radioaxiom: A Dub Transmission
Monolake - Gravity, Silence
Talk Talk - Spirit Eden
The Black Dog - Bytes
Faust - So Far
Amon Duul II - Yeti
SubtractiveLAD - Kindred
Bark Psychosis - Codename:Dustsucker
Magical, Beautiful - Here Come The Wild Waves
Plastikman - Consumed
Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star
Relay - Still Point Of Turning
Klaus Schulze - Moondawn
Seefeel - Quique
The Third Eye - You Guys Kill Me
Coil - Love`s Secret Domain
Vibracathedral Orchestra - Wisdom Thunderbolt
U-Ziq - Tango n Vectif
you are such a hateful prick.
sincerely. have you ever had a day when you haven't tried to make someone else feel like shit because you're afflicted with a cuntish toryboy self-loathing?
Some awesome picks in that list
Especially Faust.
Back to the Jazz, maybe try some early stuff like Charlie Parker perhaps? Plus Herbie Hancock if noboby has mentioned him already..
Piss off
Why it`s useless? It`s a list of quality music and that`s never useless.
Agreed
There is some great stuff on that list which meets the original posters brief. Not sure where Masculinity is coming from.
Maybe he is obverse to lists fullstop.
list threads are usually useless to be fair, or at least end up so
because 'recommend me some [X]' inevitably ends up as 'everyone list every single [x] you have heard of without comment and oh here's some [y] too let's have an argument about whether it's [x] or not!'
If you don't know/have them already
Try the Olivia Tremor Control's two recently remastered albums.
Try some Cluster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtgqnJ3GU-I
(from the effing incredible album Zuckerzeit)
or some very early Kraftwerk
Tanzmusic- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M5sV-IWQlE
Maybe give the new Kayo Dot album a listen?
http://kayodot.bandcamp.com/
I wouldn't class it strictly as metal, although it is heavy in places and I wouldn't class it as jazz, although the saxophone is pushed to the front. I'm not really sure how to describe it really, but if odd timings, Jeff Buckley-esque tinged vocals, swinging saxophone and lots of atmosphere are your thing, give it a listen. It was mostly recorded live too I think.
SO MUCH THIS
My favourite KD album (and the one I'd say is furthest-out) is Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue but that's not a popular opinion. Form your own by hearing them ALL! Except Blue Lambency Downward, that one ain't so hot.
The last Maudlin Of The Well album, Part The Second, is available for free online download. It's as good as any KD, and it's effectively the same band. Get hold and feast:
http://maudlinofthewell.net/downloads.html
DISCLAIMER, though:
this stuff is pretty unambiguously metal, at least 40-50% of the time
Blue Lambency Downward
is an odd beast. It wasn't really what I wanted to hear from them as a band. But I kind of appreciate it a lot more now having given it time to ferment. While not my favourite album of theirs, I like the idea of trying to create a sense of climax but trying to sidestep the usual use of volume, speed or layering (not that these are bad things though).
^This to all that
Listen to BLD anyway, they pretty much lost the entire band before this apart from the mastermind Toby Driver and the violin player, which is why it sounds so different to what came before. since you claim to be metal-averse this could be right up your street
BLD does have The Awkward Windwheel
which packs all the power of a KD epic into 3 minutes
I don't really like the rest so much though - it feels like TD and his ladyfriend are in the process of working out how to turn KD into a two-piece-with-session-musicians act and getting the balance slightly wrong (it's got too many mainstream-ish tropes, and too much ambience to really succeed on its terms)
Coyote and Stained Glass (don't freaking forget Stained Glass) get it bang on though!
Led Bib, The Locust, Colin Stetson, Jenny Hval, The Books
All different, but I find them all to be a bit OUT THERE and very good too.
Fire! With Jim O'Rourke - Unreleased?
Fairly out there, fairly (free) jazzy, fairly noisy, and very rhythmic! And if you like this, saxophonist Mats Gustaffson produced a huge amount of out there music in various groups, particularly The Thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae3mwKgT2CQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLaaC8uJRK0&feature=related
peter brotzmann - machine gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWiO5SFoh8g
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
http://bit.ly/XQPbH
Mix Mup & Kassem Mosse - The Woods
http://soundcloud.com/shiva-gosvernor/the-woods
Creepy mixtape thing, skewed house music meets horror films.
overwhelming!
this should keep me going for a fair while. all good stuff so far, no real objections. hopefully others will find this thread and think the same.
SHIZUO
And his sideproject GIVE UP - I really with Fuckstep 98 was a genre and not a single EP. :(
One of the most interesting/actually good artists on Digital Hardcore Recordings. RIP. ;__;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiK0ZtZ169c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6868DLvg5I
Give Up (NSFW audio) - http://youtu.be/5oPsJrbnVpc
re: especially jazz - BORBATOMAGUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFvPZUOnTD0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFfprvRwkUU
http://www.borbetomagus.com/
My thinly-veiled and I have been discussing Christian fundamentalist apocalypticism
This feels right.
If you want some REAL christian noise try Clang Quartet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp7oWlUXJlQ
http://www.silbermedia.com/clangquartet/
That's a really cool exposition
Like the guy already
pretty much the nicest guy in noise by all accounts, you'd be hard pressed to find a bad word about him from even the most
atheist/satanist/nihilist/whatever gymme kvlt noise dudes
Definitely give Beefheart a try -
Probably want to start with Trout Mask Replica or Lick My Decals Off, Baby. Safe As Milk is pretty straight but still great, likewise Clear Spot, Strictly Personal and Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller). Read up on him a bit (you're bored of music right? - there's a pretty good biography by Mike Barnes that's worth a read) and you'll figure out what appeals to you and what doesn't...
Fuck's sake
that^ was meant to be way up there^. Cock.
Bleach Cake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W81ToKk1dwQ
skrillex lol
no seriously, i think someone mentioned bardo pond earlier, theyre kind of nuts. i'm sure i have a playlist of cool stuff like this so let me dig it out!
i can't recommend Moondog enough though. absolutely insane composer.
Don Cherry
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Don+Cherry
yes mate! (also we share a birthday, i'm quite proud of that fact)
not his out-there playing but Brown Rice is great.
anything up to 'old & new dreams' basically, especially 'Where is Brooklyn', Human Music, Symphony for Improvisers, Complete Communion, Eternal Rhythm, Togethernes,
I really like 'Orient'
and the cover has a massive fucking egg on the front
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_osaKxjJ33dE/S-cGfaa9FPI/AAAAAAAAAoI/wE8x0N59kMQ/s400/don_fruit.jpg
Tri Angle Records
You should really check out this label if you haven't already. Really interesting new stuff coming out, Clams Casino, Balam Acab, Holy Other, How To Dress Well etc.
Favorite label of the year for me.
Also have a listen to Deptford Goth and Forest Swords which are of a similar style.
http://tri-anglerecords.com/
All this music makes me bored.
hella
crime in choir
don caballero
deaf center
deerhoof
three trapped tigers
swans
sleigh bells
sleepytime gorrilla museum
skull defekts
and as far as jazz is concerned anything by ravi coltrane and trio of doom.
Definitely Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
with the caveat that they're unambiguously metal about 20-30% of the time
Zechs Marquise are pretty ace
essentially progressive rock with influences from latin/jazz and space rock.
that sounds like the mars volta tbh
I think they share members,
probably has at least one member of the Rodriguez-Lopez family. This band/TMV/Rodriguez-Lopez Band are kind of interchangable.
True
Zechs Marquise have three members of the Rodriguez Lopez family and there are some similarities but, with TMV covering such a wide spectrum of sound throughout their career that could also apply to quite a few bands in the prog-rock genre.
That said 'Getting Paid' has enough about it to warrant further investigation, plus in my opinion it's much funkier than anything TMV recorded, honest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jdwbkqm88U
Nooumena
French dark jazzy prog rock. Listen free here
http://nooumena.bandcamp.com/album/argument-with-eagerness
oops that sounds like JAG. listen to it anyway
I'd dig this shit right?
Tell me how much.
You'll love it! (maybe?)
One day I was a bit drunk and I wrote this:
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4309496
long and embarassingly rambling offering on the album. It took me like half an hour and the only reply I got was from the record label YOU BASTARDS.
It was definitely THE most promising debut I heard in 2011, a highlight of the year. I don't realy know what else to say I'm not really good with hyperbole but it's a compelling headphones/lights off trip
OK, tomorrow I'll give it a proper spin
Sounds like my bag all right. Thanks!
This was a nice listen
Didn't blow my mind but some really lovely moments. Think the third track was the standout. Great approach to rhythm throughout, but lacks the songwriting punch, or its converse, the hypnotic focus, that would push it into my highest echelons. Well worth listening to though, and I'll probably give it another go at some point. As 2011 debuts go I can't think of a superior.