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I'd rather listen to 2 Unlimited than Muse.
I say that with no sense of irony whatsoever.
be anything other than ironic?
And postmodern is a word that is soooo Franz Ferdinand and early 2004
The Man. The big cheeses. The tastemakers of popular culture.
The Jews who run the BBC.. just kidding.
over many artists who were on that alt-country bandwagon in the 90s (e.g. The Jayhawks).
Which isn't to say I like The Eagles all that much.
Is this the sort of thing you're after?
and that's a shitty line alright.
But there's something about those perfect harmonies, the casual tight/looseness of the way they play, plus the fact that today they still sound weirdly as perfect as they did in 1973, that makes them a cut above the usual run of greying heritage rock behemoths.
I guess you have to like country music first of all. If you can't dig Hank Williams/Gram Parsons/etc then there's no way I'm going to convince you that The Eagles deserve respect, especially as they're a sort of byword for everything that sucks about bloated industry rock & roll.
But IMO they deserve their place in the canon.
and sorry if I patronised you re country music... sounds like you're more into it than I am. Incidentally I totally agree about Gram Parsons (overrated), but not about Hank Williams Snr whom I worship and adore (but "cajun"? huh??). The hillbilly thing doesn't bother me, in fact I really like a lot of bluegrass as long as it's recorded on a dictaphone back in 1930 or thereabouts. Got some old Carter Family recordings that make my spine tingle.
Anyway - I'm not saying The Eagles were "alt", just that if I'm going to go down the country-rock road, I'd rather go down it with the Eagles than with some hairy-chested self-consciously A-MURRRRRR-I-KAN tryhard like Jay Farrar or Son Volt.
To tell the truth I hadn't given the Eagles a thought for years until someone sent me a YouTube link of them playing live in 2009, and I was amazed (as I said) at how perfectly they still sang & played, they're just a drop-dead incredible band. But that said, I don't particularly care if I never hear them again.
Conway Twitty, Faron Young - yeah. Also like Porter Wagoner. And George Strait.
I prefer The Carpenters to Florence & The Machine
I'm pretty sure that The Carpenters are generally accepted as ironic-cool, while Florence & the Machine's industry success is fast catapulting them into lameness.
So I dunno. Gay thread.
when the tribuite album came out including a Sonic Youth cover.
Who knows, 20 years hence maybe Flo and the boys will have gone through the cool-daggy-cool cycle themselves?
And surely on DiS Muse fandom is more embarrassing than enjoying 2 Unlimited.
You know not whereof you speak
I mean, not ideal or anything, but choking on your own vomit isn't great either, although decidedly more rock 'n' roll.
Substance abuse is a hideous lengthy suicide sometimes taking years before (some vital organ or another, what am I a doctor?) packs it in and your heart stops ... Judy Garland had been in psychiatric care, her family was begging her to stop using pills, she had an army of doctors and loads of supporters but she just couldn't do that one little thing - KICK it. All she had to do was kick it but she couldn't.
Probably works better with James Freud, but not sure how au fait your are with the work of Australian 1980s band The Models.
Not, I hasten to add, that I particularly care about or wish to judge substance abusers. Just don't find them more or less tragic than anorexics. Probably very similar psychological problems in a fair proportion of each category.
Closest I think to the original intention of the thread (far better than the 2 Unlimited vs Muse example in the OP).
That's pretty embarrassing. Mind I really can't stand The Kills, a statement that's backed up by their awful Glastonbury performance.
but that's about as much praise as I'm prepared to give them
Yeah a lot of people feel that way about them, including me sometimes. I can never listen to them for more than about 3 or 4 songs at a time, after that they just start to grate. Still, rather 3 or 4 songs of C,S & N than anything by The Kills.
Like today, for example.
say Heaven 17 are "embarrassing?"
at the moment, it's all a bit shit.
Rage against the machine anyday.
</3 Throbbing Gristle
fairness, I'd rather listen to Vampire Weekend than most music, but you know...
I'd rather listen to Dashboard Confessional than St Vincent AND PJ Harvey.
not even joking...
without a doubt
Personally: Go West > Wu Lyf
I'd rather listen to Dire Straits than Bob Dylan
is an under-appreciated classic, tarnished in the memory by later crimes involving synthesisers, headbands and, worst of all, Sting.
to anything recorded by Los Cunting Campesinos
are good, particularly 'Making Movies'
but they do seem to get unfairly maligned. I think the reason I love the eponymous first album so much is the production, that laid-back, jazz-inflected rhythm section and Knopfler's wiry, resonant guitar tone, such a great sound. None of their subsequent records captured them in the same way. Great lyrics in places as well, particularly Lions.
In fact, Electric Six >>> everyone.
And also, anyone >>> The National.
but that I can take. I just love moby
worst thread ever
but going by people's measures of cool, I'll add that I prefer Foo Fighters to Nirvana.
also i think it's generally accepted, even in indie circles, that three cheers is a legit good album
(i <3 TBP though)
A lot of my friends' primary taste in music is indie, and none of them think that's a good record. Although to be fair, none of them like My Chemical Romance full stop.
4 albums, all 8/10. Though actually, the black parade is pushing a nine, not much to fault with that album bar teenagers and sleep.
All my indie friends despise them. The amount of strife I got for saying that I liked them better than RHCP...
REM than The Pixies
Ben Folds than Morrissey
Death Cab than Postal Service
Green Day than The Clash
mug_mug_mug has spoken, let's pack it in everyone
'A' over most bands.
Over anything Muse have ever done, or anything Radiohead have done post Kid A.
I <3 Lake Tahoe, Summer on the Underground, Miles Away - all Bangers!
over Sonic Youth
As far as boy/girl duo's go, the under-rated, not-that-cool Joe Gideo & The Shark are way more fun than the dull leather jacket bollocks The Kills put out. Saw them in Newcastle this year at a festival this year, one of the most boring sets I've ever seen. Even Brother (on before them) at least had the decency to be properly, hilariously shit.
While we're at it, as far as the garage rock thing at the start of the decade goes, The Hives > The White Stripes and The Strokes, any time.
To Led Zeppelin.
whats the cooler band called again? Brians Jonestown Massacre?
"likes ALL KINDS of music"
Get tha fuck outta here :-P
Go cry into your empty vodka bottle, Adele fan!
Big stupid innuendo laden rawk beats listening to beach boy b-sides played backwards.
If you play their music without thinking of what they look and dress like
Kiss are awesome with the image & stage show, but strip away the visuals and their songs are paper-thin shite.
But I find them infinitely superior to any big British band since, viz Oasis, Blur, Radiohead, Coldplay, Muse. I think if you've got a rock opera made about you then you've got a fair old embarassment factor.
Hmmm, how to rank them? Well, just including the albums I've heard more than a couple of times, probably:
Independent research has proven that Sheer Heart Attack is the best
There was a period there where just about every party I went to, at some point in the night somebody put on bloody Queen's greatest hits. (Abba Gold too). We could've been listening to Cocteau Twins and Dead Can Dance all night and at half past three in the morning some bloody bogan would grab Queen's greatest hits out of his car and pop it on the stereo.
But 20 years must be some sort of statute of limitations on this thing because I find I can once again enjoy their albums.
I still skip Bohemian Rhapsody on ANATO though.
if it weren't such a lazy ride on the coattails of A Night At the Opera. I really have a problem with albums that just re-hash the winning formula of their mega-selling predecessor - I mean look at The Millionaire Waltz, so obviously a second-rate rerun of Bohemian Rhapsody it's ridiculous.
That was actually how I read it the first time.
That goes without saying.
(surely this has to be a winner)
Roy Orbison > Joy Orbison
But if you make a band name playing on words with an existing artist, you might as well pack up and go home.
Black hoodies with band logos on are coming back, I'm tellin ya.
(prepares for massive blasting)....but it's true; call it my guilty pleasure (principle)