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do you download it illegally? I do, is this wrong? Thx
If they wanted you to be able to listen to it on vinyl *and* on an mp3 player, they would've provided download codes.
So the respectful thing to do here is either to buy a copy on every format it's been released in or to carry a turntable around with you everywhere you think you might want to listen to the song.
Rather than the artist
Is it not the choice of their label? I had this issue with cassettes/tapes. I've paid for the artistic endeavour of a lot of 80's and 90's artists at least twice now....
please stop it.
I think it's a total rip-off. For example, I paid £21 for The Horrors 'Skying' and it didn't come with a download code. You're already paying premium prices for the vinyl and considering the format doesn't transfer and you're bound (if you love the record) to want to listen to it away from the comfort of your own home, it's pretty cynical not to include it.
If you release something on vinyl only then yeah, fair enough. It's clearly meant for that format or a special edition. But if you release it on multiple formats and then don't put one in a vinyl that you're already paying more for, that's just plain cheap in my eyes.
So no, I have no moral qualms illegally downloading tracks if I've already shelled out for the vinyl.
Thankfully, most forward thinking major labels I tend to buy off (4AD, Merge, Saddle Creek) do it as standard. But a few don't and I was really disappointed at XL for not doing that for Skying. Especially seeing as they did for Primary Colours...
If you are buying it on vinyl then it's probably assumed that you want the wax/enjoy listening to it on vinyl. Unless you are just buying it just to own something or because it's super limited invisible splatter etched vinyl or whatnot.
Should you get a downlaod code with a cd? What if you only have a notebook or something which doesn't have a cd drive so you can't rip cds?
and anyway, it's pretty easy to download nearly any album so do that. I feel no guilt in doing it.
I do agree that paying £21 for The Horrors wax is a total rip off mind!
But I do a lot of travelling about and I like to have something I can take with me. With regard to the notebooks, you can pay £20 for an external CD/DVD drive and just plug and play.
I appreciate it might sound a little bit "cake and eat it" but I think that considering vinyl is having a revival (arguably partly as a backlash to people who don't want to to just download digitally) then it just seems a bit churlish not to stick a free code in. It costs them nothing (do they really think people will go out and pay for the download/CD after they've bought the vinyl?) and it'll possibly encourage more folk to pay that bit extra for vinyl and boost their coffers that way.
Maybe it's just the way I think but considering 75% of the labels seem to be doing it at the moment, I'm always quite annoyed when others don't. I'd genuinely like to know the business thinking behind it.
so it's fine.
(but everyone assumes it does because of intrernets)
Actually on a technicality ripping mp3s from vinyl/CDs you've bought is *probably* illegal under UK law, but that's a relic of an old act and nobody would ever, ever, ever prosecute for it. 'Cos that'd be silly.
don't worry about the silly record.
It is effectively the same as taping a copy for yourself. Probably not legally, but morally definitely. I have everything I own on vinyl on mp3 also, as if I'd sit around ripping it all.
Although you'll make Feargal Sharkey cry
It can cost a label a fair amount to include downlaod codes with all of their vinyl releases, and i think particularly if you own the music in some format, you're entitled to it. I've downloaded music illegally that i own on cd because i didn't particularly want to take hundreds of them with me when i moved into my new house. Is it wrong to do that?
mp3s have an awful stench of the 20th century about them.
It's 4G streaming or nothing for me.
Format shifting - even for personal use - is an act of copyright infringement under current UK law. But it's a daft technicality resulting from the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act being from 1988.
All recent reviews on the topic have lead to recommendations that format shifting for personal use be legalised (it's slightly hindered by a section of the Information Society Directive from the EU) and even the BPI changed their position from "we would never actually prosecute for this" to "legalise it, this is a really daft situation to be in".
recommended making "format ahifting" an exception to copyright rules, but that still would only apply to ripping a CD/DVD onto an ipod/computer for private use. It rejected a move to a US "fair use" concept. Nothing's been enacted since then.
That playing a CD through a laptop is format shifting, as it involves it sitting in digital form on your computer for a few milliseconds.
You heard it here first.
So that wouldn't infringe copyright, even in the most technical sense.
because the CD was in my car - and I couldn't be bothered walking down three flights of stairs, faffing round with my keys, walking 40 yards to the car (in the cold) and fishing around in the glove box for it.
Is that a good enough defence?
and then sell them to musicmagpie or on ebay or whatever?
I dislike these people but I'm not sure why.