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Fairly standard list: http://www.wbez.org/blog/jim-derogatis/2011-11-20/biggest-turkeys-2011-94215
all the rest are either exactly what you'd expect from the artist regardless of your opinions on them (coldplay, art brut, gaga, adele, bjork,) or in my top ten albums of the year.
did anyone expect it to be good?!
would be pretty pleased with that.
St Vincent though? This man is clearly deaf.
how did the strokes and TVOTR albums not get a mention either
Strange Mercy is wonderful tho and the Bjork record is great too so clearly this guy is just looking for trouble.
can we give him some?
what a goon.
That I can't find...didn't include a link to a inflammatory article either.
Memory Tapes (even though its alright)
Explosions in the Sky
indeed. what happened to Jim James post-Z?
I was expecting an album closer to Z or It Still Moves, instead we got got Circuital, seems like they are stuck in the Evil Urges rut.
was a big return to form.
or that you never had high expectations?
I just think that anyone who says it's 'disappointing' clearly was hoping for a complete re-hash of 'For Emma', which is the part that baffles me. 'Bon Iver' is clearly a natural progression and a stunning album to boot.
James Blake 'blubstep' debut. Stick with producing, James, enough of the electro-singer/songwriter crap.
His argument is invalid.
I laughed milk
are you giving this idiot air time?
That guy seems to have just picked out high profile albums he didn't happen to like as turkeys as opposed to highlighting what was truly awful in 2011.
Yonkers aside, that album is a complete mess
Yonkers is fantastic and I didn't mind She, but the rest is just garbage and dissing each other.
but definitely ones I expected to be better:
not terrible, but not likely to get many more listens from me.
Not as immediate as Witching Hour, but rewarding. Perfect winter album.
so let's just call it ill-timed.
Most Disappointing: Junior Boys - It's All True
The King of Limbs. I'm sure I'll be gushing over it in about a years time, but at the moment it just feels so bland. For a musical shift in Radiohead's music style, it sounds like a pretty safe album. Nothing too rememorable. I think that's the worst thing about it. It's offensively inoffensive.
Total fucking tripe from start to finish. Massive let down.
But it's definitely a let down, and a huge drop in form.
Joker, Babybird, Junior Boys, The Fall, Zola Jesus, TVOTR, James Blake. All terrible.
but it's a dud. There's a couple of decent tracks on there but it's a bit stale on the whole and Greenway is probably the worst Fall song since Das Boat.
I still have a massive soft spot for him/them and will still buy the album but I know in my heart of hearts...
Managed to get through it once. About 1 good track and 3 OK ones.
Most disappointing by a mile.
I give Jim DeRogatis' list 0 stars.
Was really looking forward to that one - bored to tears!
Same goes for Fleet Foxes.
Three Trapped Tigers
Are you mad?
confirmed when i saw them performing it live.
So much hate for James Blake though, which just isn't fair. Appreciate what it is, dont slate it for what it isn't!
People just need to get over the fact that it's not the same as his 'dubstep' productions and ignore it if they don't like it - he's still making other types of music so there's no need for everyone to keep whining on about it.
In fact, I reckon about 95% of people who go on and on about the album probably haven't even heard Order/Pan cos they were too busy being all enraged on the internet.
just made me love Gloss Drop even more. <333333
That Three Trapped Tigers record was brilliant. Definitely agree with battles and James Blake though. With Blake basically almost all of his non- album stuff (save for the "Enough thunder EP") has been pretty amazing, but the album was a severely wallow into blubstep.
although I concur with him over the Bjork album, which does sound rather as if they were so excited by the gimmicks that came with it that they forgot to finish most of the songs.
I think that if there is a trend at all this year it may be that very few artists improved on previously great debut albums.
NOT write something? I mean there's always space on the internet so it's not like it needs filling NO MATTER WHAT...with shit like this boring reductive fucking bollocks.
I think this might be the only thing more GoodWorkVirginal than arguing about stupid fucking end-of-year lists..Like, sometimes I feel like the whole of the [indie music internet] should take about 3 weeks off...publish NOTHING...have an angry wank / learn a language or something else, then...THEN come back and think long and hard about what actually happened over the last month or so.
That way they can make sure what they pen isn't a fucking hole-in-the-air / doesn't-fucking-matter in any-meaningful-way / tastemaker-at-a-conference-wearing-a-fucking-hat-indoors / spoonfed-and spongebathed blogging bellended crushing void of irrelevance. This is worse than a fucking 8/10 Chillwave review or something.
Would read again
that just really annoys me. It's also so massively forced and very unpleasant. Even with negative reviews of an album by a band I hate, I really hate it when the writer has clearly gone into it with no intention of ever giving a fair hearing.
The Strokes- Angles- for obvious reasons.
The Antlers- Burst Apart- It had about four or five songs in it that were truely astounding, but the rest was just very mediocre. The not-so- special parts outnumbered the incredible parts, unfortunately.
Fixers- Here Comes 2001...- It was just so disappointing. After the incredible "Amsterdam" and seriously impressive "Iron deer Dream" I was expecting a really well- biult, beautiful sound from this lot. But nope; just infuriatingly annoying and pointlessly meaningless pieces of clutter that tried to be psycadelic but failed on an epic level. Seriosuly hoping that when they release a full- length they don't stick to this formula.
is completely beyond me. Incredible record.
I am amazed TKOL isn't on that list. Not that its the worst, certainly not, but it is clearly not up to scratch.
I personally really didnt like Zola Jesus. thats all i can think of at this moment
My god, it's been 9 months now and my opinion of it hasn't shifted. And I really, REALLY loved Radiohead. It has a couple of interesting moments, I'll agree. Lotus Flower is pretty strong, and I have a personal liking for Morning Mr Magpie. Apart from that it's just mediocre song after mediocre song. I'm still baffled that the band who produced In Rainbows could produce this.
(but definitely not the worse) was Gang Gang Dance's Eye Contact. It's not bad but just massively lacking compared to the sprawling majesty of Saint Dymphna. That is one of my favourite albums of all time so maybe it was bound to disappoint, but they have gone too far over to the slick-pop sound and I just can't get into it.
A personal thing I think
It's also 'disappointing' in that it pretty much signals the end for Gucci, he's been flagging a bit recently but this is utter shite.
Amon Tobin - Isam
Balam Acab - Wander / Wonder
Bullion - You Drive Me To Plastic
Cut Copy - Zonoscope
Ford & Lopatin - Channel Pressure
Junior Boys - It's All True
M83 - Hurry Up Were Dreaming
Plaid - Scintilli
Zomby - Dedication
And hopefully the last.
Seriously there are only so many water samples and chipmunk FX you can handle on one album. The mood is all style no substance. So disappointing after See Birds.
Unless you could explain...
Mood is not created just by taking a stylistic paint by numbers approach but exists in the details which make the whole. For example - just because you put reverb on something doesn't mean that sound then describes a space, it takes more detail - something more substantial in the make up of the sound. This album lacked that substance in my opinion, it had a nice sheen with little underneath. You can think what you like.
In fact I agree with your explanation, but the beauty really is in the detail of this record. How the percussion sways (or flows) to create an organic feel from something so obviously computerised. And how the delicate, wordless vocals with RnB inflexions help humanise a record steeped in a feeling of isolation. I'm waffling...but its not all reverb...
That was a simplistic example to make my point. I could hear the detail, I just didn't feel it, the production was just too sterile for me. I didn't dislike the album but it was a disappointment compared to how much I thought I would love it. Glad you liked it though.
It took me a while to like it as much as I do now however
In fact I've been thinking about this a bit recently. It's so odd but I was listening to Oneohtrix Point Never and there was this synth that goes out of tune for a second, almost like a bagpipe. It gutted me. I think Burial is a master at mood because of all the layers of detail which seems so sporadic and unpredictable, some detail is so subtle you hear it one time and miss it another, or in any case not remember it. Boards of Canada are masters as well, I don't know what processes they put on their sounds but there is something magic in the makeup of their synths, as well as all the crackles and hisses and everything else they add. Maybe that's just the way I like it, slightly faded and warped but not over produced and too clean/neat.
Which song was it? I love little nuances like that which leave a big impact. I want to hear it.
Skying by The Horrors is a record I would certainly use as an example to describe your interpretation of style over substance.
made in america is god awful
...is pretty annoying, he is always on the radio over here (San Francisco), Ryan Adams famously called him once and left him a long voicemail laying into him, it's here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoTUXBbaFjE
but ryan adams comes across as a whiny little bitch in that voicemail
I was expecting something clever and complex, I got dirgey. Like a big fat fruit cake.
To complete that post
When other people say these things I think they just mean they fail to find a uniformity of loved records amongst their peers and music culture in general. But maybe not...
I have bought a lot of records this year, not all of them 2011 records, but of the ones released this year there has been some disappointments (Girls, TVOTR, OkRiver) but I've found at least 20 odd that I properly love and many of those are debuts.
That seems to me a pretty decent return for a year of music.
My Morning Jacket
British Sea Power
Helms Alee (but only cos of the high standard of the debut)
Trail of Dead
Tha Carter IV. I mean, taking off the fan obsessed glasses it could have gone either way....and it's not *that* bad an album. However...
I must know all the lyrics to Carter III, got all the mixtapes in between and sold myself on the romantic backstory of prison, built up creativity, tortured artist, tunes and words in the bag whilst he was away...
Man, I've got to let go of some of that rock n roll BS. Record is just alright, some good lines and a tune here and there. Although personally, a disappointment.