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Who's got a cool £2.7 mil shoved under the mattress then?
also the Tally Ho had been derelict for a good few years before it was torn down.
that piece is a little stupid.
I don't want Camden/K Town to lose it's musical scene, I like being able to walk home a gig.
Camden is just evolving like everywhere else and the only way it can be seen as "losing" its "scene" is by people romanticising the past. I like Camden because it ISN'T cool and doesn't exist to satisfy some floating gig-going clientele desperate to find the latest late-night hotspot.
The Bull & Gate's in Kentish Town, by the way.
but I was there last night and the crowd was very very low indeed, which is a shame since Genna Marabese and Admiral Black were excellent. I'm sure the bands wouldn't mind a few hipsters ...
and many of them, like Camden, have DJ-only club nights at the weekend, which is their bread and butter and helps bankroll those touring bands during the week.
It has to be a really exceptional gig for me to head out East too often, the people can be a bit ... you know ... Cargo's OK, but I refuse to set foot in the Hoxton Bar And Grill ever again.
Camden, like Brixton,still seems to have some sense of reality about it which has survived all the various trends.
the yoofs move around and the venue owners follow yoof culture but there's still always plenty of late 20 to late 30 somethings enjoying their nostalgia nights (hello me) with their disposable incomes (less so much me) lurking around. and, i think, that's what the article misses the point of. Camden's not got crap - you've just got old.
Doesn’t your last sentence contradict everything else in the post?
but it did not come out quite as i had intended
It is evolving, it's evolving into something shit. It's become a parody of itself and it's a real shame.
They seem to exist totally outside the regular gig-going circuit.
ie, usually inhouse or by one promoter, and with 4 bands a night, seven nights a week. You don't get the variety you get when you have lots of promoters, nor do you get the touring bands, but I guess it's more of a dependable business model in the long term.
Fandango, back when Fierce Panda was more active/prominent, used to be pretty good for putting stuff on.
but then the indie scene in general has changed so much in the last five/ten years. it's no bad thing, really, cultural scenes that never change get boring...
(“We’re playing a gig in Camden – this time next week, the cover of NME!”), or closed-shop industry gigs used to test out the major-labels’ next-big-thing.
Areas come and go all the time. In the 60s it was Soho, in the 80s/90s it was Camden, in the early noughties it was Hoxton/Shoreditch, mid-noughties it looked like it might be Kilburn, and these days it’s Dalston and Hackney.
Can't blame me for wanting to keep a local venue though. More gigs at the Tufnell Park Dome please.
I mean the Dome always existed as a club but I don't remember gigs there until maybe five years ago.
My Body Don't Wanna Be Me Anymore
see you in a bit.
I saw Dingus Khan earlier in the year at Slack Space and was genuinely, but not literally, 'blown away'. So much so that i didn't know how to express what i was seeing and hearing, so i asked Richard 'Benny' Benendetti, who had obviously been thinking what i had and had managed to put his thoughts into words... ''Dingus Khan?... difficult to nail down an accurate description... a kind of angular, off-kilter anti-pop, multi-layered, multi-faceted, underpinned by bass and percussion overload... they do all the right things in the wrong places, and vice-versa!... impossible to provide obvious references, but imagine Zappa, Beefheart, Coltrane, Mark E. Smith, XTC, and Gang Of Four magically came together to form a 'virtual' supergroup?.. and those of us who might remember Colchester's greatest-ever band, early 80's avant-gardists The Reasonable Strollers... well, perhaps DK evoke their spirit if not their sound...'' Exactly.
I decided to take a trip to the Bull and Gate in North London, to try and get more of a perspective on them. How would they go down in London? Do they still seem like something special away from the non-Colchester scene?
The seven of them on that small stage, three basses, some kind of ukelele, two drummers and the best frontman I've seen since Frank Black, combine to make the most joyous noise but with melody and catchy choruses.
A highlight of the show was a cover of 'Doctor Who'. Really funny and also very catchy. Humour and music don't always mix - but DK get the balance just right. By the end of the gig they'd got the crowd on their side, and answered my question. Yes they do have something special, I can see them sitting alongside some of the great bands of the past 20 years.
tho i have to be in The Monarch to see Monsta, so i dunno. can't you move your gig to the Lock Tavern or something? :-P
You didn't see when many named bands play there these days.
I've watched a gig in there.
mentioned Timebox shows how out of touch he is.
Let's all go to Feet First tonight at the Camden Palace shall we?
oh no wait, sorry, my mistake - Feet First is on Tuesdays.
and flogs videos of the bands' sets to them for £50 a pop buys it.
...in his little cubby hole. </3
and becoming a tour de force in band promotion.
£2.7 million though. It's fucking falling down for Christ's sake.
Great soundsystem though.