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James Blake rails against dubstep's emerging "frat-boy market"

springirly [Edit] [Delete] 95 replies 23:04, 28 September '11

James Blake comments on his frustrations with the levels of testosterone in the current dubstep,what do you think about?

http://www.dbhills.com/James-Blake-comments-about-dubstep-scene-frat-boy-market

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  • its basically nu-metal but 10 years on

    peaceboner | 28 Sep '11, 23:07 | X
    Icarus-Smicarus, drcoffeebean, Anthonyc, and thekidswhopoptoday this'd this
    • Whos the limb bizkit of dubstep then?

      Bombtrack @peaceboner | 28 Sep '11, 23:49 | X
      • Skrillex

        obvs

        Body_In_The_Thames @Bombtrack | 28 Sep '11, 23:51 | X
        peaceboner and Ichor this'd this
      • I believe it's this

        http://soundcloud.com/punpzmusic/korn-and-skrillex-get-up

        GoffBoy @Bombtrack | 29 Sep '11, 23:31 | X
        • Oh, didn't check the article

          It's there.

          Still stands though.

          GoffBoy @GoffBoy | 29 Sep '11, 23:32 | X
      • nero

        Walsandrew @Bombtrack | 30 Sep '11, 14:03 | X
    • well, it's more like the clash between the logical progression style drum n bass and the Bad Company end of the market

      but yeah, i see the obvious Nu-Metal comparison too.

      pieces_of_reece @peaceboner | 29 Sep '11, 10:00 | X
  • I don't know. What am I supposed to think about it?

    simon_t | 28 Sep '11, 23:07 | X
  • wub

    guntrip | 28 Sep '11, 23:08 | X
    • womp

      drcoffeebean @guntrip | 28 Sep '11, 23:11 | X
      eoin this'd this
      • G-g-g-guess I got my swagger back WOMP WOMP WOMP WOMP WAAAAHHHH

        hip_young_gunslinger @drcoffeebean | 29 Sep '11, 16:13 | X
        Cementimental this'd this
  • Is James Blake heading for a fall?

    Icarus-Smicarus | 28 Sep '11, 23:10 | X
    drcoffeebean and WhiteLightWhiteCity this'd this
    • what do u think, bb?

      navajo @Icarus-Smicarus | 28 Sep '11, 23:47 | X
  • He's right.

    cronenberg | 28 Sep '11, 23:21 | X
    brainfeeder, awaythecrowroad, badmanreturns, SCROTUM, hanshotfirst, andyvine, blobcow, r_o_r_y, drcoffeebean, incandenza_, medulla, and Ymmit this'd this
  • paging brightonb

    is he still banned???

    fiddygent | 28 Sep '11, 23:31 | X
    • brightonb is banned???

      Wow I missed something there - how did he finally push Sean to the limit?

      badgertastic @fiddygent | 28 Sep '11, 23:38 | X
      • somebody asked to ban him and now he's not here, at all.

        I assumed his banned. I think for the site's redesign we should have a list of all the people that are currently banned on in the 'sin bin'. A little bit like the 'these people has not allowed in this shop' signs you have in some stores. It would help make everything more transparent. For instance does CG keep on getting banned or does he just like changing his user name every couple of months.

        fiddygent @badgertastic | 28 Sep '11, 23:44 | X
        andyvine this'd this
      • Pretty sure he was banned for being a cunt in the RIP DJ Mehdi thread.

        joeymahone @badgertastic | 29 Sep '11, 12:26 | X
        Body_In_The_Thames this'd this
        • *every thread

          Cementimental @joeymahone | 30 Sep '11, 13:20 | X
  • His cheeks are fucking weird

    why has no one mentioned this before

    still_here | 28 Sep '11, 23:40 | X
    • His face is usually all blurry.

      Maybe they've gone weird from shaking his head around too much.

      Icarus-Smicarus @still_here | 29 Sep '11, 00:35 | X
      • Fuck Mini Babybel!

        Body_In_The_Thames @Icarus-Smicarus | 29 Sep '11, 12:09 | X
        Icarus-Smicarus this'd this
  • apropos of nothing

    macho-ism should be machismo
    the -ism splits the prefix

    Body_In_The_Thames | 28 Sep '11, 23:42 | X
    • alright there cedric?

      codpieceface @Body_In_The_Thames | 29 Sep '11, 01:31 | X
  • Oh noes! Dubstep is garnering mainstream acceptance!

    Time to jump ship! Amirite?

    BladeJB343 | 29 Sep '11, 00:25 | X
    • here we go

      Body_In_The_Thames @BladeJB343 | 29 Sep '11, 00:28 | X
      medulla this'd this
    • it happened last year

      barely anyone good is left around 140bpm anymore...

      awaythecrowroad @BladeJB343 | 29 Sep '11, 00:39 | X
  • lol'd hard

    Mehodor | 29 Sep '11, 00:51 | X
  • Skrillex rails against dubstep's continuing "wet sissy white boy soul dubstep"

    watch this space

    SCROTUM | 29 Sep '11, 01:29 | X
  • absolutely agree, but you know

    as an indie kid my tribe has always been that aligned against testosterone fueled music for well adjusted macho men lol

    Tiresias | 29 Sep '11, 01:52 | X
  • dubstep had 'an ethos'

    wow, who knew?

    cliquester | 29 Sep '11, 04:34 | X
    • good ILM thread on "brostep" from a while back:

      http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=41&threadid=88861

      joeymahone @cliquester | 29 Sep '11, 12:31 | X
      • I didn't reply here

        joeymahone @joeymahone | 29 Sep '11, 12:35 | X
  • wob

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL5U1iWeP3w

    f'ing gerds

    Poke | 29 Sep '11, 12:30 | X
    SCROTUM this'd this
  • pot calling the kettle boring

    Cementimental | 29 Sep '11, 12:34 | X
  • I agree with him.

    Not on the 'straying from its ethos' stuff, but that the aggressive sounding wobble music is dogdirt.

    I've never seen dancing as ridiculous than at one of those nights.

    wrightylew | 29 Sep '11, 12:53 | X
    • Is that the finger-pointy thing

      i don't get it. It's silly. Why would you ever do that it doesn't look cool.

      still_here @wrightylew | 29 Sep '11, 13:39 | X
  • Also 'emerging'

    Hasn't this divide between the so-called 'macho-step' and the apparently more cerebral stuff been around for years now. I mean how long ago was Chainsaw Calligraphy? 2-3 years? We're way past the fact now. I thought everyone had just accepted the separate sounds and got on with it.

    Also 'a direct misrepresentation of the sound as far as I'm concerned.' - i'm curious to know, as the clear ambassador of Dubstep, what the sound should be represented as?

    Poke | 29 Sep '11, 13:38 | X
    • feist covers

      shit_post @Poke | 29 Sep '11, 13:49 | X
      revgreen this'd this
    • I think he's making the (resonable) point that if you say .'dubstep'. in the USofA that means SkrillexAngryBroStomp

      and he's distancing both himself and the genre from that tag (or trying to )

      Body_In_The_Thames @Poke | 29 Sep '11, 13:49 | X
      • There's plenty of DJs over there

        that have been in tune since the start and no what's what. If he's talking about the popularised version of dubstep, as it also appears in the UK, then it's not really worth the effort of rallying against. Just look at what happened when rave crossed over in the states... http://bit.ly/n4L1Xa

        Poke @Body_In_The_Thames | 29 Sep '11, 13:56 | X
        revgreen this'd this
        • I wen to a 'rave' somewhere on the beltway around Washington DC in 1995

          it was hell - in a Walmart meets Prodigy kind of a way

          :(

          Body_In_The_Thames @Poke | 29 Sep '11, 17:38 | X
      • This.

        It's difficult to tell people over on this shore what I've been listening to these days. "Well, dubstep, but nothing at all like what the word means to you."

        I suddenly have a lot of sympathy with the people who listened to emo when suddenly the term shifted from American Football to My Chemical Romance.

        shoeshined @Body_In_The_Thames | 5 Oct '11, 01:44 | X
    • Chainsaw Calligraphy

      is pretty much the only dubstep track I like :3

      Cementimental @Poke | 30 Sep '11, 12:41 | X
  • quote - not going to appeal to women - unquote

    rly? i saw queues for a couple of dubstep nights in 'the north' last year and it was a good 75% women.

    ps. wub

    shadyadie | 29 Sep '11, 14:12 | X
    • That quote made me "lol" for a quite a bit

      Annoying_person @shadyadie | 29 Sep '11, 14:35 | X
      • women love wubs

        shadyadie @Annoying_person | 29 Sep '11, 15:53 | X
        • wuv wubs

          Cementimental @shadyadie | 29 Sep '11, 17:11 | X
          • wub wubs

            Icarus-Smicarus @Cementimental | 29 Sep '11, 23:13 | X
  • does anyony here actually hear like james blake?

    Walsandrew | 29 Sep '11, 14:50 | X
    • I do reasonably

      think this is pretty ace
      http://www.pitchfork.com/tv/pitchfork-music-festival/1742-2011/2805-james-blake-cmyk/

      Tiresias @Walsandrew | 29 Sep '11, 15:05 | X
    • As a person or his music?

      Sorry being facetious but yeah i like CMYK and Klavierwerke particularly. The album is alright but cant see myself listening to it much down the line. As a person who exists in article soundbites, I don't really rate him and ,if I did, 4/10.

      Poke @Walsandrew | 29 Sep '11, 15:11 | X
    • I like his music,

      especially the Klavierwerke EP. I'm not too crazy about the album, though. Oh yeah, he has a new tune, which I quite like:
      http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/09/check-out-james-blake-fear-to-fear/

      bulletboy @Walsandrew | 29 Sep '11, 15:16 | X
      andyvine this'd this
      • yes.

        sunstroke_house @bulletboy | 29 Sep '11, 16:39 | X
  • i love his music

    but when he talks, he comes across as a bit of a cuntflap. why can't he wear a mask and be anonymous like REAL DUBSTEP ARTISTS

    stalecloud | 29 Sep '11, 16:35 | X
    • only metal fingers can do that and get away with it

      james blake just sounds like he's trying to hard, all the time

      Walsandrew @stalecloud | 4 Oct '11, 22:54 | X
  • testosteronestep vs yawnstep

    I'll stick to techno.

    satan_you_dog | 29 Sep '11, 23:10 | X
    Cementimental this'd this
    • *1992-6 jungle

      Cementimental @satan_you_dog | 30 Sep '11, 12:42 | X
      Mehodor this'd this
  • I'm all for extremism

    but with some substance, yeah?

    I mean, I still love some of the stuff Vex'd and Spor and that were releasing a few years back, but the whole nasty bass line thing has been co-opted by people with no substance whatsoever.

    incandenza_ | 29 Sep '11, 23:22 | X
  • my kind of level of testosterone

    http://soundcloud.com/acephale/korallreven-as-young-as-1

    cronenberg | 30 Sep '11, 02:07 | X
  • and as if on cue...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/sep/29/skrillex-dubstep-interview

    gaborszabo | 30 Sep '11, 02:25 | X
    • Is that Corey Feldman?

      bruised_blood @gaborszabo | 30 Sep '11, 13:57 | X
    • he used to sing in From First to Last?

      wuuuttt

      wewerewerewolvesonce @gaborszabo | 2 Oct '11, 16:38 | X
  • BUT

    dubstep at it's most 'extreme' or 'filthy' or whatever is still totally tame, boring and not very noisy or aggressive at all compared to the extremes of all other dance genres. :-/

    Cementimental | 30 Sep '11, 12:36 | X
    • i think the 4 or so dubstep tracks i have heard i actually like are the sort of thing everyone's complaining about

      i don't like Skrillex tho as far as i know

      Cementimental @Cementimental | 30 Sep '11, 12:39 | X
    • *any other dance genre

      Cementimental @Cementimental | 30 Sep '11, 12:40 | X
    • Do you ever get bored of being smug and superior

      about everything ever?

      Cos i get bored of you doing that. It's really boring.

      still_here @Cementimental | 30 Sep '11, 17:16 | X
      • you just don't 'get' my posts

        Cementimental @still_here | 1 Oct '11, 13:34 | X
        Cementimental this'd this
      • 'If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all.' - John Cage.

        (^___^)<3

        Cementimental @still_here | 1 Oct '11, 13:40 | X
        • If stabbing yourself in the face is painful for two minutes,

          Try it for four. If still not painful, then eight. Then sixteen. Eventually, dead.

          InsomniacBoy @Cementimental | 1 Oct '11, 23:19 | X
          • >

            http://www.millsworks.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/writing_process.gif

            Cementimental @InsomniacBoy | 2 Oct '11, 04:34 | X
  • There's a wimit...

    to your Wub.

    ehwhat | 30 Sep '11, 13:03 | X
  • Douche Step

    DriftingSkeleton | 30 Sep '11, 13:07 | X
    Cementimental, Icarus-Smicarus, and film_maker this'd this
  • Doomcore is better than dubstep

    Cementimental | 30 Sep '11, 13:20 | X
    • clowncore is better than the lot of them - http://vimeo.com/29589320

      Walsandrew @Cementimental | 30 Sep '11, 14:09 | X
      Cementimental this'd this
  • Just found this

    Dubstep track used in Weetabix ad

    http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/09/30/maybe-dubstep-isnt-so-edgy-anymore-whats-next/

    peaceboner | 30 Sep '11, 16:47 | X
    • I remember the time i first heard jungle on an air freshener ad or somethinggg

      RIP ;__;

      Cementimental @peaceboner | 30 Sep '11, 16:59 | X
      • touch'n'fresh touch'n'fresh

        Body_In_The_Thames @Cementimental | 1 Oct '11, 18:50 | X
  • why bite the hand that feeds you?

    watsona7 | 1 Oct '11, 20:20 | X
  • I don't like Skrillex

    Why do fans of electronic music have such hostile attitudes towards American people/culture?

    wysh | 1 Oct '11, 21:21 | X
    • Because Americans turn everything good into shit?!

      bulletboy @wysh | 1 Oct '11, 21:28 | X
      • ?

        specifics, please

        watsona7 @bulletboy | 1 Oct '11, 23:21 | X
        • from...

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIo8fuG7sAE

          to

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUgK_RYjj2o

          lol

          jimitheexploder @watsona7 | 1 Oct '11, 23:31 | X
          • from...

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptgcw8Hu0hg

            to

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlluJjApYM

            You can't get more wet than that last vid...

            :')

            jimitheexploder @jimitheexploder | 1 Oct '11, 23:42 | X
            • from...

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-WzB48MIJ0

              to

              http://widgets.beggarspromo.com/SlaughterHouseTiestoRemix

              wait....

              jimitheexploder @jimitheexploder | 1 Oct '11, 23:49 | X
              • from...

                http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/africa_pop_79.jpg

                to

                http://www.slaveryinamerica.org/geography/slavery_us_1860.jpg

                Cementimental @jimitheexploder | 2 Oct '11, 04:36 | X
            • to be fair

              I suspect those kids in the unofficial Skrillex video aren't entirely serious.

              wewerewerewolvesonce @jimitheexploder | 2 Oct '11, 16:33 | X
              • also

                1.54 onwards :'D

                wewerewerewolvesonce @wewerewerewolvesonce | 2 Oct '11, 16:35 | X
    • classism/heteronormativity/xenophobia totally inexcusable independent of the fact that american rehashes of UK dance genres do actually objectively suck

      Cementimental @wysh | 2 Oct '11, 04:39 | X
      • Look, maybe my comment was too harsh,

        and I certainly didn't mean it any kind of xenophobic/nationalist way, but the fact is that Americans do water-down good stuff from Europe, and vice versa.

        bulletboy @Cementimental | 2 Oct '11, 10:24 | X
        • ha mine was definitely too harsh so that's ok :)

          Cementimental @bulletboy | 2 Oct '11, 15:04 | X
  • :')

    http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/intervention.png

    jimitheexploder | 2 Oct '11, 00:05 | X
    bulletboy this'd this
  • don;t mind dubstep if it's turned back into Grime again

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc7n0tuFaPk

    Cementimental | 2 Oct '11, 04:56 | X
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5TPahrKGY

      Cementimental @Cementimental | 2 Oct '11, 04:58 | X
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