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So who is going to win tonight? I'll say Anna Calvi.
Tinie Tempah and Adele are the only two 'big sellers' in the list really - maybe Elbow too.
and now they're less big than Anna Calvi? Ah, DiS.
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For the record, I'd love for Ghostpoet or Metronomy to win. And I certainly wouldn't be upset if King C and Jon H won. If Elbow win I might just jack in this music journalism lark. If that's one of the best 12 British/Irish albums of the past 12 months, then I'm the Honourable Leo Usain Bolt.
Also, Kevin Perry will be there tonight for DiS. He'll be posting some bits on the boards and over on twitter as http://twitter.com/drownedin (our events-only, live-tweeting thingy)
Maybe I should BEFRIEND him.
As Sean said, I'll be on twitter at: http://twitter.com/drownedin and I'll also be posting updates to this thread through the night.
I just spoke to the bookies, and they're tipping King Creosote & Jon Hopkins as a potential dark horse: http://drownedinsound.com/news/4143501-pj-harvey-favourite-to-win-second-mercury-prize
As someone who spent my adolescence living it up on the English Riviera, I'd love to see Metronomy win. PJ Harvey's is the album I've listened to most though.
when you can just get the bits with Jools Holland being a prat
I hope The Phantom Band get it. I'm sure the panel would have selected them...
But there's a big Elbow-shaped thing in their place.
Adele – 21
Anna Calvi – Anna Calvi
Elbow – Build a Rocket Boys!
Everything Everything – Man Alive
Ghostpoet – Peanut Butter Blues & Melancholy Jam
Gwilym Simcock – Good Days at Schloss Elmau
James Blake – James Blake
Katy B – On a Mission
King Creosote & Jon Hopkins – Diamond Mine
Metronomy – The English Riviera
PJ Harvey – Let England Shake
Tinie Tempah – Disc-Overy
I do think sometimes they should just change it to a debut album prize
and like the new album but it really doesn't need to be on the shortlist.
would much rather it be something I may like less but from an artist who has much more to gain from winning
hopefully pj harvey.
about how shit the winning album is.
both of which seem to stoke up the most arguments here
Head says Blake or Metronomy
Heart says PJ
6/4 PJ Harvey
5/1 James Blake
7/1 Anna Calvi
16/1 Katy B
16/1 Everything Everything
20/1 King Creosote & Jon Hopkins
40/1 Tinie Tempah
50/1 Gwilym Simcock
since Kenny's a cool guy.
King Creosote & Jon Hopkins will win.
Those are the only 2 albums there that I like. Everything Everything are pretty good as well tho.
personally, think his album is ace. Metronomy winning would have been c
Smother would have been easily my pick had it actually been nominated.
Kind creosote now being quoted as favourites. 6/4 with some bookies.
A huge swing.
Paul Weller at centre of 'biggest turnaround in music betting for 40 years': http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/sep/06/mercury-prize-paul-weller
Needless to say, he didn't win.
though on the other hand the big gamble on Antony and the Johnsons in 2005 proved to be correct
this is entirely due to the weight of music people going "King Creosote, that's the dark horse" yesterday and this morning.
oddschecker has it at fifth favourite, behind pj, adele, calvi, blake, over a range of 9/2 - 8/1
do we know who the judges are?
Saying that, I just backed it at 6/1 down the road, with a cheeky £5 on PJ to try and offset my losses.
They must be quaking in their boots.
is always at pains to clarify that the decision is never made before the judges get into one room on the evening.
any of the acts particularly good or bad live?
Janice Long - Former BBC Radio 1 DJ, now of Radio 2
Charles Hazlewood - Noted British classical music conductor
Jude Rogers - Guardian music columnist
Arwa Haider - Metro newspaper music critic
George Ergatoudis - Head of Music, BBC Radio 1
Conor McNicholas - Former editor of NME. Now editor of Top Gear magazine
Mike Flynn - Jazz editor, Time Out magazine
John Kennedy - DJ and presenter of X-Posure new music show on XFM
Mark Findlay - Head of Music, Global Radio (Capital FM)
Dean Jackson - DJ BBC Radio Nottingham
It says it all really.
He lasted less than a year.
if they were in time or not. If they were then yeah, baffled also.
which was the last day for album eligible for this year's prize, so guessed they missed out.
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but I hope ghostpoet takes it.
Considerably louder than everything else so far.
PJ Harvey's got the best album by far (my opinion, i.e all that matters) so won't win.
The law of you don't win it twice also rules out Peej and Elbow.
King Creosote should win so everyone goes 'who the hell is he?' and buys his back catalogue catapulting him into the national conscious and getting him the recognition he deserves.
I'm thinking the last two winners have been slightly under the radar, alternative, they're going to go back to something mainstream so that everyone who reads it in the papers tomorrow goes 'Ah yes, a music award that agrees with my taste, I'm glad I have such good taste in music that wins awards'.
Which leaves us with Tinie or Adele. Now I've had much, much more fun with the Tinie album as I guess most people have but it just doens't keep up the consistency throughout. Adele on the other hand has sold about 36 million copies, one for every other person in the country so who can argue with that?
I'm going Adele.
am finding it hard to find any statistics about how well the xx were doing before they won, but I remember them already being very widely known - they were 5/2 favourites, (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-10696387). It definitely wasn't a controversial choice. Having said that, I can still see why they'd want to go for a really big selling record, that hasn't happened for a while.
there's a lot we deliberately miss out. The xx had already headlined the Arena at Latitude and soundtracked the BBC election coverage by the time they won so they were hardly unknown quantities to all but journos. Similarly One Day Like This had already colonised radio and Klaxons were one of the most talked about bands at that moment, so much was invested in nu-rave and its style section potential. And then there's the Arctics win...
Your link does prove that the bookies were expecting The XX to win and they were right (how do they always seem to know????). But was that based on the fact that they'd gone totally left field the year before with Speech, realised it hadn't gone to plan and gone for a guitar band who was under radar but cool? Nah, cos Wild Beasts, Foals and Villagers were available.
Looked up chart positions and the xx didn't chart with anything until after the Mercury, re-issues. I don't recall them getting much radio play and only a little internet coverage.
Maybe it's all down to the judging panel and the strength of argument in the room but what arguments are they using? I must kno!
because, while it got great reviews across the board, it wasn't a huge hype album on release but still entered in the top 40, and it seemed the amount of press about them just grew and grew from there - the album was certainly almost always selling before the announcement (http://www.chartstats.com/albuminfo.php?id=14392)
I like that site, when I'm a millionaire I'm going to chuck them a few quid cos it needs a little investment.
By your argument up there, you reckon a 'bubbling under, need a shove towards the spotlight' might do it. In the dying minutes you going to make a prediction so we can all point and laugh at each other afterwards?
I don't know, tbh. I have a sneaking suspicion they might go with Adele after all this, even though in the build-up her chances had pretty much been sidelined.
Right, I'm saying Katie B (obv I've already called out Adele so I've got doubles) ;-)
even though his album isn't really very good.
perhaps word has got out there will be a 'surprise winner'
I remember Beth Orton getting a massive betting push right near the announcement in the year Roni Size won.
and there was that big hoo-ha with Paul Weller last (?) year too.
I heard a song by them recently that wasn't actually shit, and they're the right level of mildly well known without being massive.
What kind of dullard bets on the Mercury Prize?
My only ever proper bet.
Betting on boring things makes them more fun and exciting. Roulette, horse racing and poker aren't that entertaining without something at stake.
Yesh, I lost on this tedious piece of shit. Cunts!
Mike Diver told me we'd be live to the world at 10, but NOTHING IS HAPPENING HERE.
Hopefully not too much longer until we're told.
for anyone to have really *heard* it i guess.
when his album came out right at the end of the eligibility period
I would have thought the band/record label registered it for consideration long before it was released. The panel just didn't rate it highly enough to make the shortlist.
Well done Peej.
PJ Harvey is probably the artist who least needs that money. Good album or not.
-Im just bitter that kenny's lost me money again.
Adele? 3m UK sales to date? I imagine she has some pots to piss in.
isn't short of a bob or two either.
Given that every one of their five studio albums have made the top 20, Seldom seen kid selling over 1 million copies alone, and their stadium support of bands like coldplay, u2 and muse (all of which will have paid a pretty penny)
so I'm very happy
glad none of those other shit bastards won
"decision driven by the chance to make history and finally award it in person!"
the last time she won she wasn't present? (she was in the USA, around the time of 9/11). As for the history part, I'm guessing it's winning twice.
she was in a hotel in Washington DC I think overlooking the Pentagon.
im very happy!
She's still as gorgeous now as was in '92. How's that possible? *heart*
Im glad Adele or the made up jazz act didnt get it
I'd like to bring up the Express' insightful review of Let England Shake
Anyone who disagrees should blame speech debelle. Few years before the judges take that kind of punt again. Pity, because her album was only alright, ghostpoet & kc/jh genuinely good.
This tweet. Fo' real or trolling?
@HolyMolyNews PJ Whovey? Once again the music industry goes on to prove it knows vast amounts of fuck all about actual music. #mercuryprize
Tweeted by @SmokinFishBread
in the same way HolyMoly trolled everyone else about Let England Shake: http://www.holymoly.com/reviews/music/album-review-pj-harvey-let-england-shake52895
to a well-earned victory...
nice that she won and all that......but dissapointed one of the more low profile acts didn't win.....like she's made a fair few bob over the years already and is bound to make a shit loads more from winning this.......not saying "i support the underdog" and all that but would've been nice to see someone like Metromony or everything everything win.....just so they are heard by the masses a bit more......but in the end fair play to her....although no one told her a swan had sat on her head before the event......
maybe it's just the nature of twitter, but extraordinary the amount of people this year who seem to have suggested this is a wilful decision rewarding an obscure artist... I know the odd mainstream act has won, but for all that they're a silly award, when were the Mercurys for the biggest seller? Channel 4 News's dickhead showbiz correspondent seems to be suggesting this was a snub to Adele.
Anyway, PJ Harvey won - huzzah!
it looked set up for a mainstream press angle of Adele Snubbed. Adele is the sort of thing showbiz journalists excitedly put forward in an attempt to prove they really like music and aren't just in it because they might get their picture taken with Peter Andre.
Or else Gwilym Simcock would have won and Adele and Elbow wouldn't have been nominated. I imagine the xx were becoming quite well off from increasing gig venues, constant album sales and TV background music royalties before they won last year.