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End of the Road - how was it for you?

eltham [Edit] [Delete] 110 replies 10:47, 5 September '11

What a nice festival.

Highlights:
Joanna Newsom - absolutely mesmerising, enchanting, beautiful etc. First time I'd seen her solo and it was much, much better than when she has a band. Just so perfect.

The food - Rather than spend money on alcohol, I decided to eat as much as I could. Had some delicious dishes; Tibetan curry, Pieminister, Steak sandwiches near the Garden stage, BBQ platter and cheeseburger from The Story, Goan fish curry. WE HAVE TO GO BACK.

Bob Log III - Never laughed so much at a festival before. "God damn, Bob Log" :')

Tinawiren - Many people describe Omar Soulemayne as the LCD Soundsystem of world music. If that is true then Tinawiren are its Coldplay. Always put in a good shift when your festival requires desert rhythms.

The Garden stage - Loved that stage, especially when the sun was out. Shame there were hardly any good acts on it though.

The sound - They did a great job with it, particularly for Joanna and Mogwai. Clear and loud.

Other noteworthy performances in order of goodness:
Wild Beasts
Twin Shadow
Lanterns on the Lake
Three Trapped Tigers
Wild Nothing
Laura Marling
Fresh & Onlys
Beirut

Lowlights:
Arriving 5 minutes too late for The Rat, catching only the last song of The Walkmen's set :( (also missing most of Friday)

The weather - it was mainly pleasant but very confusing - from Saharan to sub-zero in the blink of a cloud.

The number of preppy teenagers - they should ban all teenagers from the festival.

Zola Jesus - probably the one set where the sound was shit.

It ended too soon.

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  • Three Trapped Tigers?!

    What? How did I miss this? Where did they play?

    Lanterns on the Lake and HEALTH did it for me.

    The Woods Stage was necessary after the mess that was the Fleet Foxes gig from a few years back. I just hope the capacity doesn't keep expanding. It's at a comfortable level now; anymore and it'll be Glastonbury-lite.

    But still the finest festival Britain has to offer.

    HalfCutHero | 5 Sep '11, 11:12 | X
    • TTTs were special guests in the Tipi wedding marquee on Friday night.

      I didn't know who they were until they announced their name about 4 songs in. Their drummer is immense!

      This was my first year so can't compare the new layout to last year's, but the capacity seemed just right. I hope they don't increase it.

      eltham @HalfCutHero | 5 Sep '11, 11:21 | X
      • Was awesome as per always

        DJ'd most of the night at the outdoor dancefloor on Friday which was great and a bit on Sunday.

        Best acts were:

        M Ward, Phosphercent, Drum Eyes, Health, Joanna Newsom, Mogwai, Brakes and so much more.

        Only act that I saw that wasn't good for Zola Jesus on Sat which sounded terrible and I'm definitely a fan of hers!

        Anthonyc @eltham | 5 Sep '11, 12:31 | X
        • That outdoor dancefloor was pretty cool.

          Did they deliberately turn down the levels for Zola Jesus because it was late? Maybe the sound guy thought the three synth players were just their for show?

          eltham @Anthonyc | 5 Sep '11, 12:37 | X
          • *there

            eltham @eltham | 5 Sep '11, 12:38 | X
            • I spoke to

              One of their crew and they were asked to turn it down a load after a few songs which was obvious. Shame really.

              Anthonyc @eltham | 5 Sep '11, 12:52 | X
  • Fine, thanks

    Plenty of good stuff: HEALTH, what I saw of Tune-Yards, Bob Log III actually getting some girls to be bounced on his knee this time, the remarkable turnout for Allo Darlin', the rather sweet sight of Josh T Pearson being unable to stop giggling, the enormity of the singalong for The Rat, Other Lives, Wild Beasts, The Leisure Society, Dan Mangan, Emmy The Great, Big Deal, CYHSY doing Add It Up with Gordon Gano, Gano's own violin-led version of Blister In The Sun, Brakes of course (Consumer Producer A Chicken Or An Egg!)

    Thought the Woods stage worked as well as it could, though oddly there was a bit of bleed from the Big Top on Sunday only (and not just down there, you could hear Wild Nothing during Josh T, as he himself remarked upon). Bar three or four of the new songs Okkervil River pretty much played the same set as two years ago, right down to Will's solo A Stone. The route down to the comedy stage was practically vertiginous. Shame there weren't more (not quite any, I saw the Cornshed Sisters on Friday) woodland piano sets this year, anything after about 6 seemed to be drowned out by the disco, though I did chance across Laura Marling being recorded by I think Rockfeedback in the woods (which looked really pretty this year) The Tea Bus had a magnet-like effect on me. Met up with pretty much nobody I'd told I'd meet up with.

    simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 11:54 | X
  • such a nice vibe

    everyone was really pleasant, the staff were lovely, relaxed security, pretty good weather on the whole.

    highlights:

    Woods
    Kurt Vile
    Wooden Shjips
    Wild Nothing
    the Fall
    White Denim

    big fan of the Burrito stand too.

    stwerewolf | 5 Sep '11, 12:24 | X
    • Totally forgot

      To say how utterly awesome Woods were. Favorite band levels of love for them.

      Anthonyc @stwerewolf | 5 Sep '11, 12:53 | X
  • What do we make of No Direction Home, then?

    Same organisers, 8th-10th June in Welbeck, near Worksop (about as far north in Nottinghamshire as you can go without crossing into South Yorkshire)

    simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 14:42 | X
    • Aaah it's in June!

      I think I misread it as being 8/10 and I was thinking "who the heck is going to go camping in October?!"

      monpot @simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 15:15 | X
    • I'm there defo defo

      My birthday weekend. No confirmed acts yet from what I know.

      Anthonyc @simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 15:21 | X
    • the website says 8-10 september

      which would make it the weekend after EOTR. Which would probably kill me if I tried to do both.

      OceanStorm @simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 16:50 | X
      • No it doesn't

        http://www.endoftheroadfestival.com/news/eotr-launch-new-festival-for-2012-no-direction-home/

        simon_t @OceanStorm | 5 Sep '11, 18:18 | X
        • ah right

          I was looking at this link http://www.endoftheroadfestival.com/tickets/

          The one you posted is more likely to be right though.

          OceanStorm @simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 18:22 | X
  • Great festival, my first time too.

    Highlights:

    Wild Nothing
    Twin Shadow
    Mogwai
    Bob Log III
    Playing Scrabble and Articulate on the Wonderland Lawns on Sunday afternoon
    The Tea Bus
    Rue Royale
    Other Lives
    Allo' Darlin'
    BRAKES
    Timber Timbre
    Diagrams
    Kurt Vile
    The amazing selections of food and drink and the fact you can wander about with your own drink
    Really smooth journeys there and back, no queues for the shuttle to Salisbury this morning
    Every loo I used had paper *and* hand sanitiser which is incredible really
    That little bit in the woods past the disco with a million fairy lights and origami cranes <3
    No cunts pushing past during bands or taking photos or generally being twattish. I was amazed at the absolute silence Joanna Newsom was granted for her set even towards the back of the crowd.

    Lowlights:
    Really disappointed with Zola Jesus
    The disco in the woods being really quiet on the Saturday night
    It was really fucking cold last night

    Genuinely awesome festival, will be back next year I expect.

    plasticniki | 5 Sep '11, 14:47 | X
  • part of me wants to do it all again right now, and part of me doesn't want to leave my bed for a week

    this was my second EOTR, and I'm starting to find it hard to imagine not going next year.

    Highlights:

    The Walkmen - an absolute joy, despite missing the first few songs
    Mogwai - magical Saturday night headline set, and the sound was perfect
    HEALTH - utterly exhilarating
    Best Coast - her songs had so much more kick live
    Joanna Newsom - not quite as perfect as the full-band set I saw in London last year but wonderful all the same
    Enjoyed a lot of other bands too but those ones stand out.
    Dancing in the woods
    The amazing selection of food once again
    The awesome weather on Friday
    The atmosphere. Quite possibly the friendliest place in the world.

    Lowlights:
    Missing Will Sheff's secret set in the woods because I didn't know about it :(((
    Missing a few things I wanted to see (especially Wild Nothing) because of stewarding shifts, and not really having time to do the other stuff like cinema tent, board games in the wood and such. If my friends and I do stewarding again next year we'll do a nightshift so we don't miss anything.
    How cold it was when the sun went in on Saturday and Sunday
    Being hungover most of Saturday
    Walking in on two of my friends (who had just met, through me) having sex in my tent on Saturday morning. We're laughing about it now but it was a bit weird at the time.
    Zola Jesus being too quiet, as everyone seems to have noticed
    All the bloody wasps. Turns out they like hi-vis jackets.

    OceanStorm | 5 Sep '11, 16:31 | X
    • Was anyone here

      Dancing in the Woods on Friday night to my DJ Set!

      Played for about 5 hours with enough records for an hour. Think was pretty fun though :)

      Anthonyc @OceanStorm | 5 Sep '11, 16:35 | X
      • Dancing in the woods on Friday night

        I was! I only had a ticket for friday, and going mad on the woodland dancefloor was the perfect end to the day. So thanks! You played a really good track that was a bit afrobeaty...I've had the tune in my head all week and don't know what it is. Any ideas?

        CamillaY @Anthonyc | 9 Sep '11, 10:09 | X
    • D: why didn't they use their own tents??

      Other things I liked:
      Pucket
      The fact you could be watching an achingly hip buzz band one minute then be sitting next to a posh family with a cheeseboard the next.

      eltham @OceanStorm | 5 Sep '11, 16:59 | X
      • oh man

        I forgot Pucket! Was tempted to buy a board but then realised it would probably only be fun for 15 minutes...

        plasticniki @eltham | 5 Sep '11, 17:06 | X
        • Same. £35? Hmm...

          I'm going to suggest it to the hipster cafe that's opening near my house soon. I'm sure they'll lap it up.

          eltham @plasticniki | 5 Sep '11, 17:37 | X
      • i was sharing a tent with one of them

        yeah, the crowd was an absurd but ultimately happy mix of teenagers, bearded men and upper-middle-class families.

        I forgot to mention Beirut - dude needs to learn how to structure a set, he blew his load (heh) so early it was painful.

        OceanStorm @eltham | 5 Sep '11, 17:06 | X
  • Great weekend again

    Highlights were:
    The amount of awesome bands on the Garden Stage (my favourite stage) this year. Managed to see every band there on the Sunday.

    Megafaun (this band is ridiculously good, love them so much)
    Woods - ditto above
    Josh T. Pearson
    M. Ward
    Gordon Gano & The Ryans
    Doug Paisley
    White Denim
    Mogwai
    John Grant
    Caitlin Rose
    Micah P. Hinson
    The Walkmen
    The Fresh & Onlys
    Timber Timbre
    Drum Eyes
    Clap Your Hands Say Yeah

    The food - chilli dogs and burritos especially.

    Late night Tipi sets - James Yorkston was awesome.

    The sound quality pretty much all weekend bar one or two sets.

    Good toilets, campsite etc. despite the capacity increase.

    Lowlights:
    tUnE-yArDs
    Bob Log III
    ^ it must be just me because everyone seemed to love both of these.
    FOUND - too quiet.
    Wooden Shjips weren't bad but a bit disappointing despite the nice light show.

    The Garden stage being demoted. The Woods stage was nice but pretty ordinary compared to the Garden. There were also a couple layout changes I wasn't too sure about but I guess these are all pretty minor things.

    ljsawyer_11 | 5 Sep '11, 16:34 | X
    • What's your beef with Bob Log?

      He was unequivocally hilarious.

      eltham @ljsawyer_11 | 5 Sep '11, 17:00 | X
      • I love how EOTR

        now has this little coterie of artists they keep inviting back, so this year they could give Darren Hayman, Steven Adams and David Thomas Broughton a year off but maintain the link with Bob Log, Josh T Pearson, Timber Timbre and obviously Brakes (and I suspect from their crowd that Allo Darlin' are about to join the list)

        simon_t @eltham | 5 Sep '11, 17:08 | X
        InfiniteJest this'd this
      • Bob Logg III

        Is utterly awesome. There cannot be any argument with this surely!?

        Anthonyc @eltham | 5 Sep '11, 17:44 | X
        JohnM this'd this
        • I guess it's a love/hate sorta thing

          Funny, but completely shite music.

          ljsawyer_11 @Anthonyc | 5 Sep '11, 18:07 | X
  • Please describe...

    ...good toilets. My only experience of festival toilets is Reading.

    NeuronsLikeBrandy | 5 Sep '11, 16:49 | X
    • They're portaloos but cleaned regularly, with abundant supply of loo roll and hand sanitizer.

      I went in a loo on Sunday evening and it was cleaner than my toilet at home.

      eltham @NeuronsLikeBrandy | 5 Sep '11, 16:55 | X
  • My first EotR

    Positive:

    * The comedy stage setting was beautiful and I really appreciated the hosting skills of Pappy's, who convinced the crowd to greet arriving acts with the Jurassic Park theme song and got someone to throw their top at the stage
    * Seeing and hearing Gordon Gano was a real treat; I remember overhearing Add It Up being played in the distance and hadn't realised that CYHSY managed to get GG to join them on stage for it.
    * Monkey-onna-Stick being used as a guitar slide by Andy White during Brakes Tipi Tent set
    * The endearing shambles of Ringo Music Bingo
    * Great sets by bands/people I'd never heard of before, including Dan Mangan, This is the Kit, Nathaniel Rateliff, Austra - I put this down to the solidity of the booking.
    * Bands upping their game for the festival - best sets I've seen from the Walkmen, Mogwai and Gruff Rhys ("WOAH")
    * Taking a wrong turn trying to find a bar and discovering Beirut playing in one of the bandstands near the Garden stage on Friday night
    * Getting lost in fairy-light-lit woods
    * Friendliness of fellow festival-goers

    Negatives:

    * Arriving too late to see the Growlers
    * Patch of mud next to the water taps

    eoin | 5 Sep '11, 17:04 | X
    • So brilliant again

      The increased size had no effect on the proportion of wankers, which was still staggeringly low. It was a little light on mind-melting shows compared to previous years but still really strong.

      Highs:

      Mogwai - absolutely incredible show with sound so good you could hear the valves in the amps doing their thing. Band in a really good mood which was nice to see, and a great view at the new stage due to the handy slope. One of my favourite Mogwai shows for sure (and there have been a lot).

      Micah P Hinson - swearing up the Garden stage with great aplomb. Whoever shouted "come on Antoine" derserves a prize for making me laugh"

      Brakes - more focused than usual and greater as a result. Big appreciative crowd partying hard to end the weekend. So fun.

      Walkmen - NY in the country. Brilliant.

      The Fall - finally, after years of watching them and not getting it, loved it. came out, slightly camp, swtiched on a hugely deep groove, and MES barked at us for an hour.

      plus:
      Kurt Vile, Wooden Shijps, Dan Mangan, Phosphorescent, Best Coast, etc etc etc.

      Food great again, and the bitter was lovely - particularly the Cobble Wobble.

      Lowlights:

      I still need a mega-rave, somewhere, each night. Richard hawley playing kinks records is not going to do it for me.

      Was really dark in places, particularly round the comedy stage, which seemed borderline lethal after 13 of those pesky bitters.

      The only downside of the larger set up was the reduced bumping into people. But really, they got away with it in that regard, didn't they?

      JimmyHuntspill @eoin | 5 Sep '11, 18:30 | X
  • Just got back

    Brilliant festival as usual. Can't be bothered to write out a long list but I will say the HEALTH set was one of the most intense things I've experienced and seeing Bob Log twice in one day was pretty special. God damn.

    JohnM | 5 Sep '11, 18:30 | X
  • First time at EOTR

    What an amazing festival. The beard per-person ratio was around 0.4 I reckon.

    My band played on thursday on the tipi tent stage - I was surprised to see so many people there so early.

    I was amazed at how good Josh T Pearson was. His performance was utterly captivating. Just when I was getting disillusioned with the "singer and guitar" format, he comes along! (I know he's been around for a while, but I've only just found out about him.)

    OakenTeat | 5 Sep '11, 19:22 | X
  • I had a fantastic weekend,

    possibly my favourite EOTR so far.
    Too many highpoints to list, but Mogwai, Tune-Yards and HEALTH were probably my favourite sets.
    The food once again was great, and I thought the site handled the capacity increase pretty well. It was good to see the Garden Stage fuller during the day.

    Please say that somebody else saw the guy face-plant while trying to do a 2-person forward roll near the Woods Stage?

    JGJug | 5 Sep '11, 20:05 | X
  • really enjoyed it

    there were lots of moaners on the eotr board about the increased capacity but I think it was fine, you could get a good view of any band on any stage if you wanted, could normally find a bench when eating, easy to find tents space even though we arrived on friday, didnt have to wait long for games in the woods, maybe more showers needed though. Thought they did a good job with the new woods stage, looked nice at night and could always see the bands, seemed more like a big headlining event for the headliners and you could come and go as you wished rather than the garden stage being rammed, only criticism and its pathetically minor, they could have done a better job decorating it, those planks of wood just looked like they were found on a building site but from a distance it looked good. Crowd was good, I only counted three hipsters, think the camping chair brigade have got a little out of hand, im sure they just park their chairs by the garden stage and stay there all day regardless of who is playing, also parents take your kids on a proper holiday

    Highlights: Josh t pearson always gives the highest entertainment to time on stage ratio great music and banter, best coast really good sunny start to the festival, austra kind of out did zola jesus, thought zola jesus was good didnt think she was too quiet rather her drums were too loud if the drum/synth balance was better she would have been better,

    midlights: Phosphorescent, clap your hands say yeah, beirut, mogwai,

    lowlights: micah p hinson, the treacherous infinite path from coach to camp site, too many good bands meaning no chance to watch a film

    ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 20:17 | X
    • joanna newsom should also be in highlights

      she is so much better solo, also it seemed like her voice sounded more like her first album which I liked

      ThingsThatFly @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 20:25 | X
      • another lowlight

        3 pages devoted to real ale in the program, real ale drinkers should not be encouraged

        ThingsThatFly @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 21:08 | X
        • :D

          guntrip @ThingsThatFly | 6 Sep '11, 13:10 | X
          this'd this
        • Get outta here

          That was one of my highlights

          JohnM @ThingsThatFly | 6 Sep '11, 13:36 | X
        • the real ale

          is pretty much worth admission alone

          Christophales @ThingsThatFly | 6 Sep '11, 13:49 | X
    • Well people are always going to moan...

      ...they shouldn't, but they will.

      I have to say I thought the increased capacity did decrease the overall quality of the festival from years previous. More queues for food/toilets and the added Woods stage did take away from the intimacy and loveliness of the whole thing.

      However, these are minor things and most of them are shot through with nostalgia more than anything. This year was my 4th time after all. EOTR is still HANDS DOWN the best outdoor festival there is. If you have to have a slightly increased capacity and expanded layout (which upped the dickhead quota slightly, still kept it WAY below anywhere else) to be treated to the wall to wall quality of music and good times on show this weekend then that's a price I'm happy to pay. I saw lots of bands, I drank lots of cider, I laughed my arse off and I fucking loved it.

      In short - a slight decrease in the overall brilliance of the festival but it's still the best outdoor festival on the calendar. By a long, long way too.

      GetOffMyLawn @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 20:30 | X
      • Also I know this IS DiS...

        ...but not enough mentions for how great Laura Marling was for me. Trumped Newsom for sure (who is captivating, brilliant etc. but a bit tedious and long-winded to really deliver the business...)

        GetOffMyLawn @GetOffMyLawn | 5 Sep '11, 20:33 | X
        • That was

          The first time I'v ever enjoyed Laura Marling. Normally she is really boring for me but was on brilliant form at EOTR

          Anthonyc @GetOffMyLawn | 5 Sep '11, 20:54 | X
          • Agreed.

            I've never seen her live and was slightly hesitant because on record she's still not the finished article and she definitely lacks charisma but I was incredibly impressed. She was wonderful.

            GetOffMyLawn @Anthonyc | 5 Sep '11, 21:01 | X
      • yeah i'd agree there are a few minor things not as good but on balance the benefits to increase it makes it worthwhile. its got such a good reputation that it would sell out really quickly if it had its original capacity, people would miss out, and big headliners would be too crowded, plus looking at the 2006 line up im glad theyve got the money to get some bigger acts in, in the past line ups have relied abit too heavily on the pastoral folk kind of thing this year there seemed more variety, if 2006 capacity comes with 2006's line up id happily take 2011 capacity. The only time I noticed there were more people there was when I was standing at the main stage kind of area, everywhere else seemed similar to 2008/09. Maybe it could have done with a few more food outlets though, never did find the thai one mentioned in the program

        ThingsThatFly @GetOffMyLawn | 5 Sep '11, 20:46 | X
        • Oh yeah, I agree...

          Think they just need a dozen more foot outlets and one more block of bogs and that'll sort it all out queues wise!

          But you're right about it being a price to pay for the eclecticism of the line up... for me 2008 had the best line up but that's because it happened to just have the most bands who I loved (albeit from a narrow genre-pool).

          Plus they need the expansion to be able to move away from putting the same bands on year in year out a la ATP...

          GetOffMyLawn @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 20:50 | X
          • yeah 2008 was a freak occurrence, alot of my favourite bands on one bill

            ThingsThatFly @GetOffMyLawn | 5 Sep '11, 21:02 | X
          • Line-up's kinda samey year to year though

            isn't it?

            WhiteLightWhiteCity @GetOffMyLawn | 5 Sep '11, 21:28 | X
            • Yes, the line-ups had started to get a bit samey...

              ...hence why I said "they need the expansion to be able to move away from putting the same bands on year in year out a la ATP..."

              The point that the line-ups were getting a tad samey, and that this year's expansion was needed to avoid this in future, is what I was saying.

              GetOffMyLawn @WhiteLightWhiteCity | 5 Sep '11, 21:33 | X
              • It's samey in that quite few of the bands have already played in previous years

                but I think as the festival has become more popular the range of bands has become more diverse. For example, you would never have had someone like The Fall playing the Garden Stage in 2008.

                JohnM @GetOffMyLawn | 6 Sep '11, 13:35 | X
                • Totally agreed.

                  It's just a wonderful festival, isn't it?

                  GetOffMyLawn @JohnM | 6 Sep '11, 14:21 | X
                  • Yep

                    Like you, I did a bit of moaning about the extra queuing when I was there but have now bought an early bird ticket for next year.

                    JohnM @GetOffMyLawn | 6 Sep '11, 14:26 | X
              • Hmm, I dunno

                ATP has a lot of faves but it also provides a lot of surprises and quite a few coups. No real sense of uniqueness about the EotR lineups, even if they're reasonably well done.

                WhiteLightWhiteCity @GetOffMyLawn | 6 Sep '11, 14:40 | X
                • Fair enough...

                  ...I haven’t done an analysis of all of the line-ups or anything, but I definitely think that ATP having so many favourites makes line-ups appear to be more homogenous... but I also think this is because there are fewer bands so it accentuates it. Or maybe it’s mainly because I tend to like most of the bands who play EOTR whereas the undercard of ATP is frequently quite grotesque...

                  In short, different festivals; different needs. They’re both great...

                  GetOffMyLawn @WhiteLightWhiteCity | 6 Sep '11, 15:03 | X
                  • ``maybe it’s mainly because I tend to like most of the bands who play EOTR whereas the undercard of ATP is frequently quite grotesque...``

                    Reverse that sentence and you'd have my perspective, but yeah: slightly different focuses.

                    WhiteLightWhiteCity @GetOffMyLawn | 6 Sep '11, 18:06 | X
                • thing is about ATP

                  is the old faves tend to be the larger acts (sonic youth, shellac etc) , where as end of the road the repeat bands tend to be smaller acts (bob log, david thomas broughton, josh t pearson), as it is the large acts that are the big draw for most festival goers I think its better if your gonna have repeat bookings that it be at the smaller act level.

                  Dont get me wrong EOTR line ups have been quite samey, indie/folk dominated in the past but I think they have gone along way to make it more varied this year, a bit more electronic based bands this year and some music with a bit more energy to it

                  ThingsThatFly @WhiteLightWhiteCity | 6 Sep '11, 16:17 | X
        • I see what you're saying

          I'd personally take 2008 or 2010's lineup and capacity over 2011's, but like you and GetOffMyLawn, those years were flukes for me in terms of all of *my* favourite artists playing. I suspect that there aren't enough good artists to suit the old capacity, so some sort of capacity increase is necessary. And I think the lineup they had this year was probably better for more people, just not for me.

          InfiniteJest @ThingsThatFly | 6 Sep '11, 13:29 | X
    • There's a hell of a "I shall have to think hard before I go there again" moan going on there at the moment

      Marvellously, in consecutive posts there's someone griping about too stringent security and someone griping about too lenient security. (The main one is "the Woods stage could have been from any festival". Well, y'know, Summer Sundae's main stage is flanked by trees on two sides, they don't play on that as a unique feature)

      simon_t @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 22:22 | X
      • I heard a woman saying on the way onto the site say,

        that it was like a 'proper festival' now because of the Woods Stage.

        JGJug @simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 22:27 | X
      • they are probably the people who stake out the garden stage with camping chairs all day the festival could do without them

        ThingsThatFly @simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 22:27 | X
        • I suspect most of them lament the day the Tipi stage became audible/visible to more than fifteen people

          Realistically, the rate that EOTR has been growing they'd need to expand so they could expand their booking range. Great as the year he curated the Friday was, nobody would noq pay £140 for a festival where Howe Gelb is second headliner. I really didn't think there was that much more human traffic at all, as anyone who saw some of the lack of crowds in the Big Top would concur. OH, BUT THERE WAS NOBODY ELSE ON AT THE SAME TIME AS JOANNA NEWSOM! Well, go and do something else, then, you've had three days of top music.

          simon_t @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 22:41 | X
          • yeah and joanna newsom started later than the other headliners

            so they had other music up to 22:30 which is pretty reasonable for a sunday at a festival and there was always the cinema tent or the woods to explore

            ThingsThatFly @simon_t | 5 Sep '11, 22:45 | X
          • I know a lot of the people posting there

            And I can assure you that they're the last people to sit at the Garden stage with chairs - they'll be rushing from stage to stage to catch as many bands as possible :). And they were all pretty vocal that the old-style Tipi wasn't working, and were very happy with the new one.

            I started that thread and it really wasn't my intention for people to moan, but try to offer constructive feedback - which Simon had specifically asked for in the programme when he talked about the capacity increase. Some people ARE moaning, but I think many are being constructively critical, and some are positive :)

            InfiniteJest @simon_t | 6 Sep '11, 13:23 | X
  • ban all teenagers?
    thats not really the attitude a festival goer should have. be more accepting. its a good festival with an awesomne diverse mix of people. maybe you should suggest to ban the jews while at it.

    Silverwood | 5 Sep '11, 20:54 | X
    • Hmm, now you mention it...

      I'd also like to ban all those wearing wooly jumpers with a dog/cat pattern on it.

      eltham @Silverwood | 5 Sep '11, 21:20 | X
    • Really that's the most impressive piece of hyperbole I've seen in a long time.

      You should be proud of yourself.

      TheoGB @Silverwood | 6 Sep '11, 17:11 | X
  • Not long back from my first ever EotR.

    Cracking weekend.

    Highlights:
    Joanna Newsom: 2nd best performance from her I have seen beaten only by the Ys tour at the Sage with the Northern Sinfonia orchestra behind her. Solo worked better than with the band I reckon.
    Allo Darlin: My new favourite band. Only got into them a couple of weeks ago but they were amazing live and they seem genuinely nice people. The bassist is the happiest man in music. So glad they got the crowd they did.
    Clap Your Hands Say Yeah: Love them and they played a good mix of my favourite songs plus some new ones which have got me excited for the 3rd album.
    The Fall: Brilliant and Mark E Smith was on top form.
    Okkervil River
    The Unthanks: From my neck of the woods and the only time Ive seen them I had to travel to Dorset. Stunning though.
    The Fresh & Onlys
    Brakes: So much fun. And they did Cheney twice which was amazing.
    Spending 2 hours on Saturday getting drunk in the carpark listening to Half Man Half Biscuit.
    The forest: the disco, the area with the fairy lights, the wonder lands, everything combined to make a unique experience at a festival.

    Lowlights:
    Missing Laura Marling (I did get to see all of Kurt Vile though so its not too bad)
    Missing Twin Shadow
    Not ever finding the comedy stage
    Worst sunburn I have ever had (and for a ginger bloke who burns on a quick walk down the shop in Sunderland, thats saying something)
    The Walkmen: I'll be in the minority but that was one of the worst performances by a band I have ever seen. Hate them.

    Apologies for going on a bit but really its just a great little festival and there's a 99% chance Ill be back next year aswell.

    mosesthemessiah | 5 Sep '11, 22:11 | X
    • I thought the walkmen were ok (though not good enough to stay past a few songs)

      but I couldnt help but notice, if you take away the music, the guy has an 80's hair metal voice, dont know how I never noticed that before

      ThingsThatFly @mosesthemessiah | 5 Sep '11, 22:16 | X
      • The Walkmen were fucking awesome.

        Not sure where the lack of love is coming from...

        GetOffMyLawn @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 22:49 | X
        • Not that you'd have expected much less

          but the volume of The Rat singalong was extraordinary.

          simon_t @GetOffMyLawn | 5 Sep '11, 23:11 | X
          • they supported Arcade Fire at Edinburgh Castle on Thursday night

            they didn't play The Rat

            guntrip @simon_t | 6 Sep '11, 13:07 | X
            • I've seen them many times

              and that was a really really good performance, probably the best I've seen. So if you didn't like that then its probably not worth trying again!

              Christophales @guntrip | 6 Sep '11, 13:53 | X
  • I went to the first four eotr festivals

    but not been to the last two (the line-ups haven't felt as essential to me unfortunately, but still quite good), but am curious as to how much the capacity has increased by, seeing as a couple of people have mentioned it?

    paulo13 | 5 Sep '11, 23:30 | X
    • I think it started off as 5000 tickets

      now its 8000 but it wasnt sudden jump theyve increased it slightly year on year, and as this year they added the woods stage and extended the site (which took over part of the former campsite) it didnt seem too crowded to me

      ThingsThatFly @paulo13 | 5 Sep '11, 23:42 | X
      • thanks!

        I think I remember it rising from 5,000 to 7,000 when I went (although the first year it was a lot less than it's 5,000 limit I'm sure). Doesn't sound too big still. Am curious about the woods stage though!

        paulo13 @ThingsThatFly | 5 Sep '11, 23:45 | X
      • I think it's 8,500...

        ...but with a guest list of 2,000 so the overall capacity is something like c. 10,000.

        The increase has led to people levels going from 'absolutely perfect' to 'the odd annoying queue here and there' so it's not exactly turned it into Latitude which went from 'pretty ideal' to 'almost as bad as Reading' when they doubled the capacity between 2007 and 2008..

        GetOffMyLawn @ThingsThatFly | 6 Sep '11, 08:37 | X
        • I heard 12000 on site

          Simon said that the capacity was 5000 in 2008 and earlier, and 7000 in 2009/10 (http://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=162740&st=40&p=3642896&#entry3642896). I think that must just be paying customers. This year it was "8500 adults" (http://www.virtualfestivals.com/latest/blog/10730)

          InfiniteJest @GetOffMyLawn | 6 Sep '11, 13:48 | X
          • its just over 10000

            thats including guest list, staff etc. This was a big talking point on the eotr forum, Simon confirmed it. 8500 tickets sold to punters

            Christophales @InfiniteJest | 6 Sep '11, 13:55 | X
  • my 2nd eotr

    and i thought it was just as great as the first! (last year)

    As others have said I thought the new stage and general layout worked really well.

    Highlights:
    - Mogwai (Big)
    - Josh T Pearson (Bants)
    - Dan Mangan (Singalong)
    - Wild Beasts (Groovy)
    - Tune-yards (Loops)
    - Tinariwen (IS OK!)
    - loads of other good musics. I basically enjoyed everything I saw.
    - The food! So much good stuff. Everything was NOM. Lots of fun had choosing each meal :)
    - Comedy! So much better than before - spent about an hour there on sat afternoon and laughed my arse off. Tony Law and Phil Kay both ruled.
    - Cinema! Caught a couple of things, including the amazing How To Train Your Dragon. Wish i was 6 years old so it could be my favourite film.
    - Forest Disco! Good times in the forest. Was the dancefloor area bigger this year? It could still do with being about twice as big again really, and as someone else said some 'dancier' (read: electronic) music later on would be good too. I think it would work best with the indie/rock and roll kinda stuff in the early evening (like 6-12am) and then more club-type stuff from 12-3 or something. idk.
    - The weather! Was worried looking at the forecasts before but couldnt have asked for much better really. In a funny coincidence I ended up using the poncho i bought EXACTLY one year before for the first time (before Iron and Wine, just as it started to rain, and then stopped raining just after i bought the poncho) at Josh Pearson (who is also an american dude with a big beard playing solo with a guitar).

    Lowlights:
    - erm.
    - The walk in was pretty rough.
    - Some people had very poor bar manners (got pushed in front of at the bars several times)

    tobythecat | 6 Sep '11, 11:16 | X
  • My First EOTR

    Was a great little festival. No overcrowding that could see, barely any queues of note for any bars or food outlets. Weather held brilliantly until the Sunday evening, but was indoors for the most part anyway then.

    Highlights for me
    Allo Darlin' - never heard their stuff, was blown away
    Beirut - Tremendous as always, the solo encore was amazing
    Kurt Vile - My wife and I had seen Laura Marling before, so checked him out. Glad I did, brilliant
    M Ward and Okkervil River on teh Gardens stage saturday night
    The Garden stage was just a great setting
    Doug Paisley in the Tipi on Sunday evening - good bants and lovely chilled stuff
    Brakes - Top TOP set (No pineapple though!!)
    Other Lives - just superb
    The cider bus
    The Story food!!!!

    Low lights
    Wild Beasts - what is all the fuss about? Left after about 20 minutes. Really boring
    Wild Nothings - Again, a little dull
    Missing Mogwai cos my wife didn't want to see more of the "post rock nonsense" - serves me right for forcing too much Explosions in the sky on her
    Missing Joanna Newsome cos my wife had a bad back (due to being 10 weeks pregnant) so we left early

    Gringo | 6 Sep '11, 12:22 | X
    • Brakes def played

      Procupine/Pineapple in the Big Top.

      JimmyHuntspill @Gringo | 6 Sep '11, 12:54 | X
      • No, I meant a physical Pineapple

        When I've seen them before, they normally lob one out into the crowd

        Gringo @JimmyHuntspill | 6 Sep '11, 12:55 | X
        • Oh I see.

          Fair enough.

          Just got tickets for next year. Sweet.

          JimmyHuntspill @Gringo | 6 Sep '11, 12:59 | X
    • Sounds like you'd be better off going without your wife next time.

      petemania @Gringo | 6 Sep '11, 14:00 | X
      Gringo this'd this
      • HAHAHAHA

        I'll pass that on, although I did enjoy Okkervil River, I believe I missed out on Mogwai

        Gringo @petemania | 6 Sep '11, 15:25 | X
  • My fourth time

    It's still the best festival around, but this time wasn't quite as magical as the others. The capacity increase was fine in terms of numbers, but there was a noticable increase in the wanker quotient: I saw toilets trashed and heard that some of the woods art was trashed - this sort of thing never used to happen. Seemed to be more people who were there "to be at a festival" or to get loud and drunk with their mates, rather than just to dig on the amazing music.

    That said: still far fewer wankers (and more good people) than anywhere else, the toilets were better than most places, the food was uniformly amazing and the lineup was good from top to bottom. Last year was amazing because 4 or 5 of my favourite bands played, this year there was more quality right through the lineups, without being (for me) any amazing standouts.

    Musical highlights:
    Wild Beasts
    Allo Darlin'
    Mogwai
    Other Lives
    John Grant
    Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
    The Black Angels
    Tune-Yards
    Brakes
    Leisure Society
    Midlake

    Not as good as I hoped:
    Phosphorescent (others raved, I preferred his full-band show last year)
    Best Coast
    Walkmen (I don't know why, even though I liked the songs, it just didn't seem like a great gig, for some reason. I left before The Rat, though).

    InfiniteJest | 6 Sep '11, 13:36 | X
    • I didn't want to moan about the nobs in the OP

      as they paled in insignificance to the brilliance of the festival but, my god, there were some absolute c**tbuckets next to us in the campsite. They were up at 4am pretty much shouting at each other "NAH MATE, YEAH MATE, INNIT, FUCKIN ELL MATE, INNIT." and after someone asked if they had any weed they were saying things like "No mate, I don't have any for you, but I'll bash your head in." (after he had gone). Dicks.

      eltham @InfiniteJest | 6 Sep '11, 14:37 | X
      • I probably

        Should have posted all the good stuff first, and then had a moan about the (to be honest, very few) nobs who were there. Because you're right, the bad parts were so small compared to the overall great parts.

        InfiniteJest @eltham | 6 Sep '11, 16:03 | X
        • I know I shouldn't get involved in festival boards as all of them are magnets for moaners

          but the EOTR board today is full of "it's changed beyond recognition, I'm not immediately buying an early bird as I always have" gripers. EOTR isn't going to contract again because some people thought the Woods stage wasn't unique looking enough (while elsewhere praising Newsom, someone who'd never have played a £110 5,000 capacity festival), and for everyone claiming it was too overcrowded and thus different there's as many people (myself included) who hardly noticed any difference. And as people have said on here, if you thought it was too busy and overpopulated with twats, do you not go to any other largeish festivals?

          simon_t @InfiniteJest | 6 Sep '11, 16:10 | X
  • been every year but one

    and it is still the best (may go to No Direction Home instead next year though for a change). Capacity increase was noticable in the forest disco and the bottleneck by the Peacock bar, but that was about it.
    Bob Log was amazing as ever (particularly the Tipi set), loads of bands had their a-game out as a result of genuine joy at playing such a brilliant festival (has anyone ever seen so much chat and smiling from Mogwai?). New comedy area was ace (not all the comedy was though), whole area around the croquet was beautiful. Food and drink great as ever.
    The worst thing about the changes, by a mile, was getting in and out. They really have to sort that path out it was pretty nasty. Doubt the farmer owning the adjacent field was too happy about people going round the side either! Woods stage did its job, like many people though i couldnt help but think most of the bands on there would have been enhanced by being on the garden stage (and a lot of people probably bought a ticket with the anticpitation of joanna, mogwai et al. on the garden stage).
    Musically, Bo Ningen, Mogwai, HEALTH, Joanna, Drum Eyes, Wild Beasts, The Walkmen, Black Angels, Tune-yards and CYHSY all nailed it for me.

    Christophales | 6 Sep '11, 14:05 | X
    • also

      did anyone see the two girls with the puppet show in their dress in what was the old comedy building? Genuinely unsettling, going to be having nightmares about that for weeks

      Christophales @Christophales | 6 Sep '11, 14:07 | X
  • Just had an email from the festival

    warning that the 2012 early bird allocation will probably sell out within hours.

    simon_t | 6 Sep '11, 14:24 | X
    • Sold out now

      I guess people aren't that bothered by the new stage and the increased capacity afterall.

      JohnM @simon_t | 6 Sep '11, 17:28 | X
  • My first time

    And I couldn't have enjoyed it more. I felt like the capacity was just right. You need an atmosphere as well as having the numbers at manageable levels.

    I particularly enjoyed Okkervil, Beirut, CYHSY, 'Allo Darlin' (What a brilliant atmosphere between band and audience. Really touching), Wild Beasts, Laura Marling, Willy Mason, playing Pucket, the amazing organic burgers, the equally amazing bhatti wraps, hot cider when it got a bit chilly and the general ambeince of the woods and the Garden Stage. What a gorgeous place to experience live music.

    My only gripe would be the pathway into the site is ridiculous. How I didn't stumble over a rock and crack my face I really don't know. Also, while I appreciate the family friendly vibe, why don't people just take their kids on an actual holiday that they would enjoy? Weirdly vast amount of children running around.

    Oh and Emmy The Great just did not work for me. I love those songs on record but I was just completely bored throughout the set.

    ThatGumYouLiked | 6 Sep '11, 15:40 | X
  • Once again a brilliant weekend.

    Third time for me at EOTR. I thought the crowd increase was fine, and whilst I loved the smaller capacity in previous years it'd be a bit selfish to stop others seeing such a great festival (and also to expect the organisers to make less of a profit).

    Highlights:
    - Josh T Pearson was simply incredible, one of the best sets in a long time. Second row dead centre, with some light rain and the evening dusk. He could have played for three hours and I wouldn't complain.
    - The food was uniformly excellent, Pie Minister is amazing.
    - The Fall were surprisingly enjoyable, I think it helped that their sound was pretty good compared to the two previous occasions I saw them.
    - Really enjoyed the Walkmen, they made an impressive racket and of course the singalong to the Rat was immense.
    - Okkervil River performed a strong set.
    - Helping a guy called Casper making the crowd stand up for James Yorkston's tipi tent set...due to the sitting down people nobody else could get into the tent.
    - The incredible selection of alcohol. Still recovering as a result.
    - too many positives to list them all here.

    Downsides:
    Only catching 20 minutes of Mogwai as i've seen them three times this year so i went to see OR with my friends.
    There were a few wankers, but barely any really especially compared to say Glastonbury.
    - due to a knacked knee I had to limp about over the weekend.

    Such a great festival, will have to go again next year.

    godspeed_steve83 | 6 Sep '11, 15:43 | X
  • think it's the third year i've been

    it was fucking excellent. For me the Fall was the set of the weekend, i've seen them many times and they seem to have hit another peak. Killer version of 'white lightning'.
    little bit bigger than i was expecting and only bothered with the woods stage for j newsom, she was pretty great.
    loved woods, kurt vile, fresh & onlys, megafaun, m ward, allo darlin. sad to miss phosphorescent though he's better with a band. apparently other lives were great but missed that too.
    bit sad there was no jeff lewis / wave pictures / kimya / hayman on the bill but that's just me being a dick.
    played a little set by the croquet lawn, that was fun. I have a beard and enjoyed the ale. And disco on sat night was blinding.

    original_fireplace | 6 Sep '11, 15:51 | X
    • Phosphorescent

      There is no way that Phosphorescent is better with a band. He is awesome solo and SO BORING with a band!

      Literally kills his set for me.

      Anthonyc @original_fireplace | 6 Sep '11, 16:01 | X
  • Three things..

    - Are the festival organisers cool with security guards shining lasers into the eyes of people smoking in the big top? Im not a smoker but got a couple in the eyes from poor aiming on people next to me. Not really that into it.

    - Are Other Lives fucking amazing? Yes. Yes they are.

    - Have Dry the river bought a small yaucht and sailed it up their own collective arsehole?

    meadymeady | 6 Sep '11, 16:45 | X
  • Twin Shadow

    was incredible. I wasn't expecting much given the live stuff I have heard in the past, but that set was so great. His voice is really coming into its own and his band are really neat. His solos are getting deadly too. Awesome stuff.

    Austra were really good as well. Sounded almost identical to the record but all consuming. Again - vocally stunning - Stelmanis' voice is the real thing.

    The sound in the big toip tent was great. The sound on the main stage was consistently ruined by overly big swampy bass - especially Wild Beats, no need for it at all. Not sure why that was. Luckily it wasn't there for Mogwai or that would have been carnage. Beautifully pretty set from them too, possibly one of my favourite times I have seen them. San Pedro is a bit of a real rocker isn't it?

    That's pretty much all I have to add. Really lovely festival. I liked that it wasn't overcrowded at all, always a lot of space around and none of that herds-of-cattle-like feeling bigger festivals have - even Green Man has got a bit like that.

    I may well have been one of those middle class families. Dunno - me & Wife & 3-year old. Seems liek half the audience was made up of that demographic. Was pretty quiet SUnday afternoon when all the families had left. Bit of a raw deal for bands to be playign to half empty fields the whole time.

    GoatmeatMF | 6 Sep '11, 17:20 | X
    • Wooden Shjips

      forgot to say how amazing this band are live. I guess you have to like repetitive psych-blues. but even so. "BEST BAND EVER!" as I heard some guy shout at the end.

      Just about, yeah.

      GoatmeatMF @GoatmeatMF | 6 Sep '11, 17:43 | X
  • My 1st time

    And I thought it was brilliant! Really, an excellent little festival. The site was very attractive (particularly the Garden/forest areas), the weather was mostly great, food tasty etc.... Lots more other positives too. The only bad feature that i would pick out was how cold it got at night, but that can't really be helped. It certainly didn't feel overcrowded, as people on the efestivals forum seem to think, but i suppose i don't know what it was like before. Certainly more intimate and less crowded than Glastonbury for example.

    Musically, some of the highlights were Tune Yards, Bo Ningen (brilliant ending to their set), Health, Gruff Rhys, Wooden Shjips, Mogwai (FEAR SATAN - sublime), Josh T Pearson (remarkable entertainer skills, plus i met him after), and Brakes (who were probably the most fun of the whole festival, and managed to play 30 songs in about an hour). Lots of other things i saw bits of or sat on the grass near the back off, which was also very nice.

    Would definitely go back again, seems like a real treat of a festival. Going to keep an eye on No Direction Home too...

    TJ-Dizzle | 6 Sep '11, 17:23 | X
  • Growlers!

    2nd year in a row for me and think it is still a great festival. Don't have much to compare it to as i haven't been to another festival since early 90's but christ what are people complaining about??? Beards.....huh? Drank good booze, ate good food, watched some great bands and laughed my arse off for 3 days. Life's what you make it dudes.
    Now, anyone else see the Growlers late night Friday in the Tipi Stage? Stone.Cold Geniusness.x

    nicknackno | 6 Sep '11, 17:32 | X
    • Getting down to

      the lexington tomorrow for some more...

      meadymeady @nicknackno | 6 Sep '11, 18:04 | X
      meadymeady this'd this
    • Growlers on Friday

      Yes. Unusual make-up decisions, to say the least.

      mattl8888 @nicknackno | 6 Sep '11, 19:18 | X
  • First time for me.

    It was a strange festival. There were some great bands playing notably Bo Ningen, The Fall, The Growlers, Mogwai, and especially Kurt Vile
    But I thought the crowd were really dull.
    I don't want a festival to be full of idiots and wankers either but End of The Road was more like a church fete.

    LittleFellas | 6 Sep '11, 17:40 | X
    • I didn't see any of those

      Other than Mogwai. And agree that the Mogwai crowd was a bit quiet. There were some much more responsive crowds though - John Grant got a great response, Allo Darlin', some others that I saw. But yeah, it can be a bit quiet overall.

      InfiniteJest @LittleFellas | 9 Sep '11, 16:46 | X
      • i

        like that. Not the sort of the music for twats. If anything, it could have been quieter with the talking over some of the music.

        zahidf @InfiniteJest | 9 Sep '11, 17:02 | X
  • does anyone have an approximate Mogwai setlist btw?

    I only actually know 2 of their albums and a few other assorted songs, but that set made me want everything they've ever done.

    OceanStorm | 6 Sep '11, 19:28 | X
    • For all your Mogwai needs

      http://youngteam.co.uk/brightlight/eng/gig030911.php

      Sarlacc @OceanStorm | 9 Sep '11, 13:14 | X
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