Why do DiSers judge festival-goers with such prejudice?
Reactions to Glastonbury/Reading/T in the Park/whatever British festival you care to mention: "Oh, he wears that item of clothing, he speaks in that accent, he must be a twat."
Just from when people get interviewed on the TV, though? You haven't met the buggers. I know it's irritating to hear people talking like Victorian public schoolboys in 2011, but I doubt they chose their upbringing and accent from a list at birth. If it's for liking a band you consider to be shit though, in traditional DiS style, I say "fair enough."
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I guess it might be because
festivals are now full of people who really aren't that interested in music, but want to cross Glasto/Reading/Bestival whatever off their life experience list.
As for the people though it is wrong to judge. But to be honest, hipsters (I think we know what I mean) make me embarassed to call myself a fan of alternative culture, and those teenagers with jeans rolled up above their boat shoes make me cringe.
I realise I sound like a total twat.
first the JCQ, then Festival Goers
we're judging monsters, all of us
FREE HUGS
because whenever i've been to a festival,
i've had the suffocating sensation of being surrounded by utter cunts. it's not about being a snob, it's about encountering people whose company you do not care to enjoy in this context. basically, people trying their hardest to HAVE A GOOD TIME.
same goes for all festival footage. although it's hard for anyone with easy-going charm to come across over the telly when you've got all the cameras trained on jemima standing on her boyfriends shoulder's, aviators, baggy vest, headband and neon face-paint at full throttle.
any wit sort of gets lost amongst the overspill of idiocy.
actually, i'm just a snob who doesn't like a lot of people in these environments, cheers.
funnily enough....
i'd never dislike someone just for liking a band i don't like. now that IS being a snob.
i like politeness, and people aren't polite at festivals. they just care about their own FESTIVAL EXPERIENCE, and don't care much for the plight of others. in my experience.
*wayfarers
other than that, as you were...
the forced fun
is deffo what makes it annoying, can feel like you're on a massive team-building exercise
By the time you reach adulthood you should have acquired the ability to judge whether someone is or isn't an utter cunt within 3 seconds of looking at them or hearing them speak.
If you haven't picked up that skill then it's just bad luck for you I'm afraid.
if, the first time they speak to you, they address you as 'mate'
you know.
mate's
not the problem. it's 'bud' and 'pal'
oh those people are on my list
pretty near the top
so
that's 90% of Scotland then?
'hello' is fine
'hi' 'alright?' 'how's it going?' all work
just don't want someone who doesn't know me to call me their mate.
chief
has been added to the list
so be it, fella.
I'm not your buddy, guy
fair enough, chap
He's not your guy, friend
I'M NOT YOUR FRIEND, BUDDY
I just done a 'lol' at the notion of 'hello' being 'QUITE POSH'.
i don't get offended
it just mildly annoys me
its a sliding scale
utter cunt is someone who puts his arm over your shoulder, shouts in your ear and spills beer on you while he's doing it
theres a difference between having a good time on drugs/drink
and a sweaty dickwad in a comedy topman t-shirt getting spittle in your ear while telling you 'this national lot are fuckin mint innit mate'
:D
fantastic.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/cathal05/roflbot3.jpg
I'd say an "utter cunt"
is someone who agrees to sell you a record via a website and then never sends it nor replies to your messages.
To be fair
no one round my way really says 'mate' so when I do hear it I find it mildly annoying too. It doesn't bother me that much really though.
-"Alright, how's it going?"
Actually
I suppose 'man' kind of takes the place of 'mate' round here. I live in the 1960s, but I like it that way.
???
Is this in relation to me saying "man" instead of "mate"?
*confused face*
but normally its the middle classes who are the worst
as in, enough disposable income to go to a festival for a couple of hundred quid despite not really liking any of the music an just wanting to get drunk in a field.
Anyone who thinks saying "mate" is a working-class thing probably needs to go and meet some working-class people.
I don't understand what's happening now.
I am suspicious of anyone that greets me with 'friend' or 'my friend'...
I would say that in the majority of cases, this person isn't in fact your friend and could even mean you harm.
"Good evening friend"
"Hello my friend."
Such comments are almost always made by people who aren't very friendly.
or want to sell you something. the worst is the cunt
in the gilette ads. 'hey there buddy, hows your shave?'. 'errrrm, i'm in a towel, in a gym, stop touching me'
if he whooped at me when i was having a shave i'd cut him with my rubbish disposable razor
This...
...a thousand million times over. Whooping little bellend. Every time I see that advert, I pray that the bloke who gets him in a headlock accidentally snaps his neck like a twig.
I am always left disappointed.
Actually, come to think of it...
...where is the challenge aspect of this Proglide Challenge? They're just trying another razor. In an ideal world, the challenge would be to not lacerate yourself mid-shave due to fits of laughter when they release an amourous rhino into the room to roger Little Chief Whooping Arse into submission.
Agreed with what's said above, and also people talking at festivals and gigs
it should just be made illegal
thats just silly
no it isn't
the amount of sets that are rendered pointless by people talking at shows or festivals is horrible, this is my number one reason why I don't go to gigs in London much anymore
If the band is shit,
go somewhere else?
exactly
not everyone will have the same opinion as you.
No I don't think crowd should be silent, but when people just overtly talk over bands and aren't even listening it is the most infuriating thing for people who are actually trying to watch the band.
It's really weird when people have paid to go to a specific gig and then talk all the way through the headline act.
WHY ARE YOU HERE?
If YOU think the band is shit.
Most other people have paid to see a band they like.
People who talk through gigs are utter cunts.
The worst is people who make the effort to get near the front
then talk. I don't mean the odd word to each other. i mean full on conversations. Even if it happens to be a very loud gig and you can't hear them, I still want to punch them in the head.
Obviously people talking at festivals and gigs shouldn't be banned in itself
...but if you are going to face away from the stage and talk for the duration, DON'T GO DOWN THE FRONT. That's one change I have noticed in recent years. The front used to be the band's more hardcore fans, now it's commonplace for someone to manoeuvre themselves in front of you just before or just as a band start playing, then turn around to face away from the stage and gas for the duration. Which when (to take one example) the main stage sound is as quiet as it was at Reading this year is an absolute pain in the arse.
And obviously this isn't a classroom or anything. I frequently turn to a friend at a gig, even near the front, if there's a few words worth saying for whatever reason. There's a difference between that and yabbering incessantly.
All this said, I don't buy the argument that most people at festivals aren't into music. It's only the same argument as the one that says that if you're somewhere with 99 nice people and one idiot, it's the idiot you're going to notice.
have fun watching Pendulum at Reading, cunts.
If you are the sort of
cunt that volunteers to be interviewed on TV during a music fest, you probably are a cunt.
Love love love those people that go to festivals, aren't particularly interested in the music
and spend most of the time at their campsite drinking lukewarm larger. They're helping to pay for the festival, but not contributing to the crowds. Legends.
If you want a ticket
save up...
At my festival I'd have a separate camping site for those guys
where all their common practices were encouraged: sitting around listening to Toploader & Ocean Colour Scene on their portable speakers, gathering around a small fire singing along to the guy in a trilby playing Wonderwall on his guitar, erecting one of those white-cover marquee things and falling asleep inside on a deck chair with a can of fosters in the holder etc.
There would be an exclusive stage where 2 piss poor bands that they had heard of played every night, and a silent disco afterwards. They love silent discos.
Ticket prices would naturally be slightly higher for this privilege, and the rest of the festival goers would get far more bang for their buck as a result of their stupidity.
Them not buying a ticket won't help your inability to afford it
unless they're artificially jacking the price such that the festival makes large profits, which seems unlikely.
and while we're on the subject
CLAPPING! OH, CLAPPING!
People are so fucking EAGER to clap along to anything and everything, songs that don't even require it or it doesn't fit or should be a quiet/intimate moment, and when they do clap, they almost always end up clapping out of time, because none of them have a clue about the music they are witnessing, and they look so fucking pleased with themselves while they're clapping, clap, clap fucking CLAP CLAP CLAP FUCK OFF!
some bellend tried to start a group clap at latitude last year
at dirty projectors. some people.
hah exactly!
that sort of nonsense to bands that clearly have no standard 4/4 rhythms "lets have a clap FESTIVAL 2011 YEAHHHHHH!"
i think it's because the bum sons had been on before
and i could hear that insistant four to the floor drum from my tent.
I've been told Metallica mock their British fans for their inability to clap in time with the music.
They did a joke about that at Sonisphere.
Sorry for the physics lesson but
the reason people sound like they are clapping out of time is because of where they are, where the band is, where you are, and the speed of sound. Unless they are right beside you, in which case they are clap happy cunts
Na, most people actually have an atrocious sense of timing.
And everybody speeds up!
I don't get the hatred of clapping.
It's just a nice bit of interaction, usually encouraged by the band. Who cares?
In fact, PEOPLE WHO: comment on youtube videos of gigs they weren't at
complaining that the audience had the audacity to clap along to something. "OMG IT RUINS IT." Nah, I was there pal and it created quite a nice atmosphere.
no see, that's a key difference
I have no problem when its encouraged by the band, I'm not a fucking fun-nazi, but a lot of the time people take it upon themselves to clap at entirely random and inappropriate intervals which almost always just distracts from the music being played.
I've never met a Nazi who was any fun.
Okay, maybe once.
So clapping is acceptable when it's been approved by the band. How far in advance of the gig should this be? I'd hate to think people might be clapping without permission
Lighten up!
The attitudes of some people on here are hilarious!
Is it all festivals that are hated or just the UK's big commercial monsters?
In my experience; the quiet, serene and intricate performances are generally well observed at the festivals I frequent. Use a bit of common sense though! You are at an outdoor event with thousands and thousands of people. People are leaving behind the monotony of every day life to enjoy a weekend of fun with friends. They want to enjoy the music, scenery, company, food, drink and whatever other things are going on.
To expect to have a silent and intimate experience in the middle of a field is ridiculous. Use your noodle, you know what you're signing up for.
As for the people moaning about over friendly patrons - get a grip. Yes, if people are over stepping the boundary then tell them to behave, I wouldn't let the fact that somebody called me "mate", "bud" or "pal" ruin my weekend. If you do then you're far too over sensitive.
There's no excuse for being a prick but there are plenty of festivals that serve a respectful, fun loving, friendly and polite crowd.
If you go to TITP / V etc you should expect a high turn out of idiots and pissed up kids. Try the other festivals instead. To be honest, I can't imagine the people from DiS attending these events anyway.
I think the general annoyance is that
people like to think they're at a 'music festival' as in, going to see music live in one place, and then they're surrounded by people who seem to have other ideas. It's not just TITP/V/Reading, it happened a few times at Field Day last month too.
I agree...
That would be a total pain, I think that's the chance you take with these little "boutique"(?) festivals. There are definitely parallels to that kinda thing up here in Glasgow too.
These things seem to besieged by poseurs who do turn up just to strut around. I notice it at things up here but I can imagine it's terrible in London.
I guess there's not much you can do at these things other than enjoy yourself to the best of your abilities. There's always plebs at gigs, festivals and every other part of life. Finding a good spot, going with some good friends and standing with a cold beer certainly help.
I'm in glasgow
looking forward to reporting back from Electric Frog next weekend ;)
Should be a belter...
...this is a good example of what we are talking about I think.
There'll be plenty of regular music fans having a good time, a smattering of out their face party goers and a large handful of faux accented Art School types there who are just there to be seen, pout and strut.
I know who I'd personally find more annoying. Just move them out the way and get on with having a cracking weekend.
I can't speak for anyone else here
but I just like judging people. They don't even have to be at festivals.
Don't get me wrong...
Me too. There's nothing wrong with a bit of pretentiousness internally or amongst friends. That's part of the fun of liking the music we do - it's probably the reason this community has been going so long.
I think it's how you deal with the arseholes that determines the outcome of your experience at these things. You can either get wound up, angry and pissed off at everything or you can laugh at all the fools making an arse of it, get a round in, shake your toosh and have a laugh.
DiSers judge everything.
Nowt wrong with
taking your own bodyweight in cheap amphetamines and passing out at the back of a tent waiting for Sonic Youth to come on.
tent?
chalet, mate, CHALET.
I like most people that go to festivals
as long as they dont act anti social then I have no problem with them at all, I like a diverse crowd & I really don't give 2 shits if they like music or not as long as they don't dampen the atmos.
there's
a worrying lack of self awareness about this thread.
I dislike people I see on TV enjoying themselves at festivals for two reasons:
(1) They're at a festival and I'm not (which reminds me that they bothered to get the tickets where as I either couldn't or was to too lazy to thus I reproach myself and hate them for it.)
(2)I believe that I somehow have more reason to be at a music festival owing to a (misguided) belief that I 'love Music' more than they do (so even though I'm not there I can feel superior in the belief that they shouldn't be anyway).
It's jealousy basically and arrogance. I think I'm more 'learned' than them and hence more entitled and so I dislike the fact that they're having better time than me even though they shouldn't be.
Perhaps a lapsed Catholic feels the same way when they see lots of people going into church fates. They might think they shouldn't be there because that place is for meant them even though they can't be arsed to go anymore and they don't really 'understand' the 'importance' of the place.
re: the going to the front and then chatting thing
I'm pretty sure that 99% of the time, it's because there's an act on afterwards that they want to see and they're staking their place at the front early.
Still a cuntish thing to do.
better looking and more charismatic, popular people
having lots of fun.
this annoys people here.
not sure that's the point here
but yeah... I'm pretty sure that everyone in the world EVER is annoyed by better looking, more charismatic & more popular people than themselves.
I'd like to go to a music festival
Where the emphasis on music and fun, because that's what I've paid for. I didn't pay £185 to have some douchebag in a Superdry shirt jump into the moshpit and start punching people in the face because he has something to prove. You don't need to pay £185 to be a dickhead for a weekend, just get yourself a bottle of Frosty Jacks and go wild.
Utter wankers - that's why.
For example: I could barely hear Wild Beasts quite near the front at Field Day as everyone was just chatting. One guy spent the first half-dozen songs on his phone telling his friend how great The Wild Beasts are. Odd behaviour?
They're not music fans - they're festival fans. The key point is this: summer is now called by the media 'festival season' - people are just bloody obsessed with having to be at festivals.
Not had this trouble at Primavera Sound though so it's probably confined to (mostly) to the UK.
Spanish crowds are notoriously chatty,
and it tends to be in a way that it more noticeable than the comparitively monotonous British accent.
to answer to OP
idk. I know a lot of people on here don't like those whose dress sense is a bit outré. Clothes are a bit of a red herring in my opinion, you get people at festivals who could be on lookbook.nu but are just lovely, and dickheads in jeans and band tees.
wow
that site is just pure comedy gold. Can't believe I hadn't heard of it before...
I find it interesting
but the people who get voted up and appear on the front page often seem to be there more by virtue of their looks/figure than their dress sense.
Every festival has it's fair share of absolute wankers.
Reading/Leeds is a top contender, mainly due to the amount of people who don't have a problem with Fearne Cotton attending year on year.
Even Hevy Fest, which was brilliant people/band wise had it's fair share. For every few people there who were fine, there was one or two people who brought 'Dropdead' or 'Honor Over Glory' vests and were absolute wank stains.
Because judging people
gets me through the day
Festivals
I havent been to a festival for years and there is nothing about them now that makes me want to go. The organisers have opened the big ones up into a free for all that with more mainsteam chart music - N Dubs ffs ??? Beyonce ??? - so more bods will go = more cash for the organisers ! So it means there are loads who go now who dont know fuckin thing about decent music and go cos everyone is doing it. From watching it on the tv, it gets tiring seeing the girls on the shoulders in a bid to get themselves on film - and thats one of the problems. You are supposed to go and listen and watch the bands, not try and get yourselves on tv you fuckwits !
I think another problem is the fact that students have all become mainstream now. When did they all start dressing like Top Man/ Top Shop dummies ????? Seriously, lads in skinny jeans, girls in skirts with tights or skinny jeans and slip ons. These days I think most students come from the same identikit. However, this discussion is probably for another forum..................!
I DID NOT INTEND TO THIS THIS.
1) Beyonce is awesome.
2) I am a smallish girl, and if I'm at a festival and have a dude there who is willing to let me go on his shoulders, THEN I WILL. Because that way I can see for five minutes, which is always nice.
3) If I'm not allowed to wear skirts, tights, or jeans, what is okay with you? THIS IS A CONCERN.
large mainstream festivals booking large mainstream artists like Beyonce?
perish the thought
the forum you're looking for is byeckthingswerebetterinmyday.com
i forget that your music taste is more valid then other peoples music taste
And that your idea of enjoying a festival is the only right way, and that tis only your way and no other when it comes to the way a festival is booked
Remember if you don't like what's on stage c then visit stage d and if you don't enjoy the look of the festival at all then go to another one that caters more to you, its a good thing that the is a festival for everyone, they are great fun for the most part and a sutable substitute to a holiday, its not just people like you who have a right to enjoy them. And from personal experiance the are many ways to enjoy a festival, u don't have to go there with the intention of fully appreciating music you can be just going to party with your friends..... Or absorbing the atmosphere, as I said earlier as long as it isn't anti social then I don't care what they're there for. And what does fashion matter ffs
are you painting me as a disser or a festival goer?
going on someones shoulders just to get on tv
or maybe so they can see the stage better ????????????
'all these dickheads wearing skinny jeans'
you mean like most of us probably ? cos it's mainstream fashion ? it's not offensive, srsly.
Going on someone's shoulders at a gig for WHATEVER reason
is massively cunty.
cant be bothered to read this thread
All I know is a flaming love going to festivals as often as possible, which is never often enough. I have a lot of fun. I like fun. Fun is good
Cheer up you miserable cunts.
Rules, rules... so many rules. Let people be people. I hate rules at festivals. Hence why Glasto is the only one i can be fucked with these days.
I do like the 'do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't hurt the cows' vibe
the police seem to follow that aesthetic too (unless it's violent or regards theft) once I was smoking something I shouldn't of been and an officer went over to me and asked how my festival has been so far then left :)
Because its all about adding photos to facebook
updating your 'festival wardrobbe' so your pictures will look mega wikkid
ticking the 'glastonbury' box of youre to do list and making sure you have plenty of photos to CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE
having your photo taken in front of kings of leon/vampir eweekend/ other dross band so you can bang on to people how it was LIFE CHANGING
before pissing of to your tent to drink and take pictures of you being bored on a chair but telling everyone how WILD it was
Bloody hate festivals
you sound like a bundle of fucking joy
The picture of me at Leeds 2005 dressed as a !!neon rave otter!!
makes your sarcastic putdown void
but goes further to paint hypocrit on your grumpy face in giant neon letters
Theres not really a picture of me as an otter
I sat at home playing Morrowind while everyone else went to have fun and get laid
you should try dressing as a neon rave otter
you might find it's what you've been missing all your life...
dear people behind me
you talked completely through a set, very loudly, about the set without ever stopping to listen to it, and then concluded legendary set at the end. You don't really like music do you? Or did you think the rest of us around us needed your constant commentary about what a guitar is and what the members of the band are actually doing. Oh my he's playing a guitar! Your ability to stretch that out for whole songs was impressive.
Just had to get that out of my system.