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Maybe a bit ubiquitous BUT gotdam every time I listen to the actual song and block out the nonsense I am reminded of its purity.
Bonham puttin in work, then that riff/those vocals, CLASSSSSSIC. I think I hate you if you hate this.
don't tell my dad.
so you can vote.
Dont stop short of the coda though, its perfection.
bit boring until the guitar solo which is good but guitar solos are inherently good... that drum fill is aces though and it gets fun in the big pomp bit at the end. okay from me.
it's no war pigs though eh.
GENERALS GATHERED IN THEIR MASSES JUST LIKE WITCHES AT BLACK MASSES
what's a song where bonham really gives it some? should probably have an idea of what he was like if nothing else.
in control he was, how he stayed within the confines of the song. This is probably why he's considered the greatest *rock* drummer of all time. He had the technical chops to dig anywhere and do anything, but its how he kept the groove, his impeccable feel, the use of force when needed, the ability to switch styles, and the creativity to do a different fill just about every time.
Good Times Bad Times is an awesome and quick JB showcase
Love the groove he brings on Fool In The Rain, this is probably my favorite style of drums, Bernard Purdie (did some drums for Steely Dan) was the master of this style. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgAFoyIgskY
But this is my favorite JB drum track:
Achilles Last Stand
I am so glad that you have identified Achilles last stand, its possibly my favourate rock song - i love the way how it introduces other patterns throughout its length. The rhythm and pace constantly grounding the song and preventing it from ever becoming over indulgent.
The drums fills are tops throughout it. Love the machine gun snares about 4 minutes in. Yah just a pretty perfect song all around, just like Stairway.
Go on youtube and watch some videos of John Bonham soloing live. Totally improvised, masterful technique. In fact, don't just listen to his solos, listen to him live full stop. He pulls out a lot of very tasty, very controlled fills that completely he enhances what he's playing and flavours it wonderfully without disappearing on a Keith Moon ego trip.
Peart and Bruford, as good as they are, practice the shit out of their parts and hardly ever deviate from them live. The solo that Neil Peart does at every show is usually cobbled together from riffs and licks that he's practiced his ass off. With Bonham, he might not have been a masterful technician, but it was conducted on the fly and in my opinion, that's what makes him a better musician.
it's pretty unfair to say Bruford never deviated from his learnt parts
I wouldn't even begin to consider listening to anything by Neil Peart though so I can't comment
Didn't know Bruford was in King Crimson, was talking about what he did in Yes because I'm more familiar with it and it's more wanky and therefore proves my point.
And what I mean to say is that there's a difference between sitting down, writing and practicing very precise parts and being able to sit down and shit out a masterful take off the top of your head. They're different styles of playing. Of course it's silly to say that Bruford would never deviate, but in terms of their playstyle, I see them as being able to write complex music if they sit down and practice the shit out of it. Which is good, but it sounds very contrived. Bonham just sounds natural and in control to me, which makes me think he's the better musician.
makes me want to stab knitting needles through my eardrums. The precursor to every horrible hair metal voice ever. Could probably listen to Zeppelin again if his vocals were removed.
if he sang about shit other than Middle Earth and his cock
I dont know if its covered much over here, I would guess that it is. I know its basically the first song anyone learns on guitar though.
Just try not to think of Rolf Harris!
and I certainly prefer the first 6 minutes to the last 2, it all gets a bit silly and shit imo!
I dont know whats silly about this at all?
In order to justify myself I'd probably have to listen to it again, and I can't be assed
Just goes a bit OTT I guess
I love how it all comes crashing together.
I think I still stand by my first comment of Class though, maybe
but it would be ok if I never heard it again.
I like the Richard Cheese version. He sings 'purchasing a stairway to heaven' and 'if there's a bustle in your hedgerow, CALL THE GARDENER!'
Love the bit in Rolf's version where he sings "Ooohhh, and it makes me wonder - how does it affect you fellas?"
and I particularly hate 5.56 onwards. So it's an "ass" from me.
It's pretty much the only Led Zep I'd voluntarily listen to. Kashmir and Whole Lotta Love have good riffs, but I get bored about 30 seconds into each. Immigrant Song's good, actually, I listen to that occasionally. But yeah, I'm basically a die-hard Zep fan's worst nightmare.
I also still really, really, really like DJ Earworm's Stairway to Bootleg Heaven.
this on the other hand
But that's not the discussion at hand.
Like how The Beatles are obvs the most overrated band.
If it was just for DiS, Cut Your Hair or summat would be the most overrated song.
What is this Cut Your Hair?
'most parodied' more like.
But, Babe i'm gonna leave you is probably my favorite LZ tune.
it's undeniable. It's an undeniable piece of music. I cannot deny it.
I can imagine that if you're an American who listens to classic rock stations, it's the type of thing that might geta bit old, mind - I don't know if I've EVER heard it on the radio in the UK, so it's not like it fels overly ubiquitous.
Or, y'know, Planet ROCK.
I'd say 'When The Levee Breaks' is my favourite from IV though. Bonham's beat and fills in that song are legendary.
but as soon as Plant starts singing I have to leave the room.
Those lyrics are just too terrible, and too unignorable. Then once the shit really hits the fan and Page starts soloing, I'm fucking done. Bonham is excellent as always, but he can't save this mess.
I guess I loved it once upon a time, but at some point you just reach critical mass and never want to hear it again. Then because you DO keep hearing it, the hate starts kicking in.
It wouldn't be so bad if it were just a 3 min pop fart - like She Loves You, or Brown Sugar, or Crocodile Rock, or Yesterday - but Stairway is so bombastic and overbearing that indifference isn't really an option.
[Actually amend that: Crocodile Rock is probably the most loathsome song of all time.]
I definitely dont listen to LZ for their lyrics, but I'm generally cool enough with weird fantasy/mythology.
I hear the Plants voice complaints, and understand, def very polarizing, BUT I dont see how you could not like the guitar work on here. Unless you're just not keen on solos in general?
but when they're just hanging out there like dogs' balls they have to be OK, at the very least non-embarrassing. There's not much in the first few mins of that song to distract you from the cod-mystical shower of piss flying everywhere.
I love me a good guitar solo but I've never been a huge fan of Page's playing. Love his sound, love his riffs, love Led Zep for the most part, but his soloing is about 20th on the list of reasons why. It's all about Bonham for me (and I'm a guitarist, go figure)
is an excellent band name.
it should be arse not ass. putting class next to ass makes my ears bleed.
How would that raise such anger in you to make your EARS bleed anyhow?
accent that's making my ears bleed.
...it would be about halfway, but more because of its ubiquity which makes it difficult to listen to with fresh ears.
But ultimately it was my introduction to Led Zep and their astonishing back catalogue - the first album in particular - so thanks for that, Stairway.
because the buggering song has always been there, held up as a classic, part of the furniture.
I genuinely have no idea whether I like it or not. Its just there.
It always has been. It always will be.
Like the moon.
Mind you, I fucking LOVE the moon.
It's not bunk because it's been overplayed to death. It's overplayed to death because it's so class. Same goes for Comfortably Numb.