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What do you think, Internet?
I hope it works out for them though. I think that there is an empty niche for c1,500 capacity venues in London, what with the Forum and Troxy operating to one side and the Electric Ballroom to the other, so hopefully they’ll be able to cater for those old Astoria-sized shows.
Personally (in terms of the shows I go and see and those we put on), it’s good and affordable venues of 300-800 that the capital seems to lack. There’s Cargo and The Garage, but that’s about it in the gap between the Lexington and the Scala.
ULU's quite good, but they hardly ever seem to put bands on there. Is XOYO any good?
Some nights the sound is a terrible muddy mess and some nights its passable.
Some nights it’s unbearably hot and some nights it’s okay.
It’s always too chatty (the venue is wide and shallow, with the bars at the back and so you can always hear people ordering drinks and talking), the stage is barely visible because it’s so low and tucked under the stairs, and the women’s toilets are so poorly located (near a bar, the merch stands and in the area with the best view of the stage), that there is a massive scrum that can take ages to navigate.
ULU's capacity is over 800 too.
Is 500 cap in the mainroom, 800 for both floors.
Hardly central venue, it's South London!
Troxy is 2500, Shep Bush is 1800 odd thats the closest I guess.
I forgot Bush Hall, actually, in the 300-800 capacity list too.
I really love it.
Good sound, decent sightlines, doesn't seem to be too packed, even for sold-out shows. And easy to get to.
Gotta be easier to get to than the Troxy.
(Note: I may be biased as it is about 10 minutes walk from my flat. But still, trains, tube, great night buses...).
The Troxy (which isn’t really in the same size bracket as this place anyway), is near DLR and mainline train stations and loads of bus routes go past.
Considering most gig-goers in London live north of the river, it’s debateable whether Stepney or Brixton is more accessible.
Brixton’s a lot better now – I think that the area’s live music really suffered when the Victoria line was shutting early – and there’s no reason why a trip down there should be a chore, but I was just commenting on the fact that the article suggested it was in the centre of town.
Not sure how you work that one out?
I was saying that most people will be coming from north London anyway, and as a result the journey times will be pretty similar.
It's certainly not *central*. Suspect it would be slightly easier to get to than the Troxy for most people. Could be wrong though. And I do like the Troxy. But having decent venues all over london seems like a win to me.
http://www.youtube.com/user/80marktrade if anyone's interested. looks like it's a similar shape to the astoria.
Also I spent several years in the 90s going to the Fridge every weekend, and have many, many good memories of it. It was basically a grimy dump, but the club nights were great. There's a huge balcony/chill out area with a reasonable view of the stage. Looks like the cafe/side bar is going to be turned into a VIP area, which is a shame. But overall, it should be a decent venue, as long as they clean it up a bit, and have decent security (who don't treat (say) New Pornographers fans like hard drug users or gangsters).
But more importantly, it means that an ugly eyesore has been restored to something useful, which has to be good for the area.
I saw Autechre there when it was the Fridge.
can it not be as bad as the Coronet ... which launched with a flurry of excitement and seems to have gigs hardly ever, perhaps due to over-eager security, bad layout and a misplaced feeling of being 'upmarket'.
and given that I live mere minutes from the Fridge I really want this place to work out.
I like this.