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I'm a bad person, I know.
I've never really gotten "into" ANY of their others songs other than "The Rat". Oh well
One of the great American bands of the past decade.
You & Me is a modern classic.
is pretty ace
If you don't like that then there's basically no chance of you liking any of their other songs, ever.
That song 'The Rat' is pretty good though huh.
But I do like You & Me as an album. Though admittedly it took me about 20 listens before it clicked.
It's a bit like someone saying they only like 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'. I can understand why it may be the case, but I'll think that they're an idiot.
give a fuck whether they like it or not, or whether or not they are an idiot.
A pattern is beginning to emerge here.
I've always thought 'Little House of Savages' from the same album was a seriously underrated single, that chorus :-D.
A thousand times this! Fucking love that song, probably just as much as The Rat.
Also, did anyone else first find out about this band by watching The OC?
Can't seem to find video on youtube, but it happened. Honest.
it doesn't sound anything like their other output, you don't like the Walkmen you like The Strokes... thats okay
I don't LOVE their output besides The Rat
The aforementioned Little House of Savages and Angela Surf City to name but two (probably the only two but there you go).
It's nothing as angry or instant as 'The Rat', but there is some great songwriting in there.
Angela Surf City - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4BHHMhPMu0
I bought Lisbon when it was cheap in Fopp.
I've really struggled with it. I've probably listened to it about 5 times now, and I just don't get it. It's so insipid, I can sit and listen to whole thing and then would struggle to tell you a thing about it, or even hum a song. Sometimes there'll be a lyric that jumps out and my ears prick up, then it just washes away again.
Is Lisbon representative of their stuff? (The only other thing I know is the Rat). Are they better live? Or should I accept defeat?
and Lisbon probably isn't the best album to start with, although you'll hear differing opinions as to what is - some prefer the early stuff (doesn't do it for me), some prefer You + Me (similar to Lisbon but much better) ... me, I think A Hundred Miles Off is by far their best record (much more rocking and Replacements-y), but I'm in a pretty small minority
From what others have said it's possible that I just saw a bad gig but, if that's the case, I really, really, really saw a bad gig. The dynamics were so samey all blended into one another - even the Rat ;) - , nothing had any signs of energy or life about it and there is a huge, huge, huge vaccuum where any charisma or personality might have been.
Like I say, it might have been a bad gig but my advice having gone there as not a huge fan but nonetheless a reasonably interested observer who went there to enjoy themselves and failed to do so would be to see something else instead.
i saw them a few years ago knowing only the rat and it was ridiculously boring (maybe on the tour before You & Me?) but i've seen them twice this year (shephards bush + primavera) and they were really good both times.
Which, to be fair, was a good few years ago now. They could have improved.
I feel for you.
(Though admittedly, The Rat is the standout track). You & Me has some great moments but never got on with Lisbon. I was thinking of seeing them live but on this basis and what others have said on here I might not bother...
I doubt I'd have The Rat in their Top 10 best songs.
it's sometimes difficult to grasp that others may not like them.
I think You & Me and Bows + Arrows are in my top 10 - elegiac, moving, beautifully written and played music. I think the more instrospective, candlelight songs like 138th Street, New Country, While I Shovel The Snow etc.. resonate the most with me.
Also, I've seen them live at least four or five times and they've been brilliant each time. The singer always gives it 100%, and the drummer is an absolute beast.
Anyway, each to their own!
Loved it. Loved their style.
Saw them at The Garage not long after. Got a bit drunk on my own. Chatted to a gorgeous Greek girl in the bar after. Went home (alone) and blasted out Bows + Arrows in my kitchen. Hollering along and drinking some more. I mainly remember the singers voice live, shredding and distorting, giving it some serious welly.
Not bought anything since but still love Bows + Arrows.
Listen to that, hataz!
I fucking love BBC6 music, what a lovely surprise
But I saw them at Primavera and it bored the living fuck into me
just like them songs.
Bows & Arrows is a diamond.
A little less Yorkshire but I wouldn't hold that against The Rat or whatever this band are called.
This tune is alright though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GaFD9SeA0
meant to be under the pigeon detectives comment of course...
sounds like pigeon detectives
really? because, and i'm not being obtuse, it really fucking doesn't.
... Quite an embarassing to say really.
Also, the title track off of "Everyone Who Pretended to Like Me is Gone" is pretty excellent.
Tentley Town is pretty furious as well. Well, that is if you can only listen to music as fast pace as "The Rat".
You've got to hear "What's in it for me". That was the song which brought me in.
Too bad I can't find any video on youtube with any decent sound. Hear the CD version if you can.
What's In It For Me is a tune.
Mediocre US rock trying way too hard to sound dark & mysterious. The Rat is indeed awesome but I've listened to 3 of their albums and it is indeed the only decent song they have. Huge disparity between critical praise & actual reality.
with knobs on. On both counts.
They are one of the most laid-back, reflective, un-image conscious bands i can think of! "Actual reality" lolz
partly because The Walkmen probably aren't quite as dull as The National, but then who is?
Then I caught the end of a set and they were belting out In The New Year. Loved them ever since.
Canadian Girl is probably my favourite but I'm a sucker for a bit of brass.
but then again i'm in love with a canadian girl :D
never mind holding them up as the greatest songwriters of the last decade
The Rat, Savages, Revenge Wears No Wristwatch, the first half of Lisbon etc.
But generally, when they do a slower song, I just lose interest completely. The singer doesn't have a strong enough voice to carry those numbers on his own and they just get a bit one-dimensional.
I'll give You & Me a listen now, but I've been through both Lisbons and Bows + Arrows and they are more like 2 great EPs than full length albums
Wow. He shreds his vocal chords with every live performance, to the extent that i am firmly of the belief that they are made of titanium/granite/pure diamond. One of the finest crooners around, one of the best vocalists i've ever seen, and he pulls it off on the slower numbers too. Perhaps this will change your mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSjtNLvPpE8
but I still don't really like the actual tone of his voice, always sounds a bit strained to me. Bit like Dylan's voice to me - perfectly listenable but I can only take a few songs at a time, so never quite get through a full album.
Fantastic band...don't understand the hate really.
I think that album-wise You & Me and One Hundred Miles Off are my favourites but they are all awesome. Top Walkmen tracks (in no particular order)?
We've been had
Rue the day
Revenge wears no wristwatch
Everyone who pretended to like me is gone
Angela Surf City
Blue as your blood
Woe is me
Little house of savages
My Old Man
In the New Year
Seven Years of Holidays (for stretch)
I lost you
Good for you's Good for me
Emma get me a lemon
Don't get me down (come on over here)
Another one goes by
I like they way they sing about winter things a lot.
I won two places to see them in London somewhere next Wednesday as part of Q live or something but can't make it. Hope to catch them in Portsmouth on 30 June.