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Like, they're a full on booking agent now, or that you can buy tickets to certain family friendly shows off them..?
has been happening on the continent for years now.
I'm not trying to make a point, just saying is all.
...which gives the customer better value for money than Seetickets/Ticketbastard et. al. do with all of their charges then fair play to them.
I'm sure a load of people will complain about 'nothing being sacred' anymore or some similar guff but the reality is the ticketing business needs a fucking big shake and if Tesco are the people to do it then fair play...
judging from the tickets they've listed on their site they seem to be catering to a fairly specific market, that said if their involvement gets seetickets, ticketweb et al to up their game a bit in terms of making the charges a bit more fair I'm all for it.
No fees on tickets?
I hope they take over and sell more concert tickets
but then so are seetickets and the other fleecing fucks in this game.
Bands have to take some responsibility, in my book. Some top acts that make a thoroughly decent living already and don't need to maximise every penny they make from gig tickets would be doing a decent thing if they made sure their tickets could be bought without going through the hands of extortionists. Then the economies of scale would allow smaller acts to follow suit.
Much as Tesco need a kick in the shins every now and again, Ticketmaster et all need a bigger one.
But these bastards don't do anything for free. Where are the getting their aloe blacc from?
a combination of upsell and clubcard.
I'd guess they were consolidating a lot of the additional charges into the cost of the ticket, which to be fair, isn't necessarily a bad way of doing things.
I remember reading that they pay venues an awful lot of money to be their preferred merchants (this is passed on to the consumer as part of what makes up the lametable booking fee). I suppose if anyone can break the monopoly though, it's Tesco.
because right on your screen you can see the face value (aka the money the ticketing company doesn't get), and the booking fee (the money it does). There are very few other times when you can see information like that. Imagine if Tesco had stickers on their baked beans that said "we bought this can from our suppliers for half a penny!"
People want to just pay the face value for their tickets but they still want to be able to do it 24 hours a day online/by phone. They want a call centre to ring up with questions and requests. They want the tickets to be posted to them. And they want it all for nothing.
People want clear pricing. People don't give a damn about the breakdown.
Tix companies should sort out their behind the scenes deals and business model accordingly.
I don't ever want tickets posting out to me. There is rarely any need for actual tickets. If coach companies can manage without magical tickets and get by with a list of booking codes that they can cross off at the point of entry then so can gigs etc.
Some of my recent purchases:
'Ticket price': £12.50 | Total for 2: £33 | £8 in charges = 32%
'Ticket price': £30 | Total for 2: £70.50 | £10.50 in charges = 18%
'Ticket price': £28.50 | Total for 2: £65.01 | £8.01 in charges = 14%
'Ticket price': £10 | Total for 2: £28 | £8 in charges = 40% FOR COLLECTION ON THE DOOR, FFS!
OK, I wanna see the acts so I'll suck it up in these cases, but more and more often I'm starting to mentally add £x on top of ticket prices and be more picky about venues, and then just not bother with it. Especially for 'mid-range' stuff where I'm fairly keen but not prepared to be rinsed over it. Battles, The Kills and Ladytron have been the most examples from the last month where I can't justify paying ~£40+ for a couple of tickets.
Probably comparable to buying stuff in a shop. One thing ive always wondered, what risk do the ticket companies take on to deserve their profit, its not like they buy all the tickets and the ones that dont sell they lose money on, seems weird, guaranteed profit little work
I'm not buying something from a shop. I'm paying for the (non-/)delivery of an unnecessary piece of paper. It's an online card transaction and matching database. I know that's not free, but the margins they're making just doesn't add up compared to the cost of the tix (which covers x-amounts of real world costs).
But, yeah, your question re: 'what risk?' is an interesting one. How does a company like Ticketmaster or See get to be in such a strong position?
Wiki tells me See are basically borne out of Andrew Lloyd Webber's Really Useful Group, who own a load of big theatres. And Ticketmaster are owned by LiveNation in a nice little monopoly that the UK provisionally ruled against, but then decided to clear. Hmmm.
Nice/depressing outline of the Ticketmaster backstory here http://trashcity.org/content/why-ticketmaster-sucks/
what I don't agree with is ticketweb etc charging be £1.85 to print my ticket at home, yes they have to create and maintain an automated response system to generate said ticket, but this shouldn't be exactly the same price as for them to send it through the post. In principle I never pick ticketfast if it's the same cost as posted tickets.
I'm also miffed when a £40-50 quid ticket becomes £50-60 with 'fees', I know they need to make a profit but I think a fiver cap is reasonable like on Glasto tickets, generally the larger values are for bigger gigs, so there are more booking fees sales anyway.
We Got Tickets is the future, well until tickets can be downloaded to your phone via a barcode.
just give me the ticket price and the price of using the ticket agent. don't give me three different things.
... I suspect it may soon own me, my house and my family...
... but as people have said before if they don't stick the £16(ish) booking fee on a £3.25(ish) ticket that you get with TicketShafter et al then until the people in a position to do something about seatwave and co grow some (which I aint holding my breath for) I'll swallow it... I've noticed seetickets have added the £1 per ticket insurance somewhere sneaky of late - or rather I didn't until I got three confirmation in the space of an hour that all had an extra £6 on em...
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