I can see Burst Apart becoming absolutely massive.
and gained next to no attention outside the indie music press.
comes out tomorrow, which is when my interview with them is going up http://www.transgressiverecords.co.uk/artists/theantlers
i think, possibly, the album might be a bit too good, and not really compromised enough to be instantaneous to be a massive hit. It's possible tho it could 'do a Boxer' and slowly find fans, and then they can consolidate it all in a massive High Violet release-style 'moment' of daytime radio and sunday supplement cover features. Totally deserves to be massive and I await being proved wrong.
its a great album but not a commercial one at all.
this one is toned down with much less universal appeal
YOU ARE SHIT AT PREDICTING THINGS HAHA
it didn't really have any tunes
fuck off stevenage you cunts
gained some attention...and did well enough but considering on the High Violet victory lap they were talking about how galling it was it took it till High Violet for them to 'arrive' properly...
High Violet has ace tunes, not really Alligator level but lovely album I still put on a lot.
Yeah, I got a bit too excited again.
Anyway, it IS bloody brilliant though, right?
so i found burst apart a bit too...toned down? i know it's ridiculous to expect more of hospice.
but actually i'm listening to it now without those expectations and it is really rather good
but that's because they had already established themselves as an upper level indie act with boxer, which was universally praised and had songs featured on TV/video games
high violet did as well as it did because there was an expectation set by boxer
but you haven't crossed the river when you've stepped on the penultimate stepping stone.
Boxer Peaked at 68 on the US chart
High Violet at 3, even considering overall sales down that's a BIG difference.
Haven't heard the new one but can only imagine how milky and insubstantial it is.
Dates can be found on their website, I presume.
Either way, I can't wait. Can't see them "doing a National". Doing a Beach House, perhaps.
it's not out here in the UK/Europe til this week, came out earlier in the U.S
either way, I'm seeing The Antlers in L.A on friday. Bye.
I think in some ways it's got more depth than Hospice, and it's got moments like No Widows and Corsicana which are just as stunning as Kettering and Two. It does have a couple of slightly dull tracks around the middle, but then Hospice had one or two forgettable moments too.
You know, get really big in the indie press but nowhere else, slowly build steam, put out a record and ABSOLUTELY BLOW UP. Boxer got big, but not exactly REALLY big, comparatively.
Which, no, The Antlers aren't doing that yet.
Funeral was a huge release in the UK, largely because it had already been around in America for six months.
I was fairly young when that record came out, and I loved it immediately, but wasn't paying much attention to what everyone else was saying about it. I didn't know they "did a Teenage Fanclub" and got massive somewhere else.
Note: I may be drinking, and I may be thinking of another band that is insanely famous in Canada
I mean, I'm sure you'll say you were really cool and into music and read Pitchfork every day etc etc (I don't mean that in an arsey way) but most 13 year olds weren't like that, it was the NME and Observer Music Monthly for me if anything at all, but everyone I knew who was even sightly interested in music knew about the Arcade Fire album just because it was really in the public consciousness, covered in the broadsheets all the time, Jools Holland performance shortly after the UK release, Power Out got loads of MTV play (mostly due to that horrible high budget video).
Funeral really is one of the "great albums", but it was always thought of as such, they have never been an under appreciated band or have had any sort of "slow build" to popularity.
In which case, ignore that. Though I do remember being in the states in late 2004 and the Arcade Fire album was EVERYWHERE.
It may have been a regional thing, then. It got pretty much ignored in Washington, which is weird, because the Seattle proto-hipster crowd should have been eating it up like crazy, but if they were, they weren't showing it. It wasn't until Neon Bible that I heard anybody really talking about them at all, and that was only because David Bowie and Springsteen and Coldplay were up their asses.
Then came The Suburbs, and the rest is Grammy-winning history.
I kinda was a cool kid at that age (though I hadn't been turned onto Pitchfork yet; I just utilized Last.FM like a motherfucker), though I was still really outta the loop on a lot of stuff. It may have also been that I just wasn't paying close enough attention to things. Who knows?
it is only out tomorrow and the likes of The Guardian have only just put out reviews...so time will tell?
Though realistically I think they're a way off yet, I think Burst Apart will lay the ground work for even more anticipation come the follow up (a la Boxer). Whats more, I think the Glastonbury gig for The National was crucial, funnily enough.
"Radioheadness" of this record, I mean Parenthesis (which has been pointed out) belongs on OK Computer really
Radiohead aren't really the neutrals band of choice. Luckily, apart from Every Night... and Parenthesis, its a pretty tenuous connection
EVER. They have very similar drummers, that's all I'm saying
Of those who like radiohead, a good proportion will know and like the antlers. Others will be deterred by the comparison.
In case I want to listen to something awful
Every Night My Teeth Are Falling Out is one of the best things you will hear this year.
the worst song on the album.
I would be very interested to hear In The Attic of The Universe played by the whole band. Then again, maybe its best left as a Pete solo record.
than dad rock is fucking brilliant.
- Jeff Tweedy
and they told me that the vinyl won't be out till next week at the very earliest. Bah.
This is because their music is too dull, bleak and tuneless, and because they are yet to release an album which is any good. They lull you into THINKING their music's good but, when held up to scrutiny, it isn't.
Here was me thinking that Hospice was a great record (and the new one pretty good too), but turns out I wasn't scrutinising it enough. Thanks for the tip.
It's a dirge of a record with little artistic merit.
They've lulled me into thinking it's good and I'm far too much of a sheep to break out of that mindset now.
It's like Groundhog Day up in here, only played as a straight tragedy.
Curse my poor replying skills.
Differing people having differing opinions and all that... some people passionately advocating the qualities of an album; some people vehemently criticising the shortcomings of an album... The formula of discussion is always the same.
My post answers the question, and offers an amount of (admittedly scathing) supporting qualification to that answer. Not sure what the problem is...
The world would be dull without it. It's the 'they lull you into THINKING their musics good' bit I get tired of reading on here; the notion that some bands have somehow instilled some kind of false consciousness in their fanbase. It's just a bit ridiculous really.
But, sure, it's not a 100% serious assertion. More just a use of language to get across firmly how utterly, utterly dreadful I think The Antlers music is. Seriously. It causes a reaction, which is always worth something I suppose.
rather than making patronising statements about how it's crap and how people would realise that if only they would listen harder.
It's even LESS fun if people take it seriously...
The 'if you like this you aren't listening properly,' thing. To be filed alongside 'music for <insert strawman>' in the 'posts on the music board which grind my gears for some reason.'
Weirdly The Antlers don't cause much of a reaction in me. I find it quite pleasant but nothing on Burst Apart really grabbed me at all. I'm not sure how I ended up in this thead in the first place.
the new songs sounded great despite the slightly transitory sound in the El Rey theatre, but all in all very very good stuff. Certainly though what is noticeable when they play hospice songs is that they're far more 'singable' as in with the crowd, but that's not necessarily a bad thing because the new songs just create a really beautiful, post-rock-y atmosphere. Also their drummer (who I'm convinced is Phil Selway)
Also, Doctor Who was there.
I've returned to a few tracks repeatedly but haven't listened through properly...tomorrow
Hospice tracks got the biggest reaction, but you could see the enthusiasm with the band for the new material (understandably), but i think with their end of year tour that the new album will be standout - now that people recognise it all. Can't fucking wait for koko.
forgot to say, the album is actually out in the UK tomorrow (it only had a limited UK release last week - hence no DiS review as yet!)
Boxer didn't do this well in DiS year-end list (I wasn't editor at the time tho likes...)
I think they're being talked of with the same reverence these days.
The Antlers are playing Shepherd's Bush in April. Is this their largest headline show in the UK so far? I think they could easily be doing a multi-night stint at Brixton later in the year. Or they might need another album before they get to that point.
Though will add, when I got into the National between Boxer and High Violet there was several albums of them to run back into, I liked Hospice fair amount at the time, but not amazing, but really love Burst Apart. They still seem a bit of a prospect though, with probably great stuff to come. With the National was, wooooah these guys are already completely great.
Also haven't seen Antlers live yet (due to year of little money), will rectify that at some point. I guess we'll see what slots they get at festivals etc.
and, yes, it is there biggest headline UK gig to date, potential capacity about 2k, Koko was 1.4k (sold out). However, they'll need another album at least as critically acclaimed as BA before "multi nights" at Brixton Academy are a prospect.
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