Bastards. Now I've got to download your music illegally. I hope you're happy.
so people can stream them to their bigscreen TVs
I upload my vinyl with a USB record player but yeah all records theses days (and reissues) should come with a d/l code, it's obvious music lovers need their stuff on the go
afaik the UK doesn't have a 'fair use' clause like American law does
That'd be like someone paying for a download and then nicking a vinyl from the shop.
simply unacceptable in 2011
``well y'know.. someone's probably put a vinyl rip on the internet anyway``
AND SOMEONE HAD
more money than you would think to have download codes in the records.
I don't really know the other chap I run the label handles the non band related stuff and althoughwe have had download codes in a couple of releases, it's been quite a pain in the arse to do for one reason or another.
_elektritter_ is the main who is occasionally on DiS. Seb whats the costings on doing this?
I must find.
BUT I got a Mountain Goats album the other day and I had to put in not only a download code but also the barcode number from the back of the LP. Bit over the top. Also all Domino releases where you have to register with a Domino online account and everything. Jeeez.
I download stuff illegally when I've bought it on vinyl. Even if the UK doesn't have a 'fair use' thing, realistically i'm never gonna get prosecuted for downloading something I already own. So I guess I don't mind whether I get a download code or not.
i might make the download code give totally different tracks than are actually on the record. maybe just a speech synth robo-voice reading out this dumb thread
if i put nazi atrocity photos on the cover
I'm actually going to have download codes for my records with bonus material, or maybe even make them freely downloadable to all for that matter.
they just put it on their ipod to soundtrack their daily commutes
not saying that this is what DanielKelly does, though
and so they feel like they have the right to spout off about how superior vinyl is, but in truth they've never listened to the vinyl and only listen to the songs on their ipods/itunes.
I like everything: vinyl, tape, cd, mp3. if it contains music I like it's cool.
Vinyl still FEELS the best though.
it would probably look like a satchel and be very cumbersome
dunno if fnarrr is the right onomatopoeia for what I'm going for here but thanks anyway
Now lie in it.
At least the vinyl I buy. The only label I've bought from that consistently provides download codes is Ye Olde English Spelling Bee.
most vinyl I buy ive already downloaded anyway so I normally just give away the download code. I am killing the music industry
and don't bother listening to the music at all :3
as did one of the old This town needs Guns vinyls, though that was a CDR. i think that's a bit over the top, but yeah, it is annoying when you don't get a download code.
You purchased something in a particular format, choosing that format over a range of other formats and you whinge about not being given another copy for nothing in the format which you would technically use most often.
If you purchased the same album on CD would you whinge about not getting it on tape as well, as "I'm only going to tape it anyway, i don't really listen to CD's anymore".
If you want digital copies of vinyl you purchase rip it yourself and stop being so fucking lazy and expectant.
/rant continues in an 'in my day' vein.
As most people who buy vinyl will aquire the mp3s anyway (illegal download or rip) why not make it easy and reward people buying your record, if it costs to do a download or produce a cdr just add that to the price its not gonna be much
Plenty of people buy records to listen to records, some of the most serious record-buying types I know pretty much never download music legally or otherwise.
are that representative a sample, tbh.
may not neccessarily listen to MP3s so much. I don't think it's true to say that MOST people who buy a record will definitely also require an mp3 of it. For many people that's rather the point of buying a record as opposed to downloading in the first place.
You have to be pretty into music to buy vinyl, if you are pretty into music chances are youd want to be able to listen to it on the move. Buying and appreciating vinyl over mp3 doesnt equal not also listening to mp3, id say 50% atleast of records I buy come with the downlad that must reflect a demand
or hanging out with a music geek friend but pretty worthless in a car or on the street or in the kitchen and so on.
my record is going to come with a phono-1/8" jack cable and a slip of paper with 'http://audacity.sourceforge.net/' printed on it
Record something (or use Abba or something idk) and continually digitise it and press it to vinyl over and over and over until it's a load of mush. It'll sound horrible and be really expensive!
add a free cd of their albums with the vinyl because its so cheap. But then, they also hate CDs, so I dont really know why.
is add ANYTHING to the cost...
No whinging at all. Christ, you lot. Just fuck off.
but what did you expect people to post?
complaint about this issue, with the assumption that bands care about you 'illegally' downloading a record you already bought off them. Whining from both sides and 'witty' putdowns are all you should expect. Plus you already got a serious informed answer above: records don't always include a download code because it costs money to set that up.
but the actual info never materialised.
FYI, the record that prompted this thread was released by a monied major label. That doesn't necessarily make any difference, but I was genuinely surprised there was no download code. Wasn't that long ago I bought Yuck's album on vinyl. There was no code there and because they're on a smallish (relatively) label, I thought nothing of it.
sneering, self-righteous bullshit. I've burned my hand on the oven hob and will be steering well clear in futue!
An early 'proponent' of home taping was Malcolm McLaren who was at the time managing the British band Bow Wow Wow. In 1980 the band released their Cassette single "C30, C60, C90 Go" on a cassette that featured a blank other side that the buyer could record their own music on.
When you think about Vinyl and see a free MP3 code on the sticker of the vinyl it has always seemed strange to me. When I buy vinyl I buy for the sound and the collector item that I suppose it is. If I get a free download code I am thrilled but at the same time I see it as a contridiction of why I bought the vinyl album in the first place.
and they played a record you've got at home, you'd skip through the track?
Although I appreciate that it might be too expensive for smaller labels. It does play a role in my decision to by vinyl or not. I buy a mixture of CDs and vinyl, with the vinyl generally being bands I'm really into and interesting singles/EPs. I don't do any of that illegal downloading stuff; I've honestly no idea how to and I'm not sure I want to. Because vinyl is more expensive if I'm dithering between CD and vinyl MP3s will probably tip the balance in favour of vinyl.
I'm sure there's a large proportion of vinyl users who are hardcore and don't care for MP3s, but I think including them helps persuade the cross-format consumer like me. In this day and age it's not unreasonable to expect people will want to listen on the move.
google: [name of album] megaupload
HAHA NOW YOU KNOW
intitle:index.of fonts [name of font] (or mp3 name of song but that's pretty much spammed to death with fake directory pages)
http://www.maplin.co.uk/twin-phono-to-3.5mm-stereo-jack-lead-31700 now shut up
Would this jack and the software you linked to above really be enough to get a decent rip of a record, keeping in mind I have a very standard laptop and record player at home and I'm not hugely tech-savvy.
If so, colour me interested.
not sure about PCs tho; for them (and maybe for better/more options on mac) you can buy a cheap USB audio interface/soundcard thing which would be ok too...
and free software.
there is a download code, but it suggests that it's for a bonus song rather than the album.
why the last few death cab records didn't have codes with the vinyl, and in their case it's because they signed their contract for vinyl distribution before mp3 codes were ever around, which i imagine is the case for a lot of bands
Hadn't considered that!
oh wait it's a student design course project? GO AHEAD AND MAKE UP ANY OLD THING.
you could laminate 2 sheets cross grain maybe. cutting, laminating and screenprinting 100s of balsa wood 12"x12" and hosting two downloads per copy doesn't seem like it would be spectacularly low cost. :-/
that does fuck all.
On bandcamp, 500 downloads codes would cost £9.50. You then print them, and I think it's 20 download codes per A4 page, so the cost of printing 25 pages.
So really, download codes cost fuck all and there is absolutely no excuse not to have them.
I know someone who runs effectively a bedroom label and they've done this no problem. On the other hand I know someone who runs a bigger label and they release vinyl without d/l codes. Although that could be because they've been doing it for about 10yrs now so mp3 wasn't as prevelant.
I HAVE NO ANSWERS
When I start my much-vaunted label all vinyl will come with a d/l code. Not CDs though so fuck you brightonb
it was a limited single sided white label vinyl only release #hipster but seriously i wouldn't really have bought it otherwise, nice little pressie to kickstart my collection back off with as well
i plan to buy a USB turntable the first chance i get. they are like 40 quid and you can play out and rip.
buy vinyl, rip it from vinyl, only buy vinyl only releases if you don't want to waste your money... if you want something on vinyl REALLY REALLY REALLY buy a USB turntable you whingey mofo.
but isn't it probably just easier anyway to type "band + album + mediafire" into google, click download, done.
i remember when radiohead released in rainbows i didn't even bother going to the website and figuring out what links to click to get the download because it was easier to use google.
so in other words unless your download code is for something super-obscure, it doesn't really matter. it's already on the internet.
not anymore, as google have started blocking mediafire searches :''(
but also when you google that 'band + album + mediafire' google is clever enough to know that mediafire = all file sharing sites, so if the link isn't on MF it'll give me megaupload (or it did, RIP sweet prince)
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