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Just enough to make it worth it.
...respectively, I'd guess.
But bands that sell over 10, 000 records a year get a complimentary newspaper thrown in.
Did you plant them?
3 for birds
Anything more than playing just for the fun of it and you're a sellout baxtard.
100 capacity gig, £10 per ticket = £1000. Venue, promoter and sound guy take atleast half. £500 for 3 bands. 1 band plays for free cos they are first on local lads, support gets £200, headliners £300.
Lets hope the bands sell 10 shirts or cds each and make an extra £50 profit. So the support band who drove 200 miles at a cost of £50 and a hotel room shared by all for £50. Has £150 left to split between em.
This is my estimate, I'm sure alot will disagree so please do below and educate me :)
he has better formulas than me!
obviously the amount a sound guy, venue and promoter takes is variable but for an established promoter/company and established venue I think thats far. The sound guy wont work for less than £50 unless hes an amateur. So give the promoter £100 and the venue £200 you aint far off.
correct me please :)
the sound guy is probably picking up about £30 for the night.
which venues are these?
the soundman charges £45.
I've only made a profit once out of eight gigs.
(MEant broken even, not just "made a profit". I've also lost more than £100 twice)
in a venue that doesn't charge you for hire of the room or equipment.
We usually recieve around £90 a show (give or take £50), but hiring a van costs about £60 and we're a 7 piece so can generally get a few more heads through the door with friends/family etc.
Promoters generally want 25 people through the door per band before you will see anything. After that it's generally £1.50 per head per band.
Some venues/promoters across London look after bands quite well. The Good Ship in Kilburn don't take anything off the door and all money goes to the bands. We made £240 there one night. Club Fandango are really good as well. They take the usual cut but don't dick the bands around.
is bullshit. It's such a fucked up way of putting on gigs and paying bands and whatnot.
Putting on gigs to make money against putting on gigs to watch bands. Unfortunately too many are in the former camp.
and above, £500 to soundman promoter and venue? Sounds shit. Most promoters we've dealt with only take costs.
Putting on any kind of live music event is a massive risk, be it a touring band or a number of local acts. If don't take the opportunity of making a profit on the 1 in 5 shows that will turn a profit, you're going to end up massively out of pocket over the long run.
By costs I didn't necessarily mean costs for that night. If a promoter has a good night then them taking some of the cut for future shows etc is of course all fine, and as you say sensible. It's more taking the money just to fund their beer/into their pocket to make a profit. If someone is doing this then they are running it as a business as opposed to anything else and I would hazard they don't always do shows they 'like'. I dunno, if I wanted a band to play it wouldn't matter if they got 1 or 100 people through the door. (obviously I could give them more if 100 came though!)
It's too broad a topic anyway - what kind of bands are we talking about!?
"if I wanted a band to play it wouldn't matter if they got 1 or 100 people through the door"
an admirable but financially short sighted stance, i'd hazard you wouldn't last very long as a promoter given that as g'trip points out above you need to take advantage of the few shows you *do* make a profit on in order to ensure you just about break even on the rest.
my over-riding point is it's fine if money is kept for promoting, but not for personal gain. In my experience, people doing the '25 people then money' angle are not putting on gigs for the right reason at all.
the person is "promoting" in the first place, i expect it's a difficult balance to maintain when you're the in-house promoter for a toilet-circuit venue rather than someone who's doing shows in different venues as and when the notion takes them.
the former obviously has to try and ensure the venue breaks at least even and no doubt get's a bit of stick from their boss if their 3 band bill shite-core night pulls in 7 punters whereas the same scenario happening to your independent promoter probably means they won't/can't do any shows for a while
of this post makes fucking on sense........
and a packet of broken biscuits
I'll have 17 please. You can hold the bikini though, and get tae fuck with your ARMAINI bullshit. It's Giorgio or nothing, i'm a rockstarr you cunts.
Depends really, I don't want to name drop certain bands and promoters etc but I know most fee's etc.
And promoters/sound guy taking HALF? what the funk! Since when??? You music fans are so clueless!
``How much does a band earn per gig?``
Your bikinis are more expensive than the other bloke's, you'll have to do better than that chum.
He's more of a new era cap kind of bloke obviously
It's very difficult without knowing the size of band, size of venue, number of bands on the bill, type of show, number of shows on a tour, any sponsorship deals, label support etc. etc.
I've only ever paid the bands I've put on once, when I paid each band £60. The other 2 gigs I've put on have been free. I've probably lost about £450 on the 3 gigs I've put on. Doesn't bother me though. Everyone had a good time. The next one is a benefit gig, so won't be making any money on that, but it's for a good cause and the line-up is ace.