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Which is the best one to use?
the correct answer is ALL OF THEM
there are few things, like artistdata and getctrl (nice folks based up in Leeds who run it) which allow you to 'populate' all your info everywhere.
last.fm feeds in to a lot of listings sites tho, and facebook is a pretty good hub for things.
one of these days the DiS listings will be back...
Maybe now I've deleted the Myspace and am starting on the other sites from scratch it'll be a bit better than adjusting existing sites though. I just don't want to get myself back to the position I was in a few months back where the frustration need to constantly maintain my "internet presence" made me really not want to be in a band anymore.
the trick is to do it sparingly (something i personally fail at).
people tune out of constant stuff.
it's all about being relevant to yourself or refracting the conversation but there's no NEED to do anything. and the real trick is to do very little and it all feed in to the same place.
I just want a holding page where anyone who wants a quick summary of who my band is, what we sound like and where we're playing can be easily seen and gigs can be quickly and easily updated...
that's pretty much what GetCtrl is for. Simple websites that take feeds from everywhere.
or you can put the info in the header/sidebar of your tumblr.
internetz is so much simpler than when i was setting up websites in '98 for my local venue and that band Twist.
My only concern with it is it seems I have to build myself a new band official website in order to use it. I'm not sure I want another band official website - I like using Wordpress for that...
I saw them at Bedford Esquires once, around the time they were releasing those singles on Fierce Panda
and it puts your upcoming gigs on bandcamp (though they only come up really small in the corner)
However it's really difficult to use and I can't seem to find a way to add my band to an event that had already been created. Bad times.
But yeah, I think that listing gigs is the only thing I miss from myspace.
You should have everything, myspace, bandcamp, last.fm, soundcloud & just about anything else. Different people use different places, makes your stuff easier to find etc.
With ArtistData Can I do it all one on site and never have to go on any other site ever? If so that's appealing but if I still have to go about editing profiles in various sites then I think I'm gonna stick to my plan of finding one corner of the internet and sticking to it.
To be honest I'm long past the point where I want to make it. I've had a spell doing festivals and radio things and so forth but now what I really want is all to start being fun again. And I think step one of that has to be to stop spending my spare time doing internet band admin when I'd rather be rehearsing and recording and generally enjoying my life.
Maybe a barebones facebook/twitter/last.fm presence for giving a quick headsup that you've posted something interesting on your proper site. Anything after that is surely gonna be massively diminishing returns if you're expecting to update and have people follow.
Sure, host stuff of interest wherever, but in terms of people actually following and keeping track, does really need something other than fb/twitter/blog rss/last?
I mean people have got google and realistically most people who find your band are doing so off the address you give them (unfortunately our Myspace for now so I'll need to fix that!) so as long as you're on the internet somewhere people'll find you easily enough. So I'm skeptical as to how many bands 'fail' because they can't be found on Soundcloud as well as Last FM and Bandcamp.
I can't help feeling having all these sites across all these places basically means you spread yourself thinly, end up with a load of websites you're only semi-engaging with and doesn't really have any impact whatsoever on whether you make it.
I think every band gets sucked into this internet arms race of "this is what I have to do, this is what I have to do, this is what I have to do" and if people stopped, reflected and relaxed they'd probably end up with the same results...
nice and minimal, can make you page look pretty smart with no clutter. That should do really.
you can stream a few songs, have them for download and put gigs up. seems alright. basically is good for going - 'check out my band here and contact us.'
I haven't seen any shitty indie bands on there, but then I don't look for shitty indie bands, or even indie bands, as they are shit so that may be why.
loads of acts i like use both.
both have their merits.
soundcloud is great for promo, as it works with hype machine and is easy to embed.
bandcamp is great for selling tracks and giving away mp3s in exchange for email addresses.
can't be arsed to post a load of links to good bands on bandcamp but they are there.
soundcloud is for shitty duhstep producers
bandcamp is for shitty indie bands
I've got a Wordpress blog which I don't update enough but other than that I quite like for uploading songs and talking in-depth about what we're doing. It's just that the front page of Wordpress is obviously the most recent posts and what I want is one straightforward uncluttered holding page which people can easily search for and find a short bio, a handful of songs and a list of gigs. Basically what Myspace did in about 2005 or 2006.
You can on a hosted WP site, anyway. And if you're doing it to the level you suggest, you should be hosted. Although maybe the .com version of WP allows it, too.
I don't really use any of these things to follow bands - if I like a band I'll make an effort to google them, and I'll follow them on twitter (if they're entertaining rather than just to get a constant stream of gig spam) but I've never given up on a band just because I can't find them on myspace or bandcamp or whatever. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC MAN.
I think brightonb has a point about just having a blog - as long as you've got a googleable band name people will find it and if it's entertaining/interesting they'll keep coming back to it. I don't even think you necessarily have to stream any of your music online, just get it on the radio if you want people to come to your gigs.
rather to become FAMOUS.
it was kinda cack handedly put together. If I remember right Vimeo always kept the sync right where Youtube kept fucking up.
Bandcamp do a free download code generator thing which is useful if you're putting out a record (and their players look prettier than soundcloud) DON'T SHOOT!
like, i look at it and its just a mess of words and pictures and i don't understand it at all. they actually seem to have made it worse.
i'm going to start promoting bands after i move in the summer. i'm not going to have a myspace page.
As someone who has a blog writing about bands, who downloads stuff from them and and posts tracks all the time I consider myself qualified to comment.
All bands please get these, in this order:
Last.fm / Bandcamp / Blog / Soundcloud
Last Fm = My first choice to link to. Haven't linked a band to their MySpace for 4 months or more. You can max it out with all the info and forwarding links you want.
You can hook an RSS feed into your last fm account to keep it synched with your blog. Good. If you have a website, makes it quite handy. Also you can link properly like with the old days of MySpace. File downloads is a bit tredious, but at least you can do it. The gig listings work really well and the Journals taggiong system is brilliant - has all the community aspect of old Myspazz but much better. Should really be the first thing people have, standard requirement for bands.
Bandcamp = Lovely stuff. Looks nice, very easy to use. Link your blog and Last.fm to it. Some people don't like their embedding, but it's fine really isn't it? You can make money from it, add people's emails to your subscriber lists, list gigs, do soem neat tricks with the download packages.
Soundcloud = You can follow people on it. Bandcamp needs this. That's the only bonus I really see with sndcld, butit;s a massive one
And as a bonus for metallers - make sure your Metal Archives page is all tooled up to the teeth. Don't write your own review though, cheeky.
I HAVE EVER SEEN!
it somehow harvests your live infos from various places inc. myspace i think plus you can add events quite nicely and the listings then appear in your bandcamp sidebar.. http://www.songkick.com
just play around with bits until you find what works. They're all what you make of them really. I'd even keep your myspace but make it super minimal and add links to the rest of your stuff. Facebook and twitter seem the biggest right now but you cant beat the other sites for hooking geeks in. I'd prob even get a youtube and vimo channel yourself to upload clips to silly vids too. So yeah play about with it all and see what people pick up on.
play with a load of them but keep the ones you aint sure about really minimal linking to the others... Then find a home that works as your hub. Point everything at the one you want. Have fun exploring the posibilities creativly cos you can do alsorts nowadays. You never know what audiances will pick up on diffrent aproaches. Oh yeah just have shit hot music helps too.