lol @ Conor McNicholas
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/feb/27/the-strokes-angles-casablancas-interview?CMP=twt_gu
'Fuck. Popular culture will never be the same again.'
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'Fuck. Hydration will never be the same again'
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Because there's such widespread love for middle class guitar bands
And there was constant bitching about them being rich kids
throughout the year the first album came out (10 years ago. Shit.)
Nothing like some good old reverse snobbery
when it comes to music
*when you replied to this thread
Like many, he remembers exactly where he was when he first heard them... 'Last Nite' came on'
The Modern Age was their first single. BANDWAGON JUMPER.
I think it says a lot
that it wasn't until their second single was being played on the radio that he actually heard The Strokes. Isn't a magazine like the NME meant to notice the buzz around a band a little earlier than that?
Yes, but...
Conor McNicholas, appointed editor of the NME a year after the band's debut in 2001
What is it with DiS and speech marks?
that's a quote from the article.
."It's a bug that popped up after the site got restored after a crash a couple of weeks ago."
."A full stop before your quotation is a workaround."
Otherwise DiS tends to strip the quote marks and then everything after the quote.
It's only for quotes that are a full standalone paragrah though, "quotes as part of a paragraph are fine".
There's something funny going on with full stops directly before a hyperlink, too.http://www.bbc.co.uk
Link is broken
Cheers for the info/solution :)
Last Nite was the b-side, mind.
Yeah
All 3 tracks from The Modern Age EP were getting quite a bit of radio play around that time. The NME actually gave away a CD with the original version of Modern Age on it a few weeks before 'Is This It' was released, so they were definitely on his radar by then - which makes me think it was probably the EP version of Last Nite that he heard.
For reasons unknown, I have Conor McNocholas a facebook friend (I've never met him so have no idea how),
and his last status was 'Is it just me, or is the new Aston Martin Vantage a bit meh?'
CORPORATE SELLOUT
A Conor McNicholas impersonator couldn't have done better
He was also editor of Top Gear at one stage I believe.
According to Wikipedia
he left NME for Top Gear and then quit after less than a year.
I know.
Still quite a pretentious thing to say on facebook though.
sounds like something a person who doesnt know about cars would say
You should reply.
No, Conor. It's not just you - I completey agree that the new Aston Martin Vantage is a bit 'meh'.
What a cunt.
Pretty sure they were nowhere near as big as rose-tinted articles like this always make out.
Definitely not "one of the most important rock'n'roll bands of all time, without a doubt" either. They're good though.
In their sphere they were
They did SNL three months after their debut album's release, which is pretty much unheard of. Over here they were seen as the first of the big music press guitar bands to cross over after Britpop, and on the back of that we not just had the White Stripes and lessers but also, as all concerned freely admit, no Strokes, no Libertines/Franz/Kaisers, and hence no of that whole wave of British 'indie' revival that's still going on.
The front cover of NME, June 2001, was a black and white picture of the Strokes and the headline:
Why New York's finest will change your life - forever.
So there was definitely a fair bit of buzz...
Found it
http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!B7sR)VQ!mk~$(KGrHqR,!hQEyribN)ByBM092S1FS!~~0_12.JPG
Very helpful, that declaration top right.
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9qA6qyY7a8&feature=related
Public Domain: Meet the New Prodigy.
They weren't huge in terms of sales, I think
But in the summer of 2001, they and the White Stripes, seemed to be pretty much everywhere. I think the (White) Stripes, as we like to call them, were bigger though.
But this is an article in the British press quoting other members of the British press, all of whom are pretty good with hype and hyperbole.
Yeah
They act as though the Average Man On Street knew who they were at the time, but they didn't, it was only music fans. The White Stripes were more famous than them when Seven Nation Army came out I think, yeah.
Is This It made No.2 in the charts
so not like it was just the DiS brigade who knew of them
I'd agree that the Strokes have never been as big in popular consciousness as the White Stripes.
I'm sure my parents have heard of the White Strips, but I doubt the would have the Strokes.
But this is an article in the Obsever, the assume a different point of reference for their readers than the Daily Mail.
Depends how you look at it
The Sun and R4 Today both ran features on the White Stripes at the time, as they were being sold as 'John Peel's favourite new band', and they were on CD:UK just afterwards, but the Strokes were all over the place - did TOTP twice, performed on the 2002 Brits, all media wanted to cover Is This It.
They were massive in hype terms
- they were the first indie band of any note that played Heaven (3 weeks before Ws did the 100 Club) and that was totally sold out with all sorts of people going (for some reason I remember the Pet Shop Boys being there), the way NME first started hyping the Libertines was as the "British Strokes", and they were also the first of the more recent breed of bands to play Alexandra Palace (noting New Order and Blur etc but that was timeage before). Overall there's no way they were under any radar; everyone knew about them at the time.
aaaand at Reading 2001 (Is This It? came out on the Bank Holiday Monday)
they were bumped from mid-afternoon in the Radio 1 stage to mid-afternoon on the Main Stage. Obviously bands getting bumped around isn't unusual (it happened to Queens of the Stone Age the year before) this was done on the day, thus totally throwing all the schedules out.
hah, just noticed the article says that
it wasn't a 'small tent', though, it was the 8,000 capacity Radio 1 Tent, which actually makes it all sound MORE impressive.
to be fair to him
he wasn't the editor until a year after IS THIS IT came out and NME covered them from the get go, giving them more coverage than anyone, even in their own country.
Moving from a dance magazine, in fact
http://www.mediaweek.co.uk/news/147416/IPC-names-Muziks-McNicholas-new-editor-NME/
Steve Sutherland, the man who wrecked the NME's last proper halcyon days of the turn of the 90s by becoming editor against everyone's wishes, was still overseeing the magazine then. (Ben Knowles, who Conor replaced, became deputy editor of the Daily Star and now works for War Child)
I had a lot of time for Knowles.
In an era of turgid plodding 'rock' (Stereophonics and Travis), unexhilarating NAM (Starsailor and Alfie) and excrecable nu-metal (Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park), he was prepared to break with the NME's Britpop-engended readership by putting Missy Elliot, Aaliyah and the Neptunes on the front cover.
So he's supported the child victims of the military campaigns
His former rabid right-wing tabloid unanimously backed. Ah, bless.
Just when you thought the Strokes couldn't seem douchier
There's the way they're portrayed (and embarrassingly fawned over) in that article.
That McNicholas quote did make me chuckle...
...but I thought it was more interesting that apparently Casablancas recorded all his vocals for Angles separately from the rest of the band. Thus, I hope it flops
hmmm
this is pretty much standard practice- they probably had quite a lot of money and time to spend, why not record the vocal at a different studio, at a different time from the rest of the band? I don't think it was meant in a knobbish way, probably just left them to get on with it while he got on with his stuff etc. Dunno why I'm defending him mind, I don't care!!
It's weird the way probably their worst song (Last Nite) is their most famous.
I loathe that song.
couldn't agree more
mind numbingly simplistic, in the worst way possible, dull song. Hard To Explain will always be their classic for me.
alway made me chuckle about the video
being their performance at The Astoria on the NME tour. I'd nipped to the bar upstairs and missed that song but saw it loads on MTV for years afterwards. Great night - Peaches, Rocket from the Crypt and my first introduction to ...And You Will Know Us. Even better, I had tickets for the night after and saw At The Drive In. Good good times, ahhhhh.
The Astoria must have changed a bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tuvX_X7Rlw
Bless
Fuck. Popular culture will never be the same again.
Conor Mc Nicholas tries to be cool on the internet but then his dad catches wind of the abuse he gets.
Fuck. Consequences will never be the same.
Fuck.
Indie-oriented internet memes will never be the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se1QYJDNEtg
Should stress I haven't just posted a clip of a 25 year old yoof TV show in this thread for no reason.