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I did wonder if they had released the b-sides disc ahead of the album...
Also, I don't understand why anyone would be 'disappointed' at an album being 37 minutes long; for internet-users, these people have way too long attention spans.
is probably its strongest point.
but the rest does seem to be clutching at straws a fair bit
Radiohead got some of you lot by the balls so much its hilarious.
Theoretically, therefore, it's 600 bob.
I STILL can't find my Edward VII coronation mug. :(
stumbled across some Tudor parchment paper that had been hidden in an old butter-churner but it looks like the fucking hamster's gone to town on it... The little SHIT.
and wouldn't you just know it turns out to be a fucking draw? I'm still hiding from the bookies. Five groats? I haven't got that kind of change.
by basically saying IT'S ACTUALLY FINE BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER ONE SOON, as if that negates the not-greatness of this one.
Context? Bullshit. It doesn't excuse 'part 1' either way.
Maybe TKOL is the Amnesiac to their next albums Kid A... They just decided to release them the other way around this time.
seems to suggest that an awful lot of people are REALLY DISAPPOINTED. That's all they need to say, instead of riding the speculation train.
If the band manage to spout these proverbial branches, that'd be wonderful. But I'm happy as it is.
but i feel sorry for radiohead. they write and release a song and all their fans can say about it is that it has been written as a placeholder to the next step in their release campaign? does this happen with any other bands?
They are incredibly lucky that so many people that don't like the album are ALREADY queuing up to hear what they do next.
I'd advise them to listen to this one a bit more first, but whatever.
its just not that good
I think it's their least commercial record by a massive shot, people seem to be being a bit cool for school to acknowledge that fact.
i meant that i think its the quality, not difficulty as what was suggested, that is bringing the criticisms.
All the theories do seem a little out there. The only thing that sort of gets me thinking there could be more to it is they have dubbed it the 'first newspaper album' which suggests it could have a few more 'issues'. They have also stated before they wanted to make shorter releases, like EPs... so maybe there is more. However I don't see anything else coming out until the special editions start to ship in May. Whatever, I'm happy enjoying it, so whatever else they do is just a bonus.
Radiohead have said nothing about this album themselves, people are flailing about for a context that would normally be provided for them by interviews and press releases.
I mean, to me it sounds obviously low key and - presumably intentionally - their least commercial offering, so I guess people are wondering why they've chosen to do that. I mean, Kid A is their next most obtuse album before this, but the narrative of Kid A = awkward followed by Amnesiac = song-based was pre-established for everyone.
Personally I could well imagine that Radiohead have a truckload of more commerical material... but I find it a bit hard to believe that they'd be cuntish enough to spring another £30-£40 deluxe album on fans so soon after this one, so unless there's some sort of twist in the tale, I can imagine them being silent again for some time.
is that every other radiohead album has been a pretty bold, grand statement - a big exhalation, and a full stop. they've been very careful to throw everything in (ie hail to the thief), and they've mentioned in interviews that after every album before they've effectively split the band up.
so this feels like a transition to a new way of working. its a carefully considered set of songs, that i think has genuine cohesion. maybe fans wanted something more, but its pretty clear the alternative was nothing, or something worse. maybe this is the only way they thought they could get people to understand/catch up with the way theyre operating these days?
But the king of limbs is one of the best things they've done, and It's a shame people seem to be demanding more now. The theories are quite.fun in places though... so far
Has any band ever released an album legitimately, then a little down the line gone "phyche!" and released the actual album? I'd hope so, but I can't think of any examples (at least at this level of fame).
Ben Folds did this before releasing 'Way To Normal'. Funniest thing was, that most of the 'joke' demos from the 'leak' were better than the actual thing.
Though I forgot about These Are My Twisted Words,(In Memory Of) Harry Patch, Feeling Pulled Apart By Horses and The Hollow Earth, which were all released 2009 and show the pace at which Radiohead are working. I think there is a sense that people are disappointed with the briefness of it, simply because they're used to more. I wouldn't say I was disappointed, but I still want more naturally.
i know it was retracted, but this 8 track release is almost EP length (don't start that argument again, though) and considering the packaging and the fact that I am very happy with the album, and i think it ranks up there with some of the best work they've done.
i don't care though. if this /is/ part 1, then i cannot FUCKING WAIT for part 2, but it doesn't make this part any less immersive.
Come on now, if you don't want to start the argument, don't say preposterous things. There is nothing about 8 tracks at 37 minutes which doesn't indicate full album. This is a full album, not an EP.
You are right, that 8 tracks and 37 minutes indicate a full album, but in the context of Radiohead´s oeuvre The King Of Limbs as a piece of music feels either incomplete or a minor work.
Also let's remember that in 2009 they scattered a handful of tracks all over the internet, then kept working and now released an 8-track album? I bet the reason they didn't release these tracks separately is that they felt that these tracks belong together -- and that while making these tracks they must have also done other tracks that didn't fit this particular puzzle. I'm sure that these castoffs will surface in the coming months in some form and another and will be more diverse in style than the tracks that compose KOL.
but then the last year has seen a 60 minute EP (and Autechre's last year was about 45 minutes I think) so the definition of that has become pretty stretched anyway.
These days an EP isn't about the number of tracks or the disc length -- it's a sort of disclaimer that the listener is getting something looser than a proper album. For instance Zeus EP by British Sea Party has 8 tracks and 40 minutes but never even tries to be an album; it's just a jumble of songs, sounds and ideas that didn't fit on Valhalla Dancehall; some of them good, most of them pretty bad, but hey, it's a half cheaper than an album despite containg as much new material.
that this was an LP and not an EP? what if it IS an EP??? they might have done and I've missed it but I dunno
so I suppose they did. It's not a 'newspaper EP'
It was just something crazy that Ed said it would be fun to do. It came up after Amnesiac didn't it? Or even after OKC, maybe. Anyway, I remember it being mentioned to the band and I'm sure the rest of them looked a bit confused until Ed explained it was just him saying random stuff to journalists.
It definitely came up after HTTT, and then again after In Rainbows, this time to a huge reaction.
Radiohead's In Rainbows came out on 10/10/2007, 10 years after OK Computer, and there are 10 letters in the names of both albums. Additionally, OK Computer's original working title was Zeroes and Ones, or "01," (the mirror image of "10" ... obviously). Even that last part alone is enough to make Radiohead fans start looking for a crazy conspiracy, as you're probably aware if you've ever had to spend a long car ride sitting beside one. The scary part? This time they'd be totally right.
There's a way to combine the tracks from OK Computer (hereinafter referred to as 01) and In Rainbows (hereinafter referred to as 10), to form one huge mega-album. As Puddlegum explains, "To create the 01 and 10 playlist, begin with OK Computer's track one, "Airbag," and follow this with In Rainbow's track one, "15 Step." Alternate the albums, track by track, until you reach "Karma Police" on OK Computer, making "All I Need" the tenth track on the 01 and 10 playlist." It's not that they sound nice together; it's that these songs were definitely meant to make us shit our pants when played like this. In the way that "Golden Slumbers," "Carry That Weight" and "The End" all flow into each other on The Beatles' Abbey Road, these songs all flow into one another as well, as if they were all recorded in one big session.
Don't believe us? Just listen to it. To get the full effect, you need to set your player with a 10-second crossfade between tracks (more 10s!), but you can notice most stuff without doing that. Then shit your pants.
This blogger points out that the song "Nude" (10 album), starts with the reverb from "Subterranean Homesick Alien" (01 album) still lingering, and the beats at the end of "Airbag" (01) set the tempo for "15 Step" (10). There's nothing unusual about that ... except when you consider that those songs were written and recorded 10 years apart. The pants-shitting synchronicity also applies to the lyrics. Puddlegum gives some examples and says: "There appears to be a concept flowing through the 01 and 10 playlist. Ideas in one song [are] picked up by the next." In fact, one of the songs from In Rainbows was originally written for OK Computer and not used for 10 years, and the title of another seems to sum up the whole thing: "Jigsaw Falling Into Place."
Remember all that "10" stuff we mentioned up top, about the date, the time between albums, the number of letters in the titles and whatnot? Want more? Radiohead themselves announced In Rainbows only 10 days before it came out (which is rather unusual), and the announcement was followed by a series of 10 cryptic messages posted by the band on their website. That's nothing new: Cryptic messages might be the only way alternative rock musicians know how to communicate. But then Radiohead fans, being Radiohead fans, noticed that the messages emphasized the letter X (one image was titled "Xendless Xurbia"). And, say, isn't "X" the Roman numeral for 10? Plus, let's take a look at this cover art real quick.
The band has never officially confirmed any of this, though Puddlegum claims Thom Yorke was annoyed by how long it's taken people to figure it out. Come on, dude -- not all of us are insane alien geniuses.
Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_18896_10-mind-blowing-easter-eggs-hidden-in-famous-albums.html#ixzz1EbFEPyro
Radiohead will stop at album number 10 then.
While listening to 'Morning Mr. Magpie' in my car (yes, I have one. At least I'm not writing which) I was reminded of 'A Punch Up At A Wedding'. The lyrics kind of fit. Just saying.
both now up on our audio-only tumblr http://www.drownedinsoundcloud.com
...all this speculation actually forced them to do another. "Oh shit, they didn't think that much of it. Let's do another one, quick!"
AND THATS WHY WERE LISTENING TO THIS PIECE OF SHIT INSTEAD OF ANOTHER 'THE BENDS'.
About how just because we're speculating on LP9 or more TKOL material, doesn't mean that we're not satisfied with what we have.
My OPINION: TKOL is amazing. Up there in quality on a per-song basis with anything else they've done. It's also pretty cohesive, unlike HTTT or Amnesiac.
But come on, they left off at least two thirds of the songs Thom previewed for us during his solo tour. At least 3-4 of those being between great and amazing. Plus, all of the secrecy, the newspaper thing, et al. The AtEase news post kinda sums it up.
It feels strange that we got an 8-track album that's missing a huge chunk of the expected tracks, and Radiohead keeps touting their cool but uninnovative discbox release as "innovative" and "never done before."
i've not heard anything from them since the 14th.
is it not possible that he's planning to use it for a future solo project?
all crowded round one computer screen, reading this thread (and thousands more like it) absolutely wetting themselves with laughter.
it's like people prefer talking about them and gettiung excited about whats next rather than actually listening to them.
I'd love to be in their boat though. I'd just release a big fart next then let someone try and work out how it fits into the radiohead mega plan.
I personally think the next thing they release will end all conflicts in the middle east. The signs are there.
To me the album sounds massively accessible - Lotus Flower has a poppy chorus! Certainly more so than In Rainbows. I only hope this doesn't mean it gets boring quickly.
but I can't really imagine Fearne Cotton playing the likes of Bloom or Morning Mr Magpie and shouting about how totally awesome it is out of her stupid slab of a face.
I love the mystery. Radiohead have taken the internet, which has led to the evaporation of mystery and mystique for most bands, and turned it to their advantage. Their refusal to explain, to do promo etc, to let/make us work out what their stuff means *to us*, is almost unique nowadays. Much love.
then maybe the music to which we have been given access to so far is not at all the same as what will be on the deluxe box set?
I mean, the box set doesn't come out until May, so that leaves plenty of time for any other material to be dropped at a moments notice.
I for one however, am not a believer in this, i'm perfectly contented with eight tracks of forward thinking, fresh Radiohead material and have a funny feeling that the majority of people who are banging on about 'ooooh, there's gonna be more' are probably just a little disappointed in the album and are using the possibility of a 'secret 2nd album' as a cover.
Or they just want to hear a full band version of The Present Tense, which was earmarked by most fans as the best new song from the live previews.
You're both right. But we are exactly where we were in October 2000 as Kid A was leaked/released. Hardcore fans go ballistic initially. "No tunez!!", 'Where's the guitar?", "But where are Pyramid Song, Knives Out etc... They've played them all live and they're awesome.". Radiohead put songs on albums when a) they're happy they've done it justice, b) it doesn't sound stupidly out of place on the record. The songs will make it out eventually one way or another, Only time will tell whether King of Limbs will sound good a few months/years down the line. So far though, from memory, I think it's beating Kid A in first impressions by the sound of it.
...that we are only offered the buying options of the deluxe newspaper edition and the download? Now, I for one would be content to settle for an ordinary cd and not to clutter up my house with two vinyl discs and "625 pieces of artwork". Why can´t I pre-order the cd in advance? Would that somehow ruin their evil master plan?
Or are you playing the role of ateaseweb conspiracy theorist.
which I think is a pretty damn fine piece of work, to be honest. If more comes along, then it will be a bonus, but in the meantime I'm quite content with what I've got.
Not because of any feelings towards the music, just that the very fact that these teenage conspiracy nutjobs would have been right about something is enough to make me fill with rage for humanity. Well, more rage than usual. It could only serve to raise a generation of utter, utter tosspots who never come close to getting over their unbearable smugness. ."My wild and baseless conjecture was right before (by sheer fluke), so clearly I am well-placed to predict exactly what's going to happen in Libyaaaa". For example. Still, I suppose they'd be easy to milk at poker.
That the newspaper artwork for this albums works because there is " a sense of the music not coming to a halt", It's just reporting on It's status.
Surely its a hoax? (I haven't downloaded it but I can't believe its been leaked if it exists.)
they make you complete one of those "quick survey" popups that you have to finish, usually to get a download of something which doesn't exist.
which you then forget about and when you go back it's all DOWNLOAD SESSION EXPIRED
actually had a bunch of unreleased tracks in his library. but now they're gone.
I loved it. Took me weeks to realise that someone had just changed its title and I was in fact listening to a Muse b-side
what's the deal with this 'leak'? Has anyone actually downloaded it?
Saying that it's all just nonsense. Apparently there are 3 or 4 other songs that weren't finished and could go on to form a record but as they stood didn't really warrant release.
<satire> Sounds like they'll fit right in! </satire>
Radiohead album comes out.
People want more Radiohead.
People make up stories about there being another album's worth of stuff.
Radiohead announce RSD single release which isn't on the album.
Is it someone doing a pretty good Radiohead impression? A virus?
King of Limbs is only 37, lol.
The "spotty youths" comment was a bit harsh. I was excited about the possibility of more music I've not had spots since I was fifteen.
but here we are.
but thank god it has put an end to all these conspiracy theories.
I like the album, their new innovative way of releasing music wasn't up to much though...
...is that Radiohead aren't as nearly as devious as we imagine. As much as we like to perpetuate a myth about high-concept ground-breaking music and release formats, they're just a bunch of guys making amazing music. That said I'd love for them to do a proper concept album, and it would have been an amazing if they actually had spent four years coming up with a multi-part album.