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considering they sound nothing like them? I can't think of a single Oasis song that sounds like The Beatles. Strange.
if they say they are huge fans of them. It really isn't that simple.
They meant The Ruttles.
I also can't think of a single Oasis song that sounds like the Stone Roses. Or, for that matter, a Vines song that sounds like Nirvana, or an Interpol song that sounds like Joy Division. People just like throwing these things around, and once something sticks it's hard to shake.
that interlude after the chorus going into the verse sounds Nirvana-esque, plus Craig Nicholls was a bit Kurt-like rolling round on the floor getting uber feedback and smashing his guitar into shards. they were a 3-piece too.
I know what you mean, unjust comparisons are often made with some bands where it isn't really due.
Just a bit!
I don't think it's completely random. There's no specific song of the Vines that sounds like Nirvana, but they were clearly influenced by them, particularly in the way Craig sang. Similarly, there are similarities in Paul Banks and Ian Curtis' singing styles.
I think they're lazy comparisons, but they don't come from nowhere.
I'm not saying it's random. Most of the time I know where they come from. Just, doesn't mean they actually SOUND like them.
But a lot of it is just lazy journalism - a lot of reviews just list off the influences, and then they just become a shorthand for the band itself.
it's like throwing all sopranos in the same bag for the vocal style. But JD and Interpol surely is just about the vocal levels. Both deep voices, quite controlled etc.
would have to be Interpol's biggest influence not Joy Division. Certainly as far as 'Turn On The Bright Lights' is concerned anyway. La Banks even pretty much said so himself...
thats a differend barrel of fish.
that guy saying they were gonna be bigger than the Beatles or whatever it was he said. Haven't listened to Oasis so can't judge really though.
Not that you would. But srsly.
that's all I know of.
Their sound has been filtered through 30 years of popular music, but that not to say they aren't heavily indebted. Liam's vocal style is basically the same as Lennon's on I Am The Walrus.
everyone said Muse and Coldplay sounded like Radiohead. Clearly the correct comparisons were Queen and that irritating guy who runs an acoustic night just so he can try and stop being a virgin.
while Muse/Queen is something I've thought a lot. Didn't realise anyone ever said Coldplay sounded like Radiohead. Odd people in this world.
Coldplay were the heirs to Radiohead's guitar music throne when the latter went all Kid A. But yeh still bollocks.
for a while any band that had acoustic guitars was the "new Radiohead" because there was a band that was really all about the ballads. Including, at one utterly ridiculous point, Travis.
"The Invisible Band" by Travis in my ex's flat, and it sounded a lot like a watered down OK Computer
I always thought that came off the first muse album. You can kind of understand it from the guitar tone here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NZlwe4bwEE
and while it seems utterly bizarre now, you can hear him 9or their take on him, however "bad" taht mat be) all over Parachutes and the EPs before that.
hmm some spelling issues there
(or their take on him, however "bad" that may be)
but then it was not.
you can see it here
theres an obvious overlap and I dont think its lazy journalism to say 'like'. Its not 'the same as'. If i were to 'walk like a penguin' that wouldnt make me a penguin would it?
oddly,Interpol always sounded more like obscure 80s postpunkers my Dad is dead. Who were clearly going for the joy division thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn9uysgaXTM
The music itself, even there, is pretty different. I have heard other comparisons to The Chameleons, which makes (slightly) more sense in terms of the actual playing.
My Dad is Dead are probably my favourite band. You should come round one day and we'll listen to all their albums. In a row. Twice.
Liam did try to look exactly like Lennon for a while and a lot of their aesthetic has always been a bit indebted. As far as songs go I vaguely remember that the Masterplan was supposed to have bits of a Beatles song in it and don't look back in anger has the same intro as Imagine. They did a lot of covers of Beatles songs at the beginning as well so there might be some more steals or times when they'd sung beatles lyics to fit halfway modified versions of their own songs that made it seem like they're more similar to each other than they are.
but the importance of being idle is pretty much a straight rip on I'm only sleeping :|
Otherwise, clear influence...but Oasis just aren't any good...
importance of being idle is the only oasis song I can stand :/
"antony sounds like nina simone" - in what world? more like bryan ferry. antony WISHES he sounded like nina simone.
and they would spend hours discussing the stone roses debut- talking about Mani's backing vocals- listen to "where angels play" then listen to slight return.
I think they were at very least heavily influenced. I also think they are one of the U.K's mostly wrongly forgotten bands.
i know influence is a complex thing etc etc, BUT, i'm not that into the Beatles or Oasis and off the even off the top of my head:
- They covered and released(in some form i think) I am the Walrus, Octopuses Garden and All you need is love.
- Don't look back in anger is a lot like imagine
- Lots of stuff off Be here now is orchestrally similar
- That one they did that sounds like i'm only sleeping
- That one they did that sounds like Rain
- Whatever is a direct melodic rip off of 'how sweet to be an idiot', itself a parody of the beatles (ironically), so much so that oasis fofieted royalty payments to Innes.
-intro to fade out/Helter skelter
-outro to she's electric/little help from my friends
-all around the world/hey jude- outro
-my sweet lord/supersonic guitar solo
Plus loads and loads of direct, unchanged lyrics that are re-used and referenced.
Not a value judgement at all, but the OP (unless i missed the joke- probable) seems a little off the mark; i can't think of a popular band with a more direct and obvious influence that have come about in my life time.
they won't look back in anger.
Gene - The Smiths
discussing with a chum how they were already better than the Smiths.
Oh the idiocy of youth!
I seem to remember that comparison being made in the NME loads at the time..
i still find it baffling that the early press used to bang on about such a comparison.
Now, if they'd have said 'Brett sounds like Bowie' and left it at that, they'd have been bang on the money. But during the 90s, like Oasis were a 'Beatles ripoff', Suede were a 'Bowie ripoff'.
This hasn't actually been mentioned once during their reunion.
'Indie' bands since The Strokes were FAR more prone to direct referencing and shamelessly ripping off than the 90s lot, who somehow suffered millions more accusations of ripping people off.
Libertines, Kaiser Chiefs, all those bands. And pretty much all of the bands NME used to dick on about when Mc Nicholas was in charge.
though don't forget that other great 90s obsession, banging on about stuff being real music.
I remember hearing the first accusations of The Strokes being direct rip-off merchants from the Velvet Underground and the Ramones.
I subsequently listened to and enjoyed both bands but so absolutely no direct similarities whatsoever. I thought Television were the most ripped-off band by The Strokes but no one cares about them apparently.
Which was nice, cos I was about 16 and it got me into Television. I think these comparisons are useful like that for noobs, even if they're woefully inaccurate for everybody else.
Not sure I ever remember reading a Strokes/Ramones reference, but it doesn't surprise me.
To be honest, I was more talking about bands that came after them but your point stands about those particular comparisons.