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That's weird, it still sounds great though.
Hope the new one's out soon.
To make up for panning probably the most influential album of the '00s.
i didn't realise DiS was a day older than Kid A.
Here's our re-appraisal of it from a year or so ago http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4136425
i think Mr Diver took it down as people kept bringing it up all the time. its not like we commission any reviewer to give a sanctioned opinion but people think that is the case, but there is no party-line to toe 'round these parts. it's many of our favourite records so I think if people are gonna keep referring to that review above all else, it kinda made sense not to be there. although obviously nothing is ever really deleted on the internet.
This is the link I was looking for: http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4136425-radioheads-kid-a-the-dis-re-appraisal#r4466215
it looks/looked pretty lame.
its not like we made a big deal of taking it down, it's just one of 1000s of reviews we've run over the past 10 years.
it became something bigger, and the site ended up looking like they had no conviction in their, or in their individual writer's, beliefs.
you're massively overstating it. it isn't like we've done this with more than a couple of things EVER. Kid A is a seminal work, and there wasn't even a discussion about taking the review down. I'm not even sure if it was Mike who took it down, it may have been Rob Webb or even Graham himself (although he hasn't been involved in DiS for quite some time).
much like people being able to post whatever threads they want, it isn't like we actively commissioned reviews back then, it was just whoever uploaded it first did the review. this would have gone up literally a few days after the site went live.
what's done is done. i didn't do it. get over it. move on. be passionate about music you love or linger over the encyclopaedic details of the past.
i'm just having a discussion.
Is he a Cod, Plaice or Battered Sausage man? DIScuss.
No idea what his eating habits are though. Fnar fnar.
selection of Kid A remixes and covers now up on http://drownedinsoundcloud.com/
and "Oui" by The Sea and Cake. Trufax.
At least that's when it charted.
I feel a fool.
there are more rock fans than most other types of music, with the exception of pop, but fewer pop albums reach the reputative status as rock albums
never change, Leo, never change
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they also used an ondes martenot, and humans making sheep noises, and ambient sound noises including conversations which aren't really meant to be there, but are just about audible, not to mention the fact there are loads of guitars all over the place, yet people "couldn't hear them" at the time, none of it was innovative, but it made an album that a lot of people found very interesting
it's a popular album, by one of if not the most listened to bands on last.fm
regardless of it's diversity, reasonably popular. again,, i didn't mean the narrow genre of "pop" music, i meant mainstream music; that which spans the widest audience.
and stop talking to yourself you massive arseparsnip
do we have to go back to the beginning of the argument? telling people to shut up and calling them stupid is also hardly a mature way to hold yourself in a discussion
sure they didn't write the structures of songs that were on OK Computer, but they managed to produce an album of music with understated stand out songs that people bang on about but don't rave about, yet still argue that the album is their best. (i can't really decide, it's more of a mood thing) I think it's incredibly well put together as an album, with a structure much more mature than anything they'd done before.
yet songs are a much less complicated art form than arrangements. you've also pretty much reiterated my point
and possibly vice versa. Still not sure why anyone would voluntarily listen to Thom Yorke though.
Go and listen to it again. It is stupendous.
The diffrence is that Radiohead acctualy infiltrated electronic music a bit. You'd hear idioteque and maybe a few others in electronic DJ sets at the time. None of the others you mentioned ever really got close to that. Its a two way thing and even though Blur, REM and Mansun used electronics at some point they didn't even come close to crossing over into the electronic world for pretty obvious reasons really. Radiohead did cos they sounded like a band really embracing electronic influences. They have passion for it just read the dead airspace and look at all the electronic stuff they mention: Four Tet, Aardvarck, Aphex Twin, Joe, Blawan, Massive Attack, The Gaslamp Killer, Ras G, Flying Lotus, Gonjasufi, Samiyam, Untold, DVA, Mark Pritchard, Martyn, dbridge, Illum Sphere... All mentioned in the last year and a bit.
they came well over a decade after the first wave of bands using electronics. I've got nothing against those bands at all. I dig a little of each. 13 was one of my faves as a kid and Furries have always been interesting, Up even has a couple of good tracks. But I dunno I just think you're stuck in some kind of brippop time warp if you think that those guys have any relation to the progression of electronic music in indie circles, not to meaning for that to sound harsh but I'm half expecting you to say something like the Bluetones invented blog-house. Radiohead where just pretty important you can prob put them next to the likes of Joy Division for their roll in it, but Radiohead did it with the 00s with all those influences. It also helps that Kid A and even Amnesiac are killer albums.
I dont think Radiohead where trying to resurect anything it seems like they wanted to do their own version of Warp style eletcronica of the time. It wasnt looking forward or back it was pretty current. It just happens to still stand up just like Druqks does by Aphex Twin or the odd bit of Squarpusher. Plus 'If' was a banger!
Why would it even affect you if they did? Presumably you wouldn't buy it or have to hear it anyway? I admit it could be a little annoying for one week having this forum full of "omg the new radiohead is so great/lifechanging/awful" threads, but that's about the only possible impact I can think of.
They released four shitty records in a row, you can't tell me that doesn't make the first two really great ones look like a fluke.
(note: this has nothing to do with my interest in Radiohead. They're one of my all-time favorite bands.)
The last bastion of good taste has spoken. Seriously though, how can you stand to be around yourself all day?
Does that mean people will stop talking about it now?
Possibly favourite in fact. I was listening to it a few days ago without realising the big anniversary was coming up. Time to give it an anniversary spin methinks.
a pop band liked warp too guys, get over it
Until 10 years ago, I had first vinyl pressings of every single Warp release. I set fire to the lot 3 days after hearing Idioteque.
I played it at CBGB's.
Everyone thought it was crazy.
I wonder how many minutes will pass before someone claims every word is true, including the bit about Pop Is Dead, and despite the fact that that now leaves them on a level playing field with the man who later gave 8/10 to an album the band promptly withdrew claiming it wasn't good enough.
amazing. Mark Beaumont is a very lovely man and very passionate music fan. Be really curious what he thinks of it ten years on?
and generally has extremely polarized opinions. Its either the next big thing or the worst thing ever
We need to get in touch with Simon Cowell - get Joe McElderry back on to do the national anthem