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you lucky bastards.
i really wanna go to this though.
so everything and everyone costs double to book
don't exactly tour regularly, and i wouldn't mind having the choice of seeing them on a non-NYE date when it won't be so expensive. I love ATP, I have been to a shitload of events and look forward all year to the festivals but £40 for a gig is dangerously close to the pricing people out and being comparable to a cavernous stadium gig - something ATP is supposed to be the antidote to. I would probably prefer corporate sponsorship and reduced ticket prices than £40 gigs for bands who seem to exclusively play ATP events... meh, just don't make £40 gigs the norm, please ;) the Soft Bulletin gig is £40 too.
it was about £30, and as Jamie said everywhere is a lot more pricey on NYE sadly.
i will buy a ticket to this anyway, can people estimate when it sell out?
the daydream nation shows were only £25
and would usually jump at this
but Hammersmith Apollo fucking sucks
and it being NYE when *all* the dicks come out to play
and having to get back to civilisation from west London
means I ain't touching this.
Oddly if it had been Brixton Academy (just as far from where I live, but Brixton isn't twat central) I may have been tempted
no, it's just full of insane people. can you imagine being turfed out onto the main stretch there at 3am on New Year's Eve? jfk
but I can think of better places to be on New Year's Eve.
Maybe that just means I'm a pauper. But I don't go to see bands in enordomes, so the only time I pay through the nose is when ATP put a gig on.
Never really had a good time at gigs on NYE though. Hmm.
to see Kylie Minoise play NYE, sadly. Cant we have a world where ATP put on sonic youth and other promoters do other things?
they aint played here since i saw um on the murray street tour about ten years ago! im there!
I'm on it
.. but hopefully I will be going. Depends on who else is up for it really. Also says on the official website there is a drink promotion with Carlsberg £2.80, House Vodka and Mixer £2.80 and Bottles of VS £2.80.
Did you book at Seetickets ot Ticketmaster, could explain why it was so much
have you any idea if the band have European dates planned or is it just a couple of one-off dates
i really don’t understand people complaining about the pricing of this. you’d pay at least £20 to see Sonic Youth or Shellac by themselves, combine that with the fact it’s NYE and everywhere is expensive to get in, i think this is a bit of a bargain...
and it's west london which is always full of dicks, so you get a double dick quotient
and hammersmith apollo is rubbish, really. seen some great bands there, it's always sucked.
THis and your post above about getting 'back to civilisation' from West London - 'cause Hammersmith is really hard to get to/from.
Stooges were excellent at the Apollo in May.
just every time I go to west London (last time was last week, it's not like I go once every two years and base my opinion on that) it seems to be full of twats.
Getting home from Hammersmith is fine most of the time but on NYE is going to be a horror.
Yeah I saw Stooges at the Apollo when they did Fun House, again they were excellent but that was one of the gigs that made me hate the Apollo.
mate, what does it matter if someone on a messageboard doesn't like your part of town?
There are (decent and understandable) explanations for it being £40, but saying it's a bargain... woah. Market forces and demand drive price, so if it's very full/sold out then it's acceptable pricing. But I wouldn't say it's a bargain. It's not like either of the bands, or Steve Albini or Thurston Moore would have been likely to double their fees just cause it's NYE? I don't particularly care what date on the calender a gig falls on so to say just because it's a NYE then it's a bargain is silly and I doubt that many people at the gig will be more excited for the date than the line up.
My initial point was that after the Soft Bulletin gig being £40 (though I understand Flaming Lips have an elaborate stage set, and D.Junior and Deerhoof are pretty big acts), and this one too, I hope it doesn't become a habit and I have to spend £40+bf (or at the festivals themselves) to see some of my favourite bands who seem to exclusively play ATP events.
no, but the fine fine people who own the Hammersmith Apollo most likely have done.
not the bands. moot point though...
OK not Factory Floor, but Shellac and SY will be paying more for their flights because of the time of year.
Why on earth do you think they wouldn't?!
but £40 jesus
although sonic youth in manchester the night before is tempting...
Is the apollo a seaetd venue? I hate seated gigs.
It was all seats when i went to see the wiggles..........
£40 is fair-ish, considering it runs on until 3 am. Considering it.
Once ATP's friends at Ticketmaster get their hands on it, it will be about £47.
If you are going to grumble, grumble correctly.
Sonic Youth-ised Auld Langs Aye that's worth £40 of anyone's cash.
But for that amount of cash I demand to see Steve Albini and Lee Renaldo come on at midnight and do a Blues Brothers style revue of R&B classics to boogie the new year in. Something special to mark the occasion... much as I love SY they're hardly a "party" band are they?
The defence of "but it's new years eve" doesn't apply when the fact it is that night adds nothing but miserable transport and idiots everywhere outside.
Killer line up, and if i was in london I would def go. But really, gigs shouldn't cost more than Premiership football games.
so transport is actually better
I am all over this gig though. Anyone know if there's a presale?
I will PM it to you
with this gig and the Soft Bulletin gig I can say from my perspective ATP have priced themselves out of the market.
good one, champ.
at £22 aren't exactly cheap either.
2 headline bands for £22 in a big venue is exactly what you'd expect to pay...if anything a little less.
other moments i've been surprised by ATP's pricing but that certainly isn't one of them...
I guess for me I just have this £20 mark in my head, and anything beyond that has to be really worthwhile for me to want to go.
and probably will continue to do so because people don't buy records like they used to, and even those that do pay less for them than they did 10 years ago.
the whole "I'm not going outside on NYE, there will be idiots outside" thing baffles me. It's Earth, there's fucking morons everywhere. Shouldn't stop you going to see a band you like, surely?
during the week before, when you would also be able to travel to and from the gig with ease, and by ATP's reckoning they could charge a whole lot less for it if it wasn't on NYE, so that would be a win in every direction.
i really wanna see SY and Shellac (though i've seen them a lot before, all at ATP festivals/gigs) but there is a far cheaper way of putting this gig on, and I don't know who really cares that it is on NYE.
diff night youd save a tenner max , hardly worth all the backlash really
i will still love ATP forever
How much do people think this show should cost then? In real life terms, not made up "£5 and you get a free Wagon Wheel" ones.
But feature, event gigs like this should be £28.50, all in. And before everyone gives examples of worse gigs that cost more, they too should be 25% cheaper.
I understand why gig prices have rocketed, but unfortunately over the same period my pay hasn't, so, I'm sorry, they suddenly look bastard expensive.
... with that price normally. New Years eve I would expect the price to go up as i'm sure the Apollo are charging them much more then normal. £40 is too much really tho at least they have negotiated a few cheap drinks...
Rocketing gig tickets doesn't mean I pay more, it means I go to less. And I can understand the "event" gigs costing more, as they'll probably sell out on the basis of being unique.
But things like BBS or Spoon being around the £20 mark, before booking fees, makes me waver towards not seeing them. It really doesn't seem that long ago that tickets for those size bands in mid-size venues were under £15 at the most. I do think though that ATP are charging higher than other promoters - why £22 for BBS when of Montreal at the same venue is £14?
Because of Montreal are not co-headlining with Tortoise who would charge at least £15 + fees if they were doing their own show
All is forgiven, then.
it would be difficult to make this show cheaper but they could maybe do a few £5-£10 cheaper early bird tickets. Or make sure some tickets are sold through wegottickets or an outlet that won't add really high booking fees/postage.
Could you PM the link if it is please?
tooo! if poss of course :) id love u forever (dont let that put u off! haha)
if there are any left
and Factory Floor. Or maybe just one of them.
is anyone still PM'ing this? Would be much obliged.
I just have to persuade the gang now.
Nice work ATP.
would pay £40+bf for a rock gig with bands they don't really know on NYE. Feel like if i go it'll be with one or two people max. If there was an atp weekend at butlins for NYE it would be the best thing ever, it would be great to be in self-containing bubble type thing with great music and accommodation like the festivals on a night of the year that is usually an anti-climax. Though I'm sure butlins already have very profitable events on anyway.
Is it only 3 bands btw? No more to be added? A six-band mega night like that Shellac Release The Bats night the other year would make it pretty amazing and an epic night, not sure if DJ's could take my attention for all that other time in the night.
I've posted too much in this thread. I am just getting into real life after being a student for ages, if I get a job then £40 for a night like this won't seem a big deal at all. Fingers crossed.
in the Circle Seats :D
In the second paragraph there I used the word 'night' FOUR times :(
having trouble with the presale?
is this actually at Apollo and not the Academy and if so is the presale an o2 only affair?
... I assume the first 4 hours will be like normal gig with Sonic Youth ending just after midnight, celebrating the new year etc, and the essential it will become just like a club, with the people in the seats able to go anywhere etc?
Wonder if they will be selling to capacity, a club that crowded for the last 3 hours wouldn't be much fun....
ATP replied to my post on FB asking a similar question... apparently Sonic Youth with come onstage "around midnight".
tickets booked and am very excited. Yes £40 (or nearer £46 after all the bastard fees) is too much but y'know what I'm not gonna miss out on seeing what will be a monumental show just to save a tenner or so. If it means I have to have one less night out this month because of ticket price then I can live with that. Priorities etc.
also support in Manchester
Like London but wetter
that's quite a line-up, must be said.
Anyone know what Sonic Youth have been playing recently? Last time I saw them they played just about every track from the Eternal, and about 3 oldies. Needless to say, it was a bit shit.
The time before that, however, they blasted through Brother James, Schizophrena, the Sprawl, Kool Thing etc etc, and it was just astonishing.
in Las Vegas last weekend, but nothing past "Bull In Heather", & totally amazing.
If he is, expect a lot from the Eternal and some Daydream Nation tunes. Otherwise, if he's not, on current form seems to be all oldies.
the pop group were amazing few weeks ago. Even more amazing now!
to london too