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if you removed vocals from Neon Indian a lot of his music sounds like Super Monkey Ball
still good though
90s Foo Fighters were fucking excellent
Most of the music I bought in the 90s was fucking shite
Except weirdly most of the E.P.s I purchased
E.P.s in the 90s rocked.
(See: Broadcast, Idlewild, Mogwai, Arab Strap, mclusky, Kenickie, Dubstar, REM, Elastica, Urusei Yatsura...)
^ Deserves its own thread ^
My MP3 player has broken.
Think I've fixed it now guys. Thanks for your concern.
No, I was right. It's buggered.
Someone lend me £100? Cheers.
I'm probably going to be selling my 80gb iPod next month / in October
Colour me interested. I'll pay you in Energy Drinks.
I need real £££
but I'll let you know.
(It's 2yrs old but still works fine - I just want to buy a 160gb one as this one is full)
Given the choice of listening to the five best Joy Division songs or five best New Order songs I'd definitely choose the latter.
Beyond that New Order did a lot of shit though.
New Order were a great singles band
Bardo Pond were a good band weren't they?
spending some time listening to their discography at the moment. Cool psychedelic rock thing going on.
yep
been listenning to then quite a lot recently. very consistent band, though I think Lapsed is my favourite still
yes
followed closely by amanita
+1 for Lapsed.
i didn't mean to ^this this
i meant to vote +1 for Dilate
Anyone that's thinking of ever using an accordion
should just hurry up and get on with it and get it out of the way and then we can all just get back to normal.
Hot Chip are the new Devo in many ways
but nowhere near as masterful of their craft
I'd say:
Blue > Pink >>>>> With Love & Squalor >>> Green Album >> Maladroit >> Red > [N/A]
French is a good language
to rap in
nah. it's all about these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CX5ocKPUrM
I have that album
It's really not.
31st March, 2037
I've diarised this date at the day I will stop finding Bumsnogger artist tags funny.
my jane doe vinyl arrived
hurrah!
I only got my shipping notice today. booooooooooo
I often find myself singing along to Finch
for no reason
The Jokers of the Scene remix of Count & Sinden's "Mega"
would sound much better if they removed all references to the original track.
i've paid for the £5 spotify.
it really, really shits on the free version.
Does anyone use the new facebooky-spotify features that people were so excited by?
no.
Yes.
I just use it to assess the music taste of an attractive girl and show off by making playlists.
Chairs Missing by Wire is an absolutely perfect album
theoretically in my top 5 records ever these days
The Mayo Thompson album
Corky's Debt to his Father is an under-appreciated gem of an album, it's almost ridiculous that something so great can have been so ignored for so long.
I need to get it, huh?
what's it like? (musically, that is)
It's a little bit like
Captain Beefheart compositions played by the Stray Gators. Lyrically it's beyond good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNLICR7uCKY&feature=search
It's brilliant.
TV on the Radio's Dancing Choose
was originally on their 'debut' album 'Ok Calculator' and was called 'Pulse of Pete'.
If I was a music snob I'd say the original version is better...I'm not, but it is.
Where can I listen to this fidd
pressed enter prematurely
but I think 'fidd' works. Add a ? on the end, though.
I googled it with little success
The only song I've heard from that album is Bicycles Are Red Hot. Pretty good but weird for TVOTR.
erm...
not the same song. at all
I want to be in a tribute band called Wham 69.
Covering Sham 69 songs in the style of Wham.
I wanna be in a Band tribute band called The Tribute Band
^ Alex Ferguson, in disguise, circa 2005
I wish someone would reissue both Van Pelt albums
the first one in particularly seems to go for silly money on amazon :'(
It will cost £120 and you will complain
This is very nearly true.
CRONIN
Chief, as long as you're not on that list I'll consider myself happy.
harsh
Someone needs to remaster the kyuss albums
No matter what you do they never sound loud enough.
i'd also appreciate a rerelease of the first qotsa album which he's been promising for years
and hell while we're at it - where the hell is that loveless remaster that was all ready to go a couple of years ago - surely he can't still be writing the liner notes?
they sound loud enough if you turn up the volume
give it a go
Twas what I was about to say.
Volume knob should be your bff.
liner notes are serious business
The Loveless remaster was finished
just never released anywhere outside of Japan. Both that and isn't anything can be found online in FLAC formats if you wish. Don't usually promote illegal downloads but seeing as there is an maybe never will be any other way, don't see a problem with it. Loveless sounds a little better. It's a little louder but Isn't Anything is a revelation. Gone is it's thin production. Seek them both out.
Any proof of this?
I remember reading a review about 3 years ago of the 'remastered' edition of Loveless, in which the reviewer said he couldn't really hear much difference, maybe some slightly louder drums on one or two tracks. Then proceeded to just talk about the album generally for the next 900 words or so. He blatantly was just listening to the original album, not any sort of remaster.
No proof
that the copies I have are legitimate as they were obtained by illegal means. Apparently what happened is they were ripped from promos. There were definitely promos floating around of the Loveless and Isn't Anything remasters though, it's pretty well documented. It's quite possible someone just mucked around with Loveless themselves but I'm inclined to think isn't anything is legit because it's night and day. Think is though there shouldn't be a large difference with Loveless. It's a remaster, not a remix. They're just retransferring the audio from DAT to cd so the only difference is any compression that was used post master. Loveless has always sounded great to me anyways, just wish the levels were a little higher and they are on the supposed remaster so I'm inclined to believe it's legit as well. There's also a version that's taken from the analog tapes as opposed to the DAT and predictably the difference is barely audible. The reason Isn't Anything sounds so different is because the original transfer to cd wasn't so great and a lot of compression was used post master. The levels and compression are all wacky on Loveless anyhow because that's part of it's sound.
If you remaster those records any louder
they'll start clipping and you'll be cutting off the peaks. They're already pretty loud.
This wasn't supposed to be here at all, oops.
Ain't nothin' goin' on but the rent by Gwen Guthrie
makes me dance like a slag.
Lady Gaga isnt very good at music
air drumming comes much more naturally than air guitaring doesn't it
while listening to certain songs. in fact i don't think i've ever done the latter
Teenage Fanclub really are super
*a teency bit boring
WRONG!
Johnny Marr is a bit of a slut.. band wise
Dance yrself clean
Seems like a cheap rip off of Talking Heads that I feel ashamed for liking.
Stay with me (some of these need answers)
Deerhoof rip off the Beatles and Ringo a whole lot
NOFX are genuinely a poor quality band and it makes me sad. Lagwagon were far superior.
The Cows are still the greatest band of all time
That Conan album I bought is shit
The USAisamonster are the best noise prog band centered around the plight of the American Indian ever
I can't work out what's good about Eddy Current Suppression Ring but am unable to stop listening to them
Everyone should listen to the Wrangler Brutes album Zulu, it's great.
MV/EE are just folk Royal Trux aren't they I hadn't noticed before
Nobody seems to care about the newest Harvey Milk album anymore but it's beeootiful genius.
eddy current suppression ring remind me of someone but i don't know
yeah maybe
I love their song about mams even though it's stupid "thanks for giving birth so I could walk this earth". It's all so simple, the lyrics, the guitar, EVEARYTHINGGG
I got that Harvey Milk album last week
but my ipod is currently full, and itunes makes it such a pain to remove stuff.
F*ck itunes
I use copy trans manager (only works with windows though).
Shit I'm gonna have to check out MV/EE.
:
i like the idea of the david karsten daniels and fight the big bull album but i don't really enjoy it at all. jazz/singsongwritering is probably quite hard though.
twoam by thee more shallows is one of my favourite songs.
i haven't listened to the ten records i bought a month ago and i just ordered 27 new ones off of tempest the other day.
my spotify is broken; it's said "my orifices await ravaging will play after the commercial message" for about 3 weeks.
i love the meters.
opinion:
27 records is too many :( they are just gonna sit there doing fuck all
i know but they were so cheap, i couldn't help myself
i think i wont get some of them anyway, the site melted. i can't really remember what i got except desalvo, lots of pit er pat, a kenmode record & a vaz record
Can't go wrong with Vaz, they're great!
Also when I saw them live the guitarist bloke was bashing into audience members and knocking them over on purpose. ROCH AND ROLL
He probably knows better than me
I could post a list of 27 records if you'd like though.
some of them are a bit :| in the cold non90%sale light of day
1 x Mirimar Disaster - Volumes [CD]Price £1.00
1 x Scale The Summit - Carving Deserts [CD]Price £1.60
1 x Pit Er Pat - High Time [CD]Price £1.00
1 x Karen Dalton - Cotton Eyed Joe [CD]Price £0.70
1 x Pit Er Pat - Pyramids [CD]Price £1.40
1 x Ken Mode - Reprisal [CD]Price £1.20
1 x Red Sparrowes/Made Out Of Babi - Triad [CD]Price £0.80
1 x Pit Er Pat - 3d Message [CDS]Price £0.45
1 x Vaz - Dying To Meet You [CD]Price £0.50
1 x Foe - Arm Yourself With Clairvoyance [CD]Price £0.50
1 x Kickass - Death Metal Is For Whimps [CD]Price £1.00
1 x Dysrhythmia - Pretest [CD]Price £1.26
1 x Jason Loewenstein - At Sixes And Sevens [CD]Price £0.90
1 x Motorpsycho - The Other Fool [CD]Price £0.82
1 x Arab Strap - Mad For Sadness [CD]Price £0.40
1 x Butthole Surfers - Rembrandt Pussyhorse [CD]Price £1.53
1 x Blood Island Raiders/Among The - Split [CD]Price £0.90
1 x Bullet Union - Ruins Domino [CD]Price £0.90
1 x Envy - Abyssal [CD]Price £0.70
1 x Minus - Jesus Christ Bobby [CD]Price £1.50
1 x Network - This Is Your Pigs Portrait [CD]Price £1.20
1 x Mission Of Berma - Horrible Truth [CD2]Price £1.45
1 x Xbxrx - Sounds [CD]Price £1.30
1 x Antioch Arrow - In Love With The Jets [CD]Price £1.30
1 x Castrovalva - Castrovalva [CD]Price £0.70
1 x Lovvers - Ocd Go Go Girls [CD]Price £1.00
1 x Desalvo - Mood Poisoner [CD]Price £1.05
i already have two of these
stupid
is it better than a bottle of fanta?
Any luck with tempest...
...I ordered 12 or so the other day. No confirmation email. Card not yet been charged and I've had no response to my emails.
i got a comfirmation email but i've not followed it up
have you seen the spiel in the bargains thread? seems legit.
I ordered 26 cds from there. Dunno how many I'll get. Mine were
1 x Silje Nes - Ames Room [CD] £0.90
1 x Pink Mountaintops - Outside Love [CD] £1.05
1 x Zephyrs - Bright Yellow Flowers On A Dar [CD] £0.60
1 x J Tillman - Year In The Kingdom [CD] £1.00
1 x Jackie O Motherfucker - Ballads Of The Revolution [CD] £1.00
1 x J Tillman - I Will Return/Long May You Run [CD2] £1.00
1 x A A Bondy - American Hearts [CD] £1.40
1 x Citay - Little Kingdom [CD] £1.00
1 x Samara Lubelski - Parallel Suns [CD] £1.10
1 x Scientists - Sedition [CD] £1.30
1 x Long Winters - Ultimatum [CD] £0.50
1 x Two Dollar Guitar - The Wear And Tear Of Fear [CD] £0.40
1 x Jason Mcniff - Another Man [CD] £1.05
1 x Concretes - The Concretes In Colour [CD] £0.80
1 x Mile End Ladies String Aux - From Cells Of Roughest Air [CD] £1.40
1 x Trespassers William - Having [CD] £1.30
1 x Kelley Stoltz - Below The Branches [CD] £1.20
1 x Howling Hex - 1 2 3 [CD] £1.40
1 x Howling Hex - Xi [CD] £1.20
1 x Greg Dulli - Amber Headlights [CD] £1.60
1 x Onlys - Limbic System [CD] £1.05
1 x Two Cow Garage - The Wall Against Our Back [CD] £0.40
1 x Nobukazu Takemura - Sign [CD] £1.20
1 x Rachels - The Sea And The Bells [CD] £0.90
1 x Clipd Beaks - Horse Lords [CD] £1.30
1 x Ulrich Schnauss - Goodbye [CD] £1.20
I am getting 15 of these. :-)
i got 9
weak
<3
The Meters
Jamie by Weezer
Is grunge-pop perfection, the acoustic version is equally as good and it's easily the most compassionate (bordering on a wussy) song about a lawyer of whcih I'm familiar with.
this thread has mileage
deerhunter just clicked proper
twilight at carbon lake w00
Big WOO for Deerhunter.
Turns out Avey Tare's Pullhair Rubeye is actually really decent
once you reverse it.
I thought that was the point.
Still haven't listened to it though.
"genre defying" why? when?
Seriously since when have "genre defying" mixes become the norm?
Bumsnogger and arsequake indeed.
There are too many bands
I can't keep up with them, and increasingly I can't be arsed to keep up with whoever this week's blog buzz is around.
Saw The Besnard Lakes in Manchester last week
and was disappointed that half the crowd had gone at the end before they came back on for the encore.
I don't think it was cos they thought they weren't any good, they'd come on really late as I think they had problems getting there, so people were probably thinking about last buses/taxis etc.
They were mega and I thought the people that left were bloody rude. If you're gonna go anywhere ever you should be prepared to stay to the very end (even if you don't do this often) otherwise your life becomes meaningless.
I am going to bed.
well i think they're bloody rude for doing an encore anyway.
Really?
Similar thing happened at their Bristol gig the other night- I would have dearly loved to stay till the end, but a combination of the last train leaving at ten past 11, and the Besnard Lakes not coming onstage till half-ten meant I saw very little. Frustrating as hell, but since I don't have loads of money for a taxi, or my own private rail service, it wasn't really an option. An earlier starting gig would have been preferable.
British Sea Power should be absolutely amazing live
but they're always disappointing. Every time I see their gigs advertised, I think 'amazing!i want to see british sea power!', almost order tickets and tell everyone I know about it, then realise that actually it'll be dull, and this always makes me feel a little sad.
I assure you
BSP sometimes are absolutely amazing. When on form, they are, for me, basically untouchable. I will admit though, sometimes it doesn't quite happen (energetic crowd, dull venue, bad sound etc.), but I would never say they were dull. And at their best, they destroy all.
I bought the Little Boots album last month for £1. I really like it.
Remedy's a tune
Nah, it's not
Wow, Remedy's even better than I remembered
(four times in a row so far)
'Stuck on repeat' is really good too
You're very right
I forgot how much I liked this when it came out...
Creston Spiers has one of the most imposing voices in modern rock music
truth
plus, you can only love the way he can switch from growling badass to that heartbreaking croon in an instant
What the hell is a dolphin-plated jeep?
How do you plate a jeep with dolphins anyway? Shouldn't the RSPCA or someone be informed?
traffic was slow for the crash years, there's no other show like it round here
I am still confused what emo really is
Is it only emo if you call yourself emo?
me too
and I swear half the music the emos I know listen to just sounds like JLS gone all angsty.
I really miss Help She Cant Swim
I listened to fashionista yesterday and it brought back all sorts of fun memories from a few years back. Woe.
Lonely Ghosts
might scratch that itch for you. if we're doing proper replies. we are aren't we?
www.myspace.com/lonelyghosts
hooray to you!
Also in relation to French Rap, Cuban Is a lot better
Purely for the fact that Orishas exist.
The new Foals album is brilliant
Cheers for the thread - I'm only 3-4 months late with this observation!
I heard Max Richter's Infra. Found it very moving. Another buy for this year.
Also I like this thread.
Snoop Dogg is a collaboration whore, but I love him for it
Frontwards is too good a song to be a B-side
also one of the best Pavement tracks lyrically
Also
The Peel recordings at the end of Slanted and Enchanted: Luxe and Reduxe Disc 1 are possibly my favourite Pavement songs. Circa 1762 and Kentucky Cocktail are brilliant.
there have many songs too good to be b-sides
that's what makes their deluxe editions so worthwile (also Westing by Musket and Sextant)
Cassettes - Why?
Like all their others, surely?
'Chill out' music is the only type of music that makes me angry
Just don't listen to it then.
TA-DA!
Next week I'll be resolveing the Middle East Conflict with an old copy of Nick Drake's Pink Moon and a signed life size poster of Mellissa Auf Der Maur.
I'm a freelance graphic designer
Sadly, I have precious little choice most of the time as EVERY FUCKING STUDIO EVER puts it on in the background to be inoffensive...
EXACTLY THIS
2 days now I've had on loop here: Air, Zero 7, Sia, various Hed Kandi Mood, Ambient moods compilation...
Oh, the irony...
Arcade Fire - We Used To Wait
So much better than their old stuff.
I don't care!!
Who doesn't?
Those notorious twee shamblers Arcade Fire, there
Mogwai use a vocoder very well.
Despite it probably not being the best album of the year
my most listened to album is Beach Fossils. I just think it's ace and keep going back to it.
Where's the Forest Swords thread gone?
:|
It's still around!
On Page 2, though initially I thought it had fallen victim to DiS Board Syndrome.
it's not in my board posts
in fact - why are there so few threads in my board posts?
You've fallen victim to DiS Board Syndrome
-Well excited about the new Limp Bizkit record.
-Adebisi Shank are the future of music.
-Pulled Apart By Horseseseses album is utterly savage and an excellent debut.
- If they do 11 new songs like 'Counterfeit', I'm in
- I've only heard one song. It was ok. Are they noisy? That song wasn't.
- Agreed. In my top 3 of the year.
I do wish Boards of Canada would do something.....
I've not once clicked on that Witch House thread
good effort!
not even a quick click and changed your mind before it opened?
pretty sure
now you're going to tell me I posted in it or something and make me look really stupid, right?
Ctrl + F > guntrip = Phrase not found
phew.
I wish Damon Che would break up Don Cab
and reform the Speaking Canaries
My iPod is 7 years old.
I've never heard a song by The Fall, that I know of.
John Denver & The Muppets Christmas album is the best Christmas album.
Phil Spector shits on the Muppets.
....but it feels a wee bit wrong talking about it (in August.)
Never heard it and didn't grow up listening to it,
so I cant compare. Its probably awesome tho.
The MBV albums are fine as they are and don't really need re-issuing.
Shields' energies (such as they are) would be far better employed in creating a new MBV album.
Agree that shields really ought to finish the new record
and as I said up there, Loveless benefits little from the remaster and doesn't have room to benefit anyways short of a remix but Isn't Anything was in dire need of a remastering and sounds great.
So the boredoms are a bit brilliant like...
Had Vision Creation Newsun for years but the penny has finally dropped
\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5unz3fUstqk
opnion: I FUCKING LOVE KIRK
Heard a track off Cathal Coughlan's new album today.
Thought it was great. An upcoming download from emusic methinks...
Its like...
a collection of ZERO reply threads all in one place.
Lyle will be bumping this thread for years to come.
it's dead good
we should have one every week, i can do brainfarts without the ignominy of zero replies.
Bands that play excessively loud at gigs
are a pain in the arse.
Gomez - Bring It On
doesn't have one bad song on it.
And what the bollox....
is chill-wave and witch-house. If that's how you spell it. Am I just lazy or does the genre name just make it sound appalling?
Excited as I am about GYBE reforming
It's generally better if much loved bands stay where they were: in the past. After seeing MBV a couple of times in the last couple of years, I feel something's been lost - the mystery, probably.
you said I must eat so many lemons, coz I am so bitter
I said I'd rather be with your friends mate, coz they are much FITTARR
that song brings back bad memories.
my spanish teacher used to sing this.
he was like 50.
ahaha.
WE BRING THE STARS OUT
WEBRINGTHEWIMMINANDTHECARSANDTHECARDSOUT
something something something GLASS OUT
WE CAN KEEP THIS TIL WE PASS OUT
I think that may be my favourite chart tune of this year.
Yep.
how did so many pisspoor acts shift 10s of millions of records in the mid-90s?
Hootie & the Blowfish and Matchbox20 both sold like 11m in a year
not even Nickelback can push those kinda figures anymore
Hootie & The Blowfish's major label debut
was the highest selling album in the US in 1995, with 10.5m copies. By 1999 this had risen to 16m. It is currently the 15th best selling album of all time.
v_v
if Scout Niblett was my girlfriend I'd make her sing to me all the time
*fellate
Janelle Monae's album drops off quite severely in the second half
well, actually, not that extreme
but towards the end it drags on a bit
I thought the same thing
but for me it's a clicker - just took a few listens.
I like a lot of it
but tracks 2-7 slay. plus Oh, Maker. then it gets into more meandering territory.
I've just been listening from Wondaland onwards
to test my opinion out and it's all pretty great. But yeah, it meanders a lot - some of the tunes sound more like exerts from a musical. But I think that might be what I like so much about it, it hasn't been artificially tightened up and had all the life sucked out.
I've been listening in chunks (a bit like the Joanna Newsom LP) and maybe that helps cos whenever I listen to it from the beginning I'm just waiting for Tightrope and then miss it once it's over and it's inevitably a bit disappointing.
I'm currently listening to Rough Trade Counter Culture '09 and REALLY enjoying dismissing bands after only one song.
And, in the interests of fairness, writing down those I may investigate again.
BUT MAINLY DISMISSING STUFF.
I think I would be too, having glanced at that tracklisting.
Pissed Jeans though. That's nice.
I tell you what, the second CD is much better.
None of that wishy-washy bollocks. Or not so much of it, anyway.
Apart from that sodding Drums song. GOOD. GOD.
(I've still not (knowingly) heard anything by The Drums)
Rough Trade always make Disc 2 of those compilations better. They should fire whoever makes Disc 1 with all those ironic world music cover versions of Beatles' tunes.
Still, better than what we have on here. A chill out tune that genuinely goes: 'If it wasn't for this / And it wasn't for that / Then it would be a better world / If we learn to love each other / And live like sister and brother / Then it could be a better world'
I don't know what I've done to deserve this.
I've always found that with the Rough Trade end of year compos, CD1 is so lame.
I tried playing one, and it was like "WTF... LAME" and never listened to it. The most recent one came bundled with an indie-pop CD which put me off, I fucking hate indie pop.
Caribou's 'Jamelia'- song of the year?
luke lalonde's vocals are pure perfection
Happy to see the love for this.
My favourite song on the album, and it was great live.
"The Gift" by The Jam is a really good album by a really good band. A BAND.
The second Elastica album is ALMOST as good as the debut
the little whirring sound an ipod makes when you fire it up
is nice and good
Don't tease me :(
it reminds me of a sleeping kitten.
your one probably didn't do it anyway, unless it was actually an ipod and you were just being coy calling it an MP3 player
The first band i saw were the Wonderstuff and it was the best thing the 13 year old me had ever seen
Then when they reformed i went to see them in Dudley and they were fucking ace again.
Tom Fleming of Wild Beasts
is the best looking chap in music
Pavement were pretty pretty pretty pretty shit
when they played in London the other month. I really like them, and enjoyed them everytime I saw them before but that gig was my biggest musical dispapointment of the year.....maybe century. Phoned it in.
I no longer believe that 'Ritual of Names' will ever be released
:(
I like Fugazi
but I don't love them in the way I always thought I one day would.
People who complain about the production on 'The Destruction of Small Ideas' are deaf idiots
who need to get a decent stereo.
the people who complain about the production on the destruction of small ideas
just want to listen to it in the car/on headphones whilst out walking/in any situation other than sat in front of a big stereo.
Hmmmm.
If these same people then join in the moaning about how modern production is 'compressed to fuck' and bemoan the lack of dynamic range in modern music they do then come across as a tad hypocritical though...
no they don't - the porridge defence
they don't like records that are overly compressed, they don't like records whose dynamic range makes it impossible to listen to in anything but ideal circumstances. they like records that are mastered just right.
although i'm pretty sure most people going on about compression
are just parroting stuff they've seen sound engineers write on the internet
True, IME most people don't even understand what compression is
plus I think there is a tendency to get used to heavily compressed music to the point where music with a lot of dynamic range sounds flat and boring to those people. I'd any day though take music that is very quiet at parts and makes it hard to listen to in noisy areas over music that's really compressed. Some things, especially orchestral music too is supposed to have really quiet sections and it's not about poor mastering, it's about faithful audio reproduction.
i was playing devil's advocate a bit with my second post
i'm not claiming a happy middle ground really... my favourite record ever is raw power and that's all in the red and ofc lots of music really does need range beyond the ken of a set of cheap headphones on a loud train. i just don't like the idea that a record like the destruction of small ideas is the ideal that everyone should look toward and that compression is some evil force that came in with computers. different shoes for different feets.
Compression definitely isn't evil
and is necessary, especially with digital audio. It's certainly not an evil that's come about with computers but unfortunately because cd's have so much more bandwidth then analog formats, all of the producers who used to take up a good portion of an lp side to make special loud radio edits of songs realized they could instead just make the whole album really loud. Also since a little saturation with analog recording sounds good whereas with digital any clipping at all is completely out, compression has to be used more though with digital recording the levels can be far far higher then a saturated analog recording so moreso my last sentence I guess.
Raw Power is one of my favourite records ever as well but that's for me despite that it's in the red the whole time, or at least Iggy's remix is. I can't stand Bowie's version either though, it's thin and far too quite. In that case I would prefer a happy medium.
I'm rambling but I like Wavves which is obviously steeped in compression and digital distortion. I guess the way I look at it is Wavves was distorted and compressed as an artistic choice, it's supposed to sound like garbage whereas Raw Power wasn't intended to be like that because it wasn't recorded like that, just mastered that way. Iggy now is not Iggy of 1974. If you like it though, you like it. Audio quality is objective but music tastes are subjective. The loudness wars are definitely bandied about by all kinds of people who are just parroting audio engineers. Even reputable newspapers and magazines do stories on it that are essentially fluff pieces. I think there's definitely a problem with overuse of compression these days but it's no better then the horrible record pressings done by a lot of companies in the 70's etc. Bad sound quality for consumers is nothing new.
People who bitch and moan about any band that use screamed/growled vocals are annoying
but not as annoying as the 'tru-metal-4-eva' brigade who bitch and moan whenever a heavier band starts to incorporate clean vocals (e.g. ISIS, mastodon).
Every band should have a gospel choir phase
julie christmas of made out of babies and battle of mice and being the only female metal vocalist worth paying attention to fame has a solo record coming out and here are some songs off of it. http://official.fm/track/145839
my critical faculties may be thrown by how much i love her but they're really good.
Is it my or are the arctic monkeys a little bit overrated?
during the 90s The Manics and Suede both made some excellent b-sides.
Manics have continued being an amazing b-sides band pretty much throughout their career
Boxes and Lists
Quality recent Manics B-side
Each Holy Fuck record has been better than the last
Meaning that the next one will possibly be the best LP of all time.
The The The Repeat Peters
is the best band name ever; and it's mine.
the organ would have been really cracking stuff
if only they could play their instruments a little better than a bunch of music grade 3 kids trying to make some joy div/the smiths mix up.
Bands/artists getting really angry about leaks
and then purposefully releasing something in a fucked up form because of it should realise that they're only actually punishing the folks that don't suck up the leaks.
I don't know if anyone actually does this anymore, probably not.
^That Everything Everything advert is driving me mad
Buzzcocks are ace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1vQPEBlnI&feature=related
The Yo la tengo gig with
THE FUCKING SUN RA ARCHESTRA HORN SECTION is brilliant........ also, generally, having easy access to live bootlegs is one of the best things about music on the internet
Teenage Dirtbag is one of the best pop songs of the past decade
I def would have
jumped off a cliff by now if it weren't for music.
Oh and Eliott Smith is def the best songwriter of last twenty years...although Jeff Magnum is a close second.
Despite Phil Collins being a totally ridiculous man,
c.f. http://permanentplastichelmet.com/2010/05/31/phil-collins-in-popular-culture-4/
he is an outrageously brilliant drummer with a more diverse track record than you knew about
c.f. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77G0xF45weg
yeah, it's pretty strange to think he was part of that
70s english art rock scene
Man's Ruin Records put out some unbelievably good albums
and now they're lost
Clint Mansell's Moon score is something else
as if that movie wasn't perfect enough already
'We talk about dishwasher tablets'
spoils the Fever Ray album to a degree, personally.
Caribou
I am very excited about seeing them again at Offset this weekend. I can only hope that I don't have to watch them with people constantly chattering around me this time though.
sun sun SUN sun sun SUN SUN SUN sun sun SUN <}
Isnt it odd
that critics love to dissmiss stuff as "Prog-Rock Toss" but when something that actually is prog comes along it gets loads of 9/10 reviews.
The Chronic should really be credited as 'Dr Dre & Snoop Dogg'