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On a budget what do a need? A Mac? What software?
Even buying a mac seems pretty expensive!!
Limitations can inspire greatness!
But if you're going down the software route, pretty much a mac and ableton live or something.
(games, photoshop etc) as well. For some reason I always imagined macs to not have this problem..
I've never seemed to get on with using laptops, found it easier to muck about with hardware and pedals.
I REALLY need to start using my MPC again though, just don't have the time to find half decent samples, let alone think of how I'd use it live!
I mean any computer will become less efficient if it gets full of junk but basically you can actually use a mac and it will continue to function. Or like too many people you can use a PC and moan about how terrible macs are (aka like two of the keys are in a different place and you can't be bothered to learn how to use the very slightly different interface) and go back to your windows laptop which can't even play a youtube video any more because it's full of viruses...
,... uh wait what was the question?
buy a half decent mac on Ebay for not that much right? Any particular model?
I'm a bit of a technical gimp unfortuneatly although good for with instruments etc.
but try British Gas.
If you like it, buy a MIDI keyboard (£30?). You don't need a Mac.
because the site is blocked but try Reaper - free evaluation. Computer Music has a free software 'studio' every month. try that first to see what kind of setup suits you. Also try kvr-vsts (again can't link it) - thousands of FREE sofware applications and VSTs and VSTIs
And/or a tape recorder.
Electronic music was invented without computers or synthesisers.
When you're getting into computer music, it can be very easy to build up a vast amount of software tools, and then either become daunted, or just master none of them. Do your research, try stuff out, figure out what kind of sounds you want to create. And them limit yourself to a small collection of tools, which will form the core of your musical arsenal. You can then go and find extra stuff if you want to add a specific sound or whatever.
Gear wise: anything goes. Macs are indeed expensive. There's Reaper plus vsts on Windows like cerebralfreefall mentioned above. Then there's also the option of Linux, which I quite like to use. The Linux focus is on lots of separate tools connected by virtual cables (google 'Jack'). I think Macs use the same software actually. The problem with this method is that it is difficult to save all the programs so that you can open them all up together in the same state and continue your work. I kinda don't mind this because the whole cable metaphor seems to work better with my method of thinking, and I like the versatility it brings. It all depends on the way you like to work.
Once you've decided on your computer / software config, the first thing I would get would be a Midi keyboard. You can get 'em pretty cheap on ebay. Look for usb ones, to keep things simple. Try to look for one with lots of sliders and knobs and shit. You'll be able to map these to software parameters. It's also worth considering buying a standalone keyboard / synth with a midi out. That way, you have a controller as well as a hardware synth. You will have to buy a midi interface then though.
Speaking of interfaces, if you plan on recording any IRL audio, you'll need an audio interface. Figure out how many ins / outs you'll need. Unless you want to perform live with loads of gear, you should be fine with a 2 in / 2 out usb job. Now, don't make the mistake that I did initially and go buy the most basic Behringer job. If you want to record with mics, you'll want one with XLR inputs as well as 1/4" ones. Also, if you want to use a condenser mic (preferable for most stuff that isn't guitar amps or shouting really loudly, but you can even do those to if you want) then you'll want to look for one with phantom power.
There's lots of good sources of info out there. createdigitalmusic.com is good, KVR and it's forums, Tape Op (general recording / studio stuff) has a free subscription http://www.tapeop.com/ (recording with polvo!), and is an interesting read. Any a million other websites forums and books out there.
That'll do for now. There's probably a million mistakes in there as I'm only a novice myself. Good luck!
others seem to have suggestions for non-computer stuff though.
£50! it's well fun, and works well as an audio filter too. in fact, everyone should own one.
That looks awesome. Only £50 as well..
mine's been backordered for months :(
the key thing for me has been working out a small suite of software and hardware that I like using and isn't too much hassle to set up every time I want to sketch something out. For me this has been Logic (although reaper would have been fine too), Reason (rewired), a few free plugins (see below), a hardware interface, guitars and - this has been really important - a second monitor for my laptop.
My favourite set of audio processing plugins, by the way..
Less is more... I think as a starter some form of sequencer and some form of sound editing package is a good way to learn the basics.... these can be found free and at worst you could use your current PC with its headphone / mic socket to learn the basics and then decide which way you want to go. Experiment, and most importantly have fun doing it.
i agree with above keep to the mimimum, it can get very confusing very quickly
I've pretty much decided on a Mac and I find Ableton quite user-friendly so will go with that along with some plug-ins. Not sure how good a Mac I need though? Digital Village suggested a Macbook Pro with 2.8 GHZ, 4GB Ram, 500GB drive. Is a Macbook Pro necessary or would a normal Macbook (maybe with 4gb ram) do the job? And, if a Macbook pro is needed, is a 13" screen enough or is it worth going 15"? Obviously the less I spend the better!
A mic if there isn't one built into your computer
A whole thread about someone thinking of buying a mac to make music and no mention of the fact that if they do it will come with GARAGEBAND! Which has limitations but really is all you need to start making computer music...