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Do those figures sound right ?
Spotify streams pay fuck all. Who put that spreadsheet together?
A friend forwarded an email to me which had those figures in a pretty graphic form, with a link to that spreadsheet of raw figures at the bottom.
Though originally I went to http://bit.ly/digitalroyalty (i.e without the capital D and R) which rather confused me....wow, a "Sparkle of Hope".
its not like artists are aiming to live purely off of spotify royalties. Spotify is all about what the streams can potentially lead to...I.e the person going on to buy a CD, Vinyl, merchandise and of course most importantly tickets to a gig.
Its mainly about promotion, but they're getting paid, instead of paying for it!
spotify does not link to any artist's website nor is it embeddable in a site. It is a self-contained piece of software that uses its entire content to generate revenue and to grow its business profile and market share and yet does not recompensate the creators of that content.
For artists, Spotify sucks Satan's cock
Its not really fair of me to assume that people use spotify in the same way as I do.
Dillinger escape plan had the right idea with option paralysis though...bang the album on there two weeks prior to release and then take it down again a few days before release.
Does that spreadsheet include money from subscriptions or just the advertising payments. Surely spotify are the only one who know how many subscribers there are? Rendering the data inaccurate.
get their stats from, it's all made on best guesses and estimates. There's no firm figures anywhere.
so could pressure Spotify into giving them more money by getting together and solidly refusing to go on there (though maybe in practice this is harder, I dunno), if 4.5 Million people hear a song once on Primetime Radio One for example, the artist would get less money than the the monthly minimum wage. I have no idea what point I am trying to make.
then you would have a fuck load of money. Yes their is a difference in who plays it but ultimately you have pointed out that spotify is absolutely useless in bands getting PRS. So is the rest of the internet unfortunately. . .
which plays the song once, is what I said...
..we had a perfect and just system of bands getting famous and money for their work etc etc etc.
sure spotify might not be amazing but at least it's a way of getting something instead of everyone just torrenting stuff, and it is essentially their(whoever runs it) first attempt at something like this, they could improve the format
I was just surprised by the numbers generally.
I just hope one day I can say I've earnt an hour's minimum wage from people listening to my music :)
mowing down these women and children with our AK47s just doesn't seem right"
"Dude, it's not like hoving their skulls in with a sledgehammer ain't gonna hurt"
"Yeah man, you're right...toss me another clip"
I dislike Win Butler's face. Spotify is great, and people will get their music for free somehow, and bands can make money from T-shirts.
Spotify is the classic example of an aggressively marketed loss-leading business driven by vested interests to monopolise the market place
The business model is TERRIBLE for artists and smells badly of corrupt major-label influence
But what about the little indie labels that rarely break even on their releases as it is? Do you really want the sales of these to be so low that these interesting/non commercial records stop being made? And all your offered is spotify and mp3s?
Do people really listen to a song for months on spotify then go buy it or go to the gig? I know if a song is overplayed on the radio that by the time it's released I'm bored shitless of it and wouldn't bother buying it, got to be the same for spotify - if it's there for me to listen to for free anytime I want I'll get bored bloody quickly, usually before I've got off my arse and gone and bought the thing.
And anyway... If people refuse to buy records and just stream music we'll soon live in a world with no record collections and then what would I look at judgingly when round friend's houses? :)
I feel sorry for people that have a record collection made up of compressed MP3s and virtual playlists. For one thing they'll never hear the song in decent quality, so they're missing out and they'll never have the pleasure of searching for the etching in the middle of a new 7" :)