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Car,button,cloth - The Lemonheads. More?
But how would you feel about replacing it with a rubbish bin? Trust me"
great tunes fuckin ruined by production .... Ive always thought Justice sounded good .... must have shit in me ears
but I couldn't really imagine it any other way now. I think it ends up sounding unique and doesn't sound as dated as their other 80's stuff (still just about prefer 'Master of Puppets' though).
More of a mastering issue, but I think the crappy production award should go to Death Magnetic.
by the shitty drum sound on Gang of Four records.
Released in 2005, re-recordings of some of their old stuff, specifically cos they wanted to bump up the drum sound.
Sounds crap, but it's AMAZING.
American Demo - The Indelicates.
I've never noticed the production on Car,Button,Cloth. Is it really that bad?
but walk it off by Tapes n Tapes has awful production.
Of course if that hadn't been produced that way it probably would've remained a mid-sized, slightly underground record and the whole recent history of music might look different, but the fact remains that it makes a whole bunch of amazing songs sound pretty shit.
by sounding exactly like them (production wise).
you clearly have large lumps of poo for lug holes
but I'll go to my grave maintaining From The Muddy Banks of the Wishkah is the best Nirvana album. Blistering is a word that gets thrown around a lot when talking about loud music, but at certain points on that record they sound like they could strip the paint off the inside of a warehouse. With just three people. It makes me wish that there was a version of Nevermind that was recorded either before or after they went massive so that the songs are as raw as the live versions. Iggy-style master tape remix anyone?
I completely agree about Nevermind though. Those songs sound better in pretty much any setting.
rather than making it 'sound' like what he did. In fact, Raw Power almost qualifies itself for this thread with it's ropey production
from a show at the Amsterdam Paradiso in 1991. it was pro recorded for a radio broadcast so it sounds amazing, and the live versions of the songs really shine. I urge everyone to seek it out.
(I don't like the production on Nevermind either.)
by Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Mushy shit from Mr Albini.
Usually I love Albini's production, but I don't think it worked for Godspeed.
Amazing music, but the production's so flat and lifeless (all blurred into a wall of nothingness) that it totally kills the album. I barely listen to it.
I'm hoping that hearing Rocket Falls or Motherfucker=Redeemer live in December might finally give them the grandeur they ought to have.
Overblown acid-whacked jizzlobbery of the first degree.
See also Sgt Peppers, Dark Side of the Moon, Screamadelica, Loveless and everything Wagner did after he moved into that fucking huge schloss.
Pet Sounds, Sgt. Pepper and Loveless sound great. The production perfectly matches the material. I don't care about the other examples. I wish Loveless was louder and I wish the Pet Sounds master tapes weren't rotted to shit so a first generation master could be released onto CD but I don't see how anyone could back up that claim. The 2009 remaster of Sgt. Pepper sounds nothing short of revelatory.
No way in the world can Pet Sounds be described as "acid whacked". Possibly the next album Smile.
If you used the term "Overblown acid-whacked" to a first time listener of Pet Sounds they would probably be puzzled as to where...
it should be *that were ruined by crappy production. Bliar's Britain...
what do you mean?
Not so keen on the theramin, but the production on that album, for the most part, is great.
You're probably thinking of Good Vibrations which wasn't on Pet Sounds but little known fact, they didn't use an actual Theremin for that song.
Pretty sure that too is not an actual theremin, it's a keyboard that mimics one but that's semantics and I don't know for sure if that's the case like it is with good vibrations.
I realise you can't polish turds, but what the fuck was Mick Jones doing during those sessions?!
please don't get precious about your precious Animal Collective
it's meant to sound that way and I like it
That's ludicrous. There is a fair amount of dynamic range, mixed fairly well. Has nothing to do with if I like Animal Collective or not. I wouldn't say it's the best example of production, few records from the 2000's are but it's not unlistenable. Unlistenable to me at least would be records like the Raw Power remix that clip so much that digital distortion is louder then the instruments at some point and peaks get cut off.
you're the one with the giant stick up your arse about it. It's not glorious or but it's incredibly dense with midrange noise-ish samples, vox, guitars, synths etc. and with that in mind its actually quite impressive.
I mean yeah, the songs themselves are pretty shit, but the production completely removes whatever charm the record could have had.
still great album though
because it's David Newfield and his resume shows that he's really good at making lush indie pop records. it clearly sounds really scrappy and all over the place and loud on purpose, because that's how the band played at the time.
It's hard to listen to. Everything kind of screeches - the guitar goes like this "EE-EE, EE-EE, EE-EE, EE-EE-EE".
that you really like Los Campesinos! (judging by the fact that you post on their message boards) Or is it possible to be that two faced on internet message boards?
and i used to really like them.. and I do think that WABWAD is a mint album. However, they're difficult to like when their lead singer is such a prize tit. I just find it difficult to like bands when there is one overbearing personality which comes across in the music.
I think he just really likes music but each to his own and all
This record always seemed overly sterile and polite compared to the turbulent energy of their demos
Just listening to the album version of Nine now, the way they've so obviously looped the idiosyncratic yelp on 'lost lost lost in the sea of conjunction' totally ruins its spontaneity and energy
I wouldn't say ruined, as Daydream Nation is one of my favourite albums of all time. But the 80s drum sound wounds me. Whereas Sister the drum sound is tip top...
has horrific production... or lack of it.
Some songs sound like they were recorded through a wall in the next room... Nei Young's "Burned" for example.
Sounds marginally better then the dgc reissue from te early 90s and much better then the deluxe edition.
They used an all analog signal path when recordin sister which means nothing but try obviously toook a lot of care recording it whereas daydream nation was a rush job.
it's the only SY album I really properly full on LOVE. I think the production is part of that, it's so searing and raw.
I think mainly because loads of their stuff sounds so dated, production-wise.
So maybe Treasure, although I haven't listened to it extensively or anything. More recently, I thought the Danananaykroyd one was pretty bad.
Shame really, because its such a cracked out fun guitar record. It should have been the kind of lp that is crank-able, but as it is, I have to go at it in small doses and low volumes.
are the things that draws me in.
Treasure is certainly a bit more "modern" sounding and is fantastic.
for some reason they recorded it like it was a Woods album.
Great for Woods but doesn't suit the more anthemic Meneguar sound.
but why the fuck are the strings so loud and the harp so quiet? It isn't a Van Dyke Parkes record.
Also, anything by Jacknife Lee. Fucking terrible producer.
seconded, he's like the posterchild for excessive compression
.....not this recent album but the one before....sounds like a demo...
It sounds fantastic on vinyl turned up effing loud. It sounds really disappointing when listened to in any other guise though including earphones. So disappointing as some of the stuff from that album sounds like planets exploding when they play it live.
sounds like he's banging tupperware containers
What's the beef?
Agreed on Daydream Nation. I have a live mp3 of Trilogy that absolutely destroys the recorded version.
Actually very well produced, but just so damn shiny that it swamps nearly all the personality on the record. If it had just been a bit rawer, it would have been almost as good as 'Jupiter'.
Ace record. HORRIBLE production.
sounds really dated... too much chorus!
But early Modest Mouse and GBV albums would be greatly improved if the bass and drums were cranked up a bit. I get they're meant to be sorta lo-fi but come on - if you're gonna write great basslines I wanna at least hear them!
SMASH's Self Abused. The demos we were all copying onto cassettes for each other in about '92-93 were brilliant. They then made an album a few years later and it was cleaned up beyond recognition. Why produce a 'punkish' album as clean as a pop album? Awful.
....I'm sure the whole massive organ and thunderstorm sounded great at the time they recorded it, but unless you have similar sized speakers it's a bit poo.