I don't get The ArchAndroid and Cosmgramma
I've tried so many times. It's just...not...there. It's not clicking w/ me. And I can't help but think (this thread will surely die) that they're trying too damn hard, albeit with the best intentions and good for them. There's no way I can see one of them being the album of the year, either. Maybe R&B album of the year and blip-hop album of the year but not album album of the year. I don't care too much for R&B and soul (ArchAndroid is the third R&B album I've ever bought behind Sade Lovers Rock and the new Erykah Badu) and I'm not too crazy about nerdy Warp artists. Occasionally listen to Prefuse 73 but that's about it. I'm not close-minded, I swear! Please help.
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You don't like them
and by the sound of it aren't into that sort of music anyway. That's OK, move on.
Dang
Dang
BTW, *Cosmogramma. I can't even spell it right.
Mostly just agreeing with charliepanayi's comment here
but also just saying the opening post is rubbish - both albums will be given high consideration in annual retrospectives, and as albums in their own right too, not ghetto-ised blip-hop categories and the like.
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+1000 this. Don't even want to get started on the ghettoized categories part myself.
This is probably all that anyone needed to say
in reply.
They're both pretty damn special records but it's hardly a tragedy if someone doesn't like em.
people should be banned from mentioning Cosmogramma on here
because I was just nicely settling into Tindersticks' The Hungry Saw and now I wanna put FlyLo on...
Yeah
I agree - I like Fly Lo and most Warp stuff but Cosmogramma simply isn't that great. In fact, it's actually quite annoying.
Tried putting it on at work one day when I was real busy and needed a boost
Didn't work. Just, yeah, annoyed me and put me on edge.
"don't care much for R&B and soul."
That might explain why you're not enjoying the Archandroid. It's stylistically steeped in R&B and soul. I find not liking these genres to be a general red flag, but that's me. The whole "R&B album of the year, blip-hop album of the year" comment also makes me a little uncomfortable. Just generally don't try to pass judgement on the worth of something like this if you don't have the expertise, please.
Your Bret Easton Ellis reference
Makes me uncomfortable
Real mature, guy.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Please help?
Ummm, in what way do you envisage people helping you? Do you want another way of looking at these albums that's going to make you like them? Because I'm not sure that's possible. Or are you just looking for other people to agree with you?
I've keep hearing Flying Lotus described as nerdy, dry, or technically good but lacking in emotion... I don't buy it. If it doesn't resonate with you, well, thats it, it just doesn't resonate with you. I personally love it.
Shot in the dark, I s'pose
I didn't know everybody that likes them likes them immediately and is a subject matter expert on their respective genres. Damn. Done blew up my own spot, I guess. BTW, I don't call FlyLo those things but I will unapologetically keep describing 'im as merely J DIlla-meets-Prefuse 73, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Screw it, no matter what conclusion I come to I'll still listen to "Do the Astral Plane" and that tune about cold chillin' on the tightrope, or whatever, at least once a week and listen to both albums in full at least a few more times before having a more solid opinion. But I stick by my not-best-of-'10 statement. Highlights, next-level shit surely but nope.
I didn't love it immediately
I'm by no means an expert on Warp, or whatever Flying Lotus is filed under, (boomkat have him under Beats/Downtempo). But I do regularly listen to stuff thats fairly similar. I wouldn't make a big deal about not liking, say, Sunn O)))'s Monoliths and Dimensions, which a lot of people said was a classic, because I know the genre is a huge turn-off to me.
dunno what to say about that last bit, by all means stand by that if thats how it appears to you, but a lot of people love those albums, and I'd say they have good reason to do so.
I wouldn't get too hung up on it if I were you.
Lots of people don't like lots of things and don't force those things upon themselves.
I don't like them either. I've only heard one Janelle Monae song, but I found it annoying enough to dismiss her for the rest of time. Cosmogramma seems completely unappealing.
Monae is definitely too jazz-hands.
Cosmogramma is free-jazz-woah
As others have said
Not liking the genres will explain a lot.
That said, I agree with your point about the Archandroid, re trying too hard. It's an easy album to admire, she's clearly talented and it's great to see the scope of ambition, but I find it impossible to love. Something too detached, too controlled, to really make it a truly great or loveable album, for me at least.
Why don't people use the phrase 'blip-hop' anymore?
most people tend to go ummmmm... post-Dilla/beats/w*nky/future hip-hop/fly-esque stuff whereas blip-hop a vaguely acceptable genre term isn't it? ummmm. interesting.
maybe
it's part of the whole genre nerd codification thing with a lot of electronica fans. You know the type that has 17 different genre terms for 17 different drum n bass tracks? If you give em a load of different genres then chances are higher they'll be in to that particular subgenre...
But I reckon glitch-hop suits it better anyways...
Serious question:
do you like jazz?
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