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Don't tell me this doesn't mean anything.
I think and I love that album. Think it means you should make your own mind up and don't worry too much about their opinion.
I'm not a fan of the record. I don't think it's atrocious but it's got nothing on the previous two.
All I'm saying is that a lot of people WILL form an opinion merely on the basis of that review and it could have a fairly negative impact on Maya's career.
As for it having a negative impact on her career, I somehow doubt it.
Still can't wait to listen to it though.
With Midlake's latest album, it got a host of reviews triumphing it and seemed to be gaining a lot of attention, and then Pitchfork slammed it.
On the other hand I think M.I.A's too big an artist with too big a reputation to be affected so significantly by a single review.
The reviews were a lot better in the UK anyway
On first spin, I'd say some of it sounded a bit crap, some of it sounded a bit awesome. Ta
She’s a bellend, always has been. The student politics mixed with the cultural tourism mixed with the truffle fries, she’s not exactly the sort of musician I’d want to be idolising or putting much faith in. And I think the goodwill is beginning to run out for her in most places, judging by some of the other reviews I’ve read. Basically, people are finally clocking that she’s a bit of a bint, her “interesting” background is a bit of a red herring, and she brings nothing to the table except “PLO, no surrendo” quality raps.
Galang was good though
But Arular and Kala were both great so that was overlooked. This one is dividing people more is all. But if I like it I won't care how annoying she can be.
Basically saying that 90% of all discussion around her music is actually not about that at all, but more her background. When if it was, everyone would hear 'Bamboo banga', simply realise it's utter skillz and just shut up and get on with enjoying the tunes.
Who cares about all that stuff if the music is ultimately fucking ace?
has probably had a big knock on effect, probably the more so in the US, and I'm sure on P4K... I think people had had it on their minds of a long time that she was a bit of a douche, but it hadn't been sort of indefatigably nailed down as fact at that point.
I quite like the album - it's totally obnoxious, ridiculously overblown and shamelessly jumping on the bass music bandwagon... I mean, she's headlining the Underage Festival, and I'm sure the nippers will go nuts for that shit and not even be remotely concerned by a 4.4.
That she's a wealthy 35-year-old mother who has constructed some sort of private fantasy in which she's the VOICE OF TRUTH... er, well good for her, like.
maybe I've got better speakers this time around, it sounds much denser and more obnoxious to me. Or maybe I just haven't listened to the first two in too long.
is pure FILTH
I guess it's always been Diplo and his tendency to latch onto whatever gutter house/bass mutation is going round at the time, kinda meant the first album didn't really sound like anything else because there was so much going on during it - bits of kuduro, baile funk, grime, soca and who knows what else...
I imagine Rusko's contribution will still sound like someone abusing a massive cheese grater, but I was quite surprised by that track he's done with Amber Coffmann. Really not anywhere near as awful as his usual wobble/electro style.
given that her life has been directly impacted by the seemingly never-ending violence and tension in Sri Lanka - that she is, you know, a Sri Lankan Tamil - I think she's got more of a right to vent about it than most. Even if she does chat shit sometimes.
The infamous New York Times piece wasn't so much "devastating to her credibility" (as Pitchfork state as fact and you imply), as it was a clear and acknowledged piece of poor journalism, Hirschberg guilty of both withholding information from the reader and misquoting its subject. M.I.A.'s response WAS childish, there's no getting away from it, but I can see the frustration it was born out of.
but I have heard mixed things on this album, some people really like it but a lot of people hate it. I might listen to it soon, but my GOD shes one annoying person.
the Santagold album is far better than anything M.I.A. has done. As a body of work. paper planes is great an all but that Santagold album is the one.
either way shes shit
Are they Gods? When they cast a bad review does a musicians career go on the wane? Really?? Never realised they hold such power.
MIA is overated anyways so it's been a while coming. I borrowed Kala after reading all the rave reviews and just thought why oh why. Couple of good tracks then meh. Quite like her first album though, Sun Showers and all that.
Built to Spill's cover of Paper Planes they do live every now and then is effing brilliant.
It made me :D
That'd be the sample used on Born Free.....which is quite Wooden Shjips-esque but then Wooden Shjips are a very Suicide-esque band and their offshoot band Moon Duo are even more so, but I get the comparison you make.
Their Escape album is great, well worth a listen/buy, as are their 2 EP's and 7" releases (but then I'm a sucker for all things Shjips so would say that).They're touring this month and know they're playing somewhere in Brighton so get y'self along. It's just Ripley on guitar and vocals and his lady on keyboards and a drum machine so very bare bones.
if you can get past hyping up the score. Then again I've never really been a huge fan of MIA and her pseudo-political image really really grates on me.
I wrote pretty glowingly of the album on here, and I stand by it; it might not have the out-of-nowhere thrill of Arular or whatever it was that keeps me playing Kala three years down the line (I don't know yet), but it's standing up to repeated listens very well, and I think a few of the tracks on there rank among her very best ('Tell Me Why', 'Teqkilla', 'Steppin' Up' and 'Space' are all uniformly strong, among others).
It's well-written, but I do think that the writer thinking she's a dick has really coloured his opinion towards the negative. Which is fair enough and all that, but I don't think the album really warrants it.
Also: no faintly embarrassing Timbaland appearance on this one, so that's always good.
Timbaland is responsible for some of the greatest pop music of the last decade
and MIA, uh.. isn't
...suppose it depends how you define 'pop' and all that
that wasn't so much a diss on Timbaland (though he has sucked lately) more how terribly out of place he sounded right there at the end of the album, blasting out vaguely rapey sentiments and tired machismo.
Wasn't it originally from his solo album and just tacked on to the end of Kala?
Also: he raps about going back to her teepee. WRONG KIND OF INDIAN YOU STUPID HEAD
he never can though can he?
That was a pretty great album though, with some killer moments. There were a couple of things on Kala which matched up (Bamboo Banga, Bird Flu, XR2), but for the most part it was pretty average by comparison. Jimmy was a pretty cool pop tune, but am I really the only one who finds Paper Planes insufferably irritating? Can't stand it, the entire delivery of the song completely grates on me.
Haven't heard the new one yet and I'm not in any particular hurry to, but it's interesting to see how strongly she's dividing opinions at this point, in a different way to how she has done in the past. I guess it's the fact that she's now considered a mainstream pop artist, and people will probably look at her in a different way as a result.
Kala really made good on Arular, and also that some of the less blustery tracks (like World Town and The Turn) are its best (kind of like Space and Tell Me Why on MAYA) (the latter, for example, is genuinely gorgeous - really can't see how the Pitchfork reviewer found it "limp").
I ended up in a commuter town indie club and they played it and everyone did fake gun actions along to the gun noises and JEEZ
who hates Paper Planes, trust me
such a fucking lazy, facile bit of songwriting - Paper Thin morelike
then why should we care what else they say? Outrage regarding MJ had nothing to do with the quality of the 'early 90s' records but with the fact that there weren't any court cases re the child abuse until then. People didn't take any of it seriously until the Jordy Chandler case in 1993. Up to that point, it all been hearsay and gossip.
it's a pretty bobbins album with some really cringeworthy lyrics. Parts of it sound like Flight of the Concords when they up the bpm's.
not even a huge MIA fan. but what a poor review.
it could be accurate as it mentions plenty about the music & it's 100% correct about her as a person, it may only just be becoming more noticeable to her 'fans' because her quality has dipped.
No one reads the reviews, you just have to say you hate them without any reasoning so you seem like 'such a free thinking wild man.' Oh boy.
and raises a good few questions
they lowered their standards.
plays the shotgun and cash register in her band. She's alright apparently.
Not sure what model the shotgun is but my friend wears full hunting tweeds. Looks pretty amazing.
but everyone else liked it. It was an ok album. So, relevant.
the whole world is calling it a poor album, it's not just Pitchfork or Perpetua
As far as I can tell it's got a lot of great reviews, a few middling ones and a few stinkers so far, it's just that the negativity seems to be getting really picked up on at the moment.
Ex-art and design graduate hipster pretending to be more guerilla than she is.
The music? All the best stuff is done by the producers and her rapping is laughable in my opinion. She's a total magpie.
I've pretty much kept quiet for her entire loathsome career but I implore her to go and have more babies and leave music to those who'd rather slave in a studio than get their face in the latest lifestyle magazine for trust fund brats to take to the bathroom.
Felt good that.
but I reserve special dislike for her because she is held in such high regard by people and websites who should know better.
Sounds like she's upped her game live, at least.
there's space for MIA in the world.
Music doesn't HAVE to be good or groundbreaking. Just don't listen to it if you don't like it. But if someone's capable of doing something as rad as that letterman thing then I'm 100% behind them.
The blogger seems to suggest it's shit???!
I was honestly surprised with the backlash after all the press that they gave Maya leading up to the record being leaked and released. Someone over on another P4k thread noted that you can often predict what the rating of a record will be by the press they give it... this one kinda disproves that sentiment in a big way.
HEAR THIS NEW SONG!
WATCH THE VIDEO!
HERE'S THE ART AND TRACKLIST! IT HAS A NAME!
OOOOHHHH SHIT SHE'S BASHING SOME BITCH ON TWITTER!
OH HEY SHE'S TWEETING FOR US FOR A DAY!
THIS ALBUM SUCKSS OMGZWTF
The record is a definite sidestep from the sounds of her previous work, but it's still good. XXXO is terribly catchy, and Teqkila is undeniably good. It's patchy, but if she had put in another month of work and thrown on a better producer for a couple songs, it would have been truly marvelous. I just think its been a bad year for her.
But, you know, it's fairly bullshit to connect an artist with their outside image. It's like, I personally think that Bono is the biggest douchebag on the planet, but that doesn't change the fact that Where The Streets Have No Name gets my blood pumping every single time I play Joshua Tree, which is regularly. The Gallagher brothers are still a couple of assholes, but I'm still having Champagne Supernova played at my funeral...you know what I mean? It's unfair to let a musician's personal opinions, actions, grudges, etc. inform your enjoyment of a record/song/band/artist/whatever. Just take a step back, listen to the album without focusing on the fact that someone off-base made it, and THEN judge it. Forget the "truffle fries".
Also, sorry for the rambling, I have had a long week, got on to wait for my sleeping pills to take affect, and they started to mid-post. WOOOH.
'the sound of a devoted audience getting fucked over by a musical sociopath.'
CMG get in on the act: http://www.cokemachineglow.com/record_review/5514/mia-maya-2010
“I think she’s a really controversial artist and she’s one of the most important people doing music right now, because people expect a lot. And I think that the record was like—she didn’t care about it. I was in the studio with her, she didn’t write anything. The one good review is that, at least people—she’s on the defensive for the whole record, and that doesn’t sound very authentic. Me and Switch tried our best to be quality control of the record and she didn’t want that. She kind of went on her own way. I was like, Look, nobody in your crew—we were the only people she could trust, and our asses were on the line too. We got here because of working with people like her. We care about the way things sound, and when the people that she works with don’t, then it’s fucked up. She’s got a talent in every aspect. She’s got ideas bigger than any artist I’ve ever met and she’s someone to fuckin’ make that happen. All she has is a bunch of yes men around her and they kinda suck.”
The more I read this thread the more I'm loving MIA