I'm sure you can suggest worse...
He wears their concert tees in his spare time, hardly goes to gigs that aren't theirs, will play it at work instead of the radio or, for chrissake, something accessible that everyone can either enjoy or tune out. He even puts his iPod into somebody else's dock while at BBQs and, yep, plays Dream Theater. He will also debate their awesome power to the end. I take a bus home from work every day and always have to tell him "I'm fine" when he asks if I'd like a lift (he plays it in the car).
I was trying to play pool, but he started asking me about what other music I liked in a surprisingly aggressive manner. So, I did the usual wheedling so as not to have to mention a bunch of bands he'd never have heard of that play music that doesn't really have any genre you can relate to people, mumbled something about most of them being Canadian or Japanese, so I cracked and tried to describe Godspeed You! Black Emperor to him. My description in his brain sounded EXACTLY like Dream Theater, at which point he went off about Dream Theater for 15 minutes or so, until I quickly drank up and left. Turned out the dude just wanted to talk Dream Theater, and the odd-looking kid with the band t-shirt looked like easy pickings.
In conclusion, Dream Theater fans are awful.
There's a guy who I know through my dad who bored me to death for about 20 minutes about Dream Theater. I made the simple mistake of discussing music with him after he asked what I listened to (I said mostly punk, ska, hardcore and metal which is true). He made a face like I'd just shat in his pint and started banging on about DT, how he could play all their songs on guitar, all the dvds he had of their shows and how I should "definitely come round and watch them." I can see him presenting me with one of their albums and a dvd next time he's round.
If anyone (for whatever reason) was watching them at Download in 2007, I was a camera operator for those big LCD screen things. The singer kept fucking off stage, leaving me with sod all to film, so I had to pan up and film the drummer instead. One of his solos was like 6 minutes straight, and I had nothing else to shoot. He had three bass drums. Bellend.
Thanks for helping quantify why Dream Theater are one of my least-favourite bands ever DESPITE my abiding love of (most) things OTT, progressive and deranged
(DT aren't very progressive, of course - they can't write a fucken song and their musical style is very reactionary - all they do is wank in the purest sense)
but soon realized the error of my ways
that would only rotate when it was his turn to show off. And they would all get a turn at showing off. Even the bassist. And their bassist had too many strings on his bass. Wank is the ideal word for what they do.
then they look at me blankly like i've just offended them by failing to engage with their shitty question
Then i give them the "fuck off" eyes
"Music that could soundtrack moments of high emotion in American sports dramas."
Norweigan pop, Idlewild B sides pre-2005, remixes by Surgeon..."
the DT fans are all like 'Technical skill and amazingness FUCK DA HATERZ'.
when I was frequently looking for rooms in shared houses ten years or so ago.
It was thus: "Stuff like Chuck Berry, Sex Pistols, and DJ Shadow".
It was a stab at covering as many bases as possible in the space of three artists whilst being a totally genuine answer. Decent timespan. Something nice and old for breadth, but not too alienating or try-hard. Something massively identifiable and a slightly cheesy choice but not too meh. Something credible from the then present with the bonus that if they didn't know who shadow was they'd lock onto the DJ bit. As I say: totally contrived.
Must've made some sort of impression, cos a lad in a house that I moved into referred back to it two or three years later (with no other mention in between) that I didn't really listen to that much Chuck Berry.
Also served me well when going for a job at Virgin Megastore a not long after that when the inevitable 'which three albums would you take to a desert island' question popped up.
Agree that "A bit of everything really" actually means 'much much less than I think I do'. And "Whatever's on the radio" basically means 'I hate music and you will hate me'.
There's very little you can say without sounding a bit pompous in that situation. I usually just tend to tell people the last couple of things I listened to on my mp3 player without going into generalisations. If you say dubstep, they think you like wib-wob, if you say techno they don't really know exactly what you're referring to, and if you say pop they tend to think mainstream as opposed to slightly more off the wall stuff. Etc etc.
The article is on the money though because it is a VERY important question (and one I ask a lot) but one that it is impossible to answer without sounding like a moron.
I think it's easier to talk about specifics rather than music in general. Like 'what was the last LP you fell in love with?' 'what were your top 3 songs of last year' etc.
i'd stab them in the neck with a broken bottle
But i stopped once i realised everyone thought that meant i was listening to Bollywood soundtracks.
Now i just avoid the question.
B/c I got tired of people not knowing what it is and having to do the cringeworthy 'eh...y'know, kinda like college rock'.
I've noticed saying something like 'glo-fi', 'balaeric pop', or 'UK funky' will almost always squash it immediately.
And who asks that any more anyways? 'What bands do you like?' is much better. They'll always shoot off three or four and next thing you know you've been well engaged in convo for a little while.
To be fair, in the years since people have began listening to more independant music and the city has an alright music scene of sorts (The Middle East are from here and they are absolutely brilliant!).
until my astonished uncle thought I was saying 'Indian rock'. Admittedly the 'and' was ridiculous anyway, but I was only a youngster.
I still usually say something moronic like 'mainly indie rock but I'm into other stuff too' followed by a few examples, if only to show that by 'indie' I don't mean the Pigeon Detectives.
I imagine you frothing at the mouth and saying 'why don't you just check out all the music that there is on the internet eh? Look on youtube for some music videos. Don't expect me to have all the answers for you!'
as I thought it gave the impression that I was in to experimental/interesting music but I was still a, y'know, FUN GUY as opposed to a joyless nerd (which is more accurate).
These days I tend to say something like "At the moment I'm in to sort of [vague genre] bands like [bandx] and [bandy]" and try to mention Deerhoof.
Both terrible answers which translate as "I'm a fickle dilletante with a horribly short attention span." But it leads nicely into explaining what records I'm digging I'm in at that particular point and/or rabling anecdotes about how my cousin got me into gangster rap at 11 years old and how my mother tried to explain why I shouldn't say 'motherfucker' so much.
by stuttering and forgetting everything I listen to in replace of just looking confusing and confounded at such a vast and horrible question to answer.
If an answer is still required after my own harrowed and befuddled response I have a stock reply of 'The Beach Boys'. In the first place this is usually the only band-name I can remember and in the second it allows another subject to open up (Beach Boys songs), throwing my interrogator of the scent somewhat.
because most of the majority of the music I like the most has some grounding in/influence from punk, so I reckon that covers everyone from Ramones to Black Flag to Dinosaur Jr to Sleater-Kinney to Darkthrone to Sonic Youth to whatever.
at least that's how most of it is tagged...
Can suck it
"Oh! I don't like music, but I have some recordings I made of some of your personal phone calls that I like listening to"
you just say 'recently I've been listening to ...' and list some bands/artists you've been listening to
don't understand what the fuss is about
for worse replies, Mr. I've-got-all-the-answers!
"It's a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible question."
but it really isn't
that gives people just enough of a chance to hang themselves, which makes it a GREAT question in my eyes.
but I get pretty self-conscious in this situation and start babbling nonsense. ' well, uh...um.. well recently I've been listening to a lot of music made entirely on machines, without human hand touching them... y'know,...well yeah a lot of synths but mainly like player pianos and tesla coils and music boxes and homemade stuff... a tesla coil?...well I'm really exactly sure... but it makes a pretty fucking cool sound hahaha... '
essentially we are social retards
if you start reeling out a load of bands that the other person has no idea about, you sound like an utter cock
i like to bypass that and say "stuff you wouldn't have heard of". Then you sound like a cock on purpose
in the age we live in NOBODY can really expect to have heard of everything someone else is listening to ... no matter how famous or obscure the artists are
When a co-worker asks me what I'm listening to. What? It's so goddamn annoying. They, in fact, haven't heard of any of them and the worst bit is the way the ask as if you'll tell them who it is it'll remind them that they have heard of them but in reality they haven't. And if they haven't, they haven't, it's not like they'll go out and pick up an album of theirs or even do a little research on them.
The only thing worse is when people who don't read interupt your reading to ask you what you're reading.
...which is true. This is the most accurate answer I can give to this most annoying of questions...
Just a harmless conversation starter. Or continuer. Or whatever.
the reason its a worse answer than all the ones in the article. Usually i read it to mean front-page-of-nme bands or anything with 'The' in front of the name and haircuts that cost more than 20 quid.
'indie rock'. but i guess a better summary would be that i don't really like music, as a general rule. but some bits of it are pretty good.
"You know, artists like Simply Red, Wet Wet Wet, that kind of jam"
"Late 90s nosebleed techno pop"
"You know, stuff like Aqua"
then it's not worth responding, just say "Killers" or "Kings of Leon" and kill the conversation.
I do feel like destroying people that happily announce "oh I like a bit of everything, me" and proceed to bore you with an extremely limited view of "everything", as if Eminem, Fatboy Slim, Jamie Cullem and Elbow are the four pinnacles on which modern music is based. I want to fuck with them and say "that new DJ/Rupture album's fucking great isn't it" or "doesn't the new Burzum sound like it was recorded on four track?". But mostly I want to punch holes in their flimsy pathetic view of "everything".
I think I have very limited music taste compared to a lot of people here, but wider than your average KoL fan I hope.
the people who do say 'I like a bit of everything' will in fact make no effort to expand on this, leaving the conversation at a complete dead end.
it tends to lean on american indie rock and atmospheric melodic dreamy electronic/folk music. I also mention my love for a good hook.
I only mention bands when asked.
As if it's their god-given right to know what's going on in *all of music*, and if only Top Of The Pops were back on our screens they'd be up to speed. Or something.
I don't think any of the shit I listen to is really obscure at all, but talking to someone who's not obsessed with music for two minutes makes it pretty clear that my definition of obscurity is rather different from that of others.
I'm happy that I've got this far in my life without ever meeting a Dream Theater fan.
That said they are also normally fans of guitarist music i.e bands only people that shred on guitar like.
"elle dammers says:
DREAM THEATER IS SO AMAZING! EXTREMLY TALENTED MUSICIANS!Funny how if its to intelligent people down it or if it goes over your head~ 1+1=2 2+2=4 4+4=8 too much! sorry I'm not saying any thing negative about u ~ why Dream Theater? Some of us have to have a clue~ RITE and well we need music to Express are every thought & feelings to be real ~ not a Puppet controlled buy consumer ~ism~ or Celebrity~ ism which BTW = $$$ Why sell out! I say tune up ! Sound mind ~Heart strings! ITS ALL GOOD!!! "
Apparently Dream Theater is an anti corporate anti capitaalist kinda deal. Clearly Crass had the totally wrong end of the dick and werent wanking furiously enough or going on tour with Iron Maiden
and their amazing Rock Techniques?
are handed out free with rubbish magazines that have titles like 'MODERN DRUMMER' or 'LICKS & RIFFS' and are full of adverts for stupidly gaudy and expensive instruments that are 'signed' by someone from Dream Theater.
DT have identified their demographic and they're milking it for all it's worth - for them to claim to belong to any high-minded artistic remove is risible
Mind you, Modern Drummer is quite a good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COboUZD1b_I
That you cant understand complex experimental music like Dream Theater. Get out of this commentary you're not welcome!
to say something like 'obscure stuff that changes every 5 minutes - I am very fickle', just to pre-ept criticism.
I'm a snob, and I can't spell
I dunno, I always think that if I try to explain what I'm really into, (some pitchfork-y stuff, but more like Ariel Pink than The National, some stuff thats at the end of dubstep indie people find acceptable, eg. mount kimbie, a bit of flying lotus-esque stuff, some ambient weird shit, some twee, some token pop bands) everyone is going to think I'm a dick anyway. See? You probably still want to punch me, so I may as well be a bit self depreciating.
print out that 'Paste Your Taste' thing on last fm and carry it around with me
if it only mentioned the word 'eclectic' - god that word is misused by people attempting to convey their taste
i just say 'most genres, but i really like Bjork'
this is a good answer for many reasons
a) everyone knows who Bjork is so nobody goes 'who??' and leaves me trying to describe a band to someone who really doesn't care that much and was just asking a casual question
b) she's a bit weird, so i think it points to the fact that the rest of the music i listen to is a bit weird (ie, saying 'indie' usually leads to 'oh so you like the cribs/the hoosiers?')
c) i really do listen to a lot of Bjork
who the FUCK are dream theatre
the Mars Volta it's not okay to like?
Anyone who would ask that question is an idiot.
Next they'll be asking you your name and all sorts. People, eh? Fucking cunts.
I'll always ask people about specific artists they like or albums or songs they've been digging recently because I don't expect people to sum up their entire music taste in a few bullshit catchphrases or embarrassing cliches. I ask about music because I want to know and I ask the questions that make it clear that I want to know, asking "what kind of music do you like" makes it obvious that the person doesn't give a shit about the answer and just would rather have talking than silence. I can't respect that at all.
Most people aren't.
Realistically I'm aware most people who don't use indie websites won't know most of the bands I like so I think them asking what type is a fair enough question.
Why not talk about the weather or some boring shit, or maybe ask me about something that you actually care about? But this wouldn't be the first time one of my beliefs totally alienated me from the rest of humanity.
People into obscure indie bands don't necessarily care about the music they like any more than people into better-known bands.
people listen to but hate answering the same question myself. I don't know why.
"here's a link to my last.fm"
to your uncle, or annoying new work colleague
"I can't be fucked to engage you in conversation so I'm going to fob you off to a music website that indie people use to smugly smugify you with my music taste".
but people sometimes ask me what I play on my student radio programme and I sort of mumble 'ummmm...electronicy stuff' then wander off...
Cover songs are prolly my favourite.
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