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Also, 'Fake Tales of San Francisco' up to the last minute or so - what an absolute shower of shit that is.
I've just been going through some of the other stuff off the Arctics' debut on Youtube - 'A Certain Romance', 'From the Ritz to the Rubble', etc - and it's far, far superior to anything they've released since, which is mostly rubbish. So in conclusion, the Arctic Monkeys: a mixed blessing.
don't know the other stuff very well at all myself.
In 2010 the discussion is about why Arctic Monkeys are still great and why anyone ever gave a flying one about The Libertines.
up the bracket was one of the few albums i had as a young teenager as well. i quite like a couple of the songs arctic monkeys have come out with from the first two albums. haven't heard anything else of theirs
he rhymes 'ghost' with 'toast'.
play properly or don't play at all.
New Model Army > The Levellers
Bassline is great.
From The Ritz to the Rubble, A Certain Romance, When The Sun Goes Down, Mardy Bum, and stuff. SERIOUS MUSICAL DEBATE.
or 'Time for Heroes' (as skellywager pointed out)
or best 3 versions of that even, on Buzzcocks last night
I'm comfortable with that.
For the last ten years, you mean?
released their first records. You can't bully me the way you bully TheBeautifulOnes, bamos. I'm on to you.
You sicken me.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I MISS YOU, I MISS YOU SO
accounts for those four years.
That changes everything. We all mostly hate the Arctics b/c of Humbug, right? Favourite Worst Nightmare is a pretty solid sophomore effort. If we're talking Up the Bracket/ S/t vs Whatever.../Favourite...it's more debatable, yeah? First and last two albums and ending on a high note (if you could call it that) or one hell of a debut, then a proper follow-up before recruiting Josh Homme and getting all psych/60's.
As long as you have a good album or enough good songs for the radio stations to keep you in regular rotation, I'm happy. Don't really care how much shit you have on top of that. So I guess I'm saying that The Libertines' best stuff is better than the Arctic Monkeys' best stuff. And they have more of it. Or something. I don't know. When 'Can't Stand Me Now' comes on the radio I'm like "Yay!" though, and when 'Fake Tales of San Francisco' comes on the radio, I'm like "Urgh".
I'm just not a big fan of bands who generally write songs from the third-person, looking down at the world and making wry social commentary. There's necessarily a level of emotional detachment, and it leaves everything feeling a little bit cold and mechanical. Whereas The Libs wrote about *their* toils and *their* worries. It doesn't just affect the lyrics; the pain, the happiness, the whatever - it all comes through in a way only your own pain and happiness can. Obviously this applies to plenty of bands other than the Arctic Monkeys and The Libertines, but for me, that's the fundamental difference between the two.
a very good average album, 6/10 from me. With the libs i'd rather listen to the same single 10 times over than the albums, but that nearly clinches it.
That's another debate though. As indeed is my own opinion of the album.
i try to go for 5/10 is average sort of thing, 7 or over for me is something i would go back to in say 5 years as an example. As you say another debate.
Hook it up with some links. Show me what these bastards can do.
Or at least write USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION ON MYSPACE. Now you kinds forget it exists.
Mental. Anyway, 'I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor' came on the radio today. Might have changed my mind a bit.
Never heard 'em that I know of. Didn't really start loving/buying/collecting anything indie/guitar/rock related until recent years. I never got into the Strokes, the Vines, etc. Still havent heard a Smiths record. I listened to This It a few times last year and really didnt find anything special about it.
IDK man, I'm not going to tell you I know something that I dont, it may have to do with the fact that I live in the US and Libertines had/have little push here.
It seems life will be difficult for you....
The most over-hyped collective of artistically-stunted musicians ever. Pete Doherty played the guitar as if he was still in Year 9. Carl & Pete could barely sing and harmonised liked inebriated Millwall fans on a night out. The rhythm section was pretty much anonymous. Yes they had a couple of decent songs but that's pretty much it. The music press, especially the NME, inexplicably treated them as one of the all time great bands, happily ignoring the fact that most pub bands were better musicians. Talk about championing mediocrity.
Seriously. Go listen to peter gabriel. You don't belong in this post.
can't believe how underrated it is.
Jack drinks and smokes his cares away... amazing end to a track.
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