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And a pretentious arse of a writer to boot.
his panning of The Cure's Three Imaginary Boys when it was released, and his unbridled enthusiasm for Joy Division.
Didn't know he was still writing.
Now I presume he's pretty high up in the general Review section of that paper...
"As the world changes, beyond recognition even as we still recognise a lot of what goes on, the disc jockey is among those adapting the best."
and I'm already embarrassed.
But, while I think what he's talking about is true in lots of mainstream dance music, other than just Deadmau5, I think it's broadly true that the mainstream dance DJ can be a kind of brand, where clubbers are buying into a certain set of expectations as a way of having a good time, and like a Hollywood movie, or a Fairground ride, if those already-established elements don't exist (the build-up, the drop etc.) then people aren't happy, and so at worst dance music becomes an attempt at doing an idea of dance music.
I don't know if that's the point he's getting at though.
But he doesn't half take about seven years to make that point, while slipping in really bad rambling sentences about nothing in particular.
It's not just bad, it's embarrassing.
He also tends to write single sentences that are a paragraph long. Unless you're someone like Gabriel Garcia Marquez it's not a good look.
Mark E Smith isn't a Morley fan, for what that's worth.
is a douchebag
he can be a bit of a pretentious wally...but a benign pretentious wally at that...
and his writing can grate a bit....BUT...i still think popular music criticism is a better place for people like him that at least attempt to take a unique and deeper look...
this can often come off hidiously like the infamous 'HE' debaucle....but then at other times you have..um...y'know that really good bit he did about...er....y'know...i think there was this one time that he....no...i..erm...
ok so, apart from the usual joy dicision stuff, i can't really think of anything good of his that i've ever read.
BUT....annoying, pretentious as he is...i'd still always probably be interested to read what he has to say...
The guy is a fucking gobshite twat full of absolute shit and self importance. Utter, utter wanker.
(my comments in the HE thread)
makes me never ever want to try and express myself above a monosyllabic grunt.....to never try and be creative with writing or try and shine up a bit of insight or truth....but instead just peddle out obvious nothings for the rest of my days.
i think paul morely just ruined words.
also, i get the nagging feeling that i should be reading this on the myspace homepage of some angsty young block fringed sylph who may have spent a wee bit too long staring at floppy eared posters of he......amazing....absolutely amazing
''heeeeeeeeeeee may be the face I can't forget, The trace of pleasure or regret, Maybe my treasure or the price I have to pay, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee may be the song that summer sings .....etc...etc..''
i don't want to contradict 2009 michael_w....
so.....paul morley, what a wanker.
is eye-claw-outingly embarressing. Jesus.
is also eye-claw-outingly embarrassing.
but he's alright, not that I'd ever really go out of my way to read anything he says. he's also one of the better contributors to the godawful newsnight review
I was genuinely surprised when i found out he was a respected and even influential journalist.
I couldn't remember his name once and described him to someone as 'that nob from the eighties' (or words to that effect) and they guessed him straight away.
Deadmau5 is wonderful. Singlehandedly opened my eyes to dancemuzik.
Actually Paul Morley is an absolute fucking genius - no-one can write like him and you really are a bunch of morons if all you can do is slag off someone who tries to push the envelope in our modern world of dumbed-down culture.
pushes "the envelope in our modern world of dumbed-down culture" and that his writing is unmatched.
I've not really read enough of his stuff to form some firm opinion, but what I have read hasn't struck me as particularly ground-breaking or insightful. I'd be more than happy to read anything by him that contradicts my preliminary assessment.
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I guess I'm not going to get a response to my request...
Where he writes a vague history of music using Kylie's 'Can't Get You Out Of My Head' and an experimental piece by Alvin Lucier called 'I Am Sitting In A Room' as touchpoints to go off on a vast number of tangents. It's definitely worth reading, possibly because his more pretentious extremes are put in context by nestling up against genuinely good and mega-enthusiastic stuff. And if you get bored then there's usually some sort of satisfying, easily digestible list around the corner.
if a little impressionistic for my taste. I'll look into it. Thanks.
not least effectively provide the soul of ZTT records, back when they were interesting provocateurs back in the 80s. I think with the best will in the world, the OMM did become this sort of personality cult of Morley that wasn't especially helpful to anybody (he never edited, I don't think, that was Casper Llewelyen-Smith, but I guess he was lead writer or somesuch).
He can be entertaining still when he's on form, but I often get the feeling that I'm reading the self-indulgence of the very bored when I read his stuff.
have to even know that jo twatting whiley exists, let alone have to hear hear voice or see her face ever again.
Yes on both counts.
I'm watching his Pop/Fashion thing now and it's decent enough.
A lot of the best music writing is wafty and pretentious and full of affectation. I enjoy the floweriness, when done well. It wouldn't do to take it too seriously, otherwise we'd end up "dancing about architecture".
As I'm well aware that he's written some great stuff - and I've read some great things by him. However, I do feel that there are huge swathes of his writing for the Guardian and Observer that skirt around the point without ever successfully managing to make it properly, and using flowery language and space to disguise the fact that he's not really saying much. That Deadmau5 article in particular frustrated me, but there are a lot like it.
But yeah, fool's not really the word, I have a lot of time for him when he does things well, but I struggle to see the point when he doesn't. And I do feel that self-indulgence can be alienating in certain senses, or can touch on unnecessarily hyperbolic, which is frustrating when there's an awful lot of music out there that's far more deserving of hyperbole [personal opinion alert]
in the joy division heart and soul boxset... yawn
He reminds me of the days when music journalists weren't afraid of being labelled pretentious. He IS pretentious, and self-indulgent, and showy, and irritating, and that is why I like him. I can't think of one contemporary music writer whom I'll even remember in 30 years' time, let alone recall with fondness.
where someone asks him a question which he pretends to be answering but actually he's ignored it completely and instead decided to ramble on in an embarrassing monologue about how Katy Perry is an analogy of our times in a post big-brother web 2.5 universe blahblahblahblahblarrggghhh.
Worst of all is that he tries to make it seem like it's off the cuff, when in fact it's total meaningless bullshit that he's spent time preparing hours before he's even been asked the question.
but I dunno I can't really bring myself to hate him really, even if it is ridiculous seems a bit harmless really.