q without u - "paper cuts" single/video
hello
we're releasing our new single - "paper cuts" on 6th june, it'll be on itunes and available in handmade copies at gigs
we've recorded a video for the single too which you can see here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwOqPCnubw0
it was filmed by the lovely chaps at squarelips who also did the rather excellent "a rumour in africa" video for errors amongst other marvellous things
we're also playing the captains rest in glasgow on 10th june and should have some other shows further north & south in the near future and an album "do no harm" later in the year.
let us know what you think
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DIDN'T THEY SPLIT U...
..abandonreply
i might just start
including links to q and not u video's in our spam stuff aswell just to really fuck people off ;)
I'm just gonna include Michael Jackson's video for "Black and White" in mine
Culkin and all.
Will try to check dis owt at lunchtime
nah man if you're gonna go with Jacko
it's gotta be "Earth Song" just for the sheer pomp and ceremony of it all surely?
magic, let me know what you think :)
change your name please
no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2HfVbBL5ic
:)
Seriously. Seriously.
I mean, how many times do you want to be told this?
What do you percieve as being the advantage? Do you think that people will mistakenly turn up to gigs thinking you're the other band somehow reformed? What possible benefit do you get from this ridiculous doppleganger name?
in answer to your questions
1.they're different names
2.the advantage being anyone who can read can see they're different names
3.i hope not as they'd be disappointed
4. see answer to question 2
any more questions? :)
theyre two very similar names that share an identical concept
as most logical people would think there is no way a band would have the audacity to claim such a similar name it is quite easy to conclude they are one and the same but with a typo. the name causes confusion and dissapointment and then anger
...which leads to the dark side
anger?
really?!
as we've said about 100 times (99 of which have been on here) we'd never heard of them when we started the band, they contacted us, threatened to sue us and then promptly split up. and no we wont be changing the band name but cheers for the suggestion
yeah but having not heard them doesnt account for not changing it once you had
dont blame them for wanting to take action, once a band has become pretty established its understandable they wouldnt want a band using a near identical name, if they hadnt split up im sure it could have lead to a lot of confusion and hassle on their part.
we didn't blame them for taking action
just thought it was pretty funny that they didn't just ask us, instead they sent us a threatening email via their lawyers. DIY4life!
just out of interest do you think battles should change their name?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_(band)
who ever came 2nd probably should have checked yeah
but dont think it is as bad as its one word and its plural, think most people could understand it being used independently by 2 bands but when it is a multiple word band name sharing a couple of words and exactly the same idea I think its different.
i wonder if it caused/causes
the same level of anger and disappointment though? ;)
You really are struggling here aren't you.
Battles are called Battles and everybody knows they are called Battles. Their name is a couple of letters away from a famous scouse band, but the name means and evokes totally different things. Plus, it is a one word name, and as such the word stands alone, meaning different things to different people.
The band name 'Q and not U' is a phrase. The phrase alludes to a convention of English spelling and there isn't much more to interpret from it. I'm guessing that your name isn't alluding to being 'in a queue without you' cos that would just be more shit. Your band name seems to mean exactly the same thing as their band name (unlike The Beatles and Battles).
If you want to give your shitty band a shitty name, be my guest, but don't expect people to be happy when they see threads with titles that suggest one of their favourite bands of the last decade have produced new material.
Fair enough you didn't know of them when you named the band, but if you want your band be judged on its own merit, give it a new name!
If you are just trying to piss people off to get a response, that's cool, here are some ideas for new band names:
... and you will know us by a/that trail of dead
Have a safe journey! Black Emperor
1560 hours of static
Echo and the Rabbitlads
The Beatles does sound exactly like The Battles...never noticed that.
Think it was more to do with Battle and Battles though.
"Your band name seems to mean exactly the same thing
as their band name
(unlike The Beatles and Battles)."
:D
I like how
you calculated that 65 days would be 1560 hours. :D
To the band, what's the point in having a similar name to a well-known band? Do you want people always mistaking you for them or you just hope your fans won't know them? Like someone already pointed out, it just doesn't get along with common sense.
one final question:
why not change it?
I mean, it's clearly aggravating a lot of people you are trying to woo on here. It's aggravating a well respected band of the type you aspire to emulate. It doesn't seem to gain you that much. Why not just change it? Is it just plain ol' stubborness? Can't think of a better one?
I don't get why anyone cares
It's just one of those things that just so damn stupid
It's a crime against common sense as much as anything.
meh...
I mean, they probably should have googled the name before deciding on it, but whatever. I know neither of the bands in question, but even I know that the Q Without U is that band that post on dis sometimes that arent that other, more famous band... Confusion can always happen with band names anyway... i once got talking to a guy who was in a Neil Young tribute band, he told me some story about a couple that came to one of their shows and afterwards came up to him and said 'very good, I enjoyed that... but why didn't you play Sweet Caroline?'
that's a bit of a pointless story really. sorry.
JUST CHANGE YOUR NAME FFS
i completely thought
that was going to be a q and not u video. and i love them so much.
so i was pretty fucking disappointed. FUCK.
Did you not spot the crucial word's difference?
i thought it was an english as a second language user
who liked q and not u or some shit
funny stuff guy
no i didnt
not on the first two glances.
What, uh, might cause confusion is you listing your label as STA?
Could you take that off? Ta :)
Shiftiest Jag of all time.
its also a bit too close to mewithoutyou for my liking
you know there's a band called Q and not U who are loads better than you, right?
it's actually
quite close to Queen & Paul Rodgers too, shit this might require a rethink.....
:D
DEY TURK DER NAAAYYYMMEEEE OV ANNNUFFFER BAAAAAND
TUUUUUURKA NUUUUUUUUURRRRRRMMM!
QUQUQUQUQUUUU
DiS, get over yourselves, seriously, you bunch of miffling twerps
Nice video.
wasn't it you that came up with all the alternatives they could have called themselves?
Fauxgazi
Shelike
etc...
aye i'm pretty sure it was
but at least they were amusing, unlike the foaming at the mouth ham-fisted "FUCKING CHANGE IT YOU FUCKS THIS IS SRS BSNSS" replies from some other folks!
Fine then
Isn't this thread evidence enough that a name change is in order? Nobody is discussing your music.
in all honesty
no, and i'd suspect for as long as we're together we never will
the people who are confused by the name, and probably fans of q and not u are unlikely to be into what we're doing anyway as it'll be a bit too "straightforward" or whatever. maybe we're wrong on that front and are alienating potential interest,who knows?
but if they choose to get themselves all hot under the collar about it in the process why would we care?
Not that you sound particularly similar
but I don't think that you're as far apart as you seem to think. Your stubbornness will hold you back.
actually i was wrong
it wasn't phil so apologies! :)
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/announcements/3420090
nice use of miffling
glad you liked it phil :)
How very sad.
Just fuckin change it you mentalists.
this whole thread is total cringe.
You can keep arguing the fine print all you like...
But this is what I just did:
1. Glanced at the title of this thread while at work and thought an awesome band had got back together.
2. Waited for my producer to leave the room so i could watch the vid, all the while feeling pretty excited.
3. Watched the first part of the video and was like WTF. Switched it off. Felt misled.
4. Made a mental note to stay away from your music.
That actually just happened. And not just for me I imagine. Well done. Your stubbornness and lack of foresight is really paying dividends isn't it? And for the record - if you'd never heard of Q and not U you had no business starting a band. Good day.
sorry if we've misled you
obviously it's interesting,and depressing in equal meausre, that you'd you'd be so aghast at our deception that we'd go straight on the hate list
I think the phrase is actually Q without U.
But unfortunately you are going to alienate a lot of people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_words_with_uncommon_properties#Q_without_U
I'd change it to Homophones.
Songs pretty good btw.
Fuck me, this thread is full of some pathetic moaning.
Yeah, the names are similar.
But so are Wolf Parade and Wolfmother. In fact the number of fucking bands out there with 'Black' in their title, 'Wolf', 'Tiger', 'Bear' or indeed any other animal is quite amazing, yet no one spends ages telling Black Elk they need to change their name because Black Flag, Big Black and Black Sabbath were already out there...
my particular favourite is
"if you've never heard of my favourite band what business do YOU have starting a band!" :D
Their profile lists them as 25 so I'm prepared to assume that part was some tongue-in-cheek hyperbole.
Otherwise pure 'oh wow'.
i wish
there was a chin-stroker emoticon
It was indeed, Theo.
All joking aside - if you stick with that name it'll only hold you back.
^this so much.
those names share one word but are otherwise completely different
these bands are the same phrase worded slightly differently. it is confusing, im well aware of the two bands and even i still managed to think this was a thread about q and not u, i was even going to jokingly post 'ah man I thought this would be a thread about q without u' then I realised it actually was
really weak comparisons.
The problem in this instance is not only that the band names look so similar, but also that they share the exact same concept. Also, the single letters 'Q' and 'U' are generally much less common in band names than words such as 'wolf' or 'black'. I've never had a problem with misreading any of the band names you have listed, but I repeatedly have such an issue with threads concerning 'Q Without U'. My reason for posting here was mainly to advise the band anyway. Sure, I find it mildly annoying and disappointing, but I'll live. The DiS contrarians have joined the thread now anyway, so feel free to disagree guys.
The point is this has been going on for the best part of two years.
Q and Not U split up five years ago and have shown no signs (to my knowledge) or reuniting.
Every time we get a Q Without U thread we get this rubbish. Now I'll admit when I first saw them I had to check again, but equally I saw 'Wolf People' listed as supporting someone recently and thought it was 'Wolf Parade' for a second.
It's now about 'contrarians' it's simply disbelief that people can spend so much time having a go at a band for having a similar name to another band OVER AN OVER AGAIN.
I don't buy your 'share the exact same concept' point. Similar band names are just similar. I find it hilarious there's a discussion up there where people try to defend Battles vs. Battle (and The Beatles - comedy!) as totally different too, as if this particular instance sits in its own little world of special.
I'm not sure why you don't buy the 'concept' argument
It's certainly a factor, for me at least. I'm not saying that the issue in this instance exists completely separately from the seemingly similar examples that you previously mentioned, but surely the repeated fuss that is kicked in every one of these threads tells you something about the perceived magnitude of this band-name-similarity-drama in relation to the others? tbh the strength of my feelings on this topic have almost completely waned now. I'll agree to disagree and that.
hold your horses Theo
no need to bring the mightly Elk into this.
It will make me cry.
I PREFER Q WITHOUT U TO Q AND NOT U
(based entirely on this thread)
que?
*qe
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS THREAD GOT PAST QALITY CONTROL
string pasting
underated^
haven't you bothered changing your stupid name yet? how about Chinstroker?
But that sounds like 'Dickstroker'.
I SAW THIS THREAD YESTERDAY.
YET U R STILL CALLLED Q WITHOUT U 24 HOURS LATER.
ANGRY FACE!
Jesus FUCKING Christ.
thats the strongest contender yet
for a new band name
Which band is which then?
This thread has improved markedly in the last hour
Well done Theo
Nearly a day later
and "the name causes confusion and dissapointment and then anger" still has me pissing myself. This thread is DiS cunt soup.
"the name causes confusion and dissapointment and then anger"
'DiS cunt soup'
will have laughing for weeks...
i stand by it
confusion because q and not u have split up, dissapointed that they havent reformed, anger that q without u stilll knowingly do this
Is this a bad time to tell you about my band The Smashing Dumplings?
It's only a small setup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcsBFHdXmy8
also I am now asian.
I rather enjoyed that.
I've never heard of either band
But would anyone like to see the new video for my band, "The U-less Q's"?
Man, that's way too close to my band
Queue hand nut you
I've gone for Only Q (can make, this world seem right...).
Only Q also doubles up as the name of my pretty niche James Bond character lookalike agency. We're looking to expand soon.
I would also like to submit Q Gardens
can we work that in as a gag?
SKA-Q and SKAnot SKA-U?
Oh god man I just thought of
the Skashing pumpkins.
Lady SkaSka
SKAdiohead
play their hits, including:
SKArma Police
SKAke SKAstic Trees
JuSKAt
SKAreet SKArit
SKAranoid SKAndroid
No SKAprises
SKAranoid SKAndroid
is the best concept I've ever alighted upon.
It's a stone cold winner
"Kicking screaming gucci little pigOI!"
i think i've found a third band member, shucks^
QDOS IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
QDOS.
Doesn't work.
for what its worth 'fitzcarraldo'
you stick to your guns, however i would like to point out that both are fucking terribles names for a band and i would probably change it for that reason....not because these confused, disappointed and angry people tell you to.
Apparently Fitzcarraldo is not even his real name.
Pinched it from someone else's film. He's shameless.
The Social's involved now
If Jack calls you a moody Q and not U, you're done for.
it was only a matter of time really
and has improved the thread no end! :)
FUCK BUNNIES SOUNDS TOO MUCH LIKE FUCK BUTTONS
pls change yr name.
Now giggling at the thought of Fuck Zips existing.
Fuck Buckles
Fuck Braces
FUCK BUCKLES, FUCK BRACES, FUCK EVERYTHING THAT YOU STAND FOR.
DON'T BELONG, DON'T EXIST, DON'T GIVE A SHIT, DON'T EVER JUDGE MEEEEEEEEEEEE.
^emo
you won't be giggling when you get your pubes caught
bamos trims.
would never happen.
^knows
CHANGE YOUR NAME YOU COCKSMOKERS
FOR YOU HAVE ANGERED *AND* DISAPPOINTED ME!
Someone called _morrissey would say that
When I first saw your name I clicked on your threads expecting subtle racism.
I AM ANGRY AND DISAPPOINTED.
Both are fucking terrible names anyway and make me think of annoying whiny American college kids self-harming*
Ta.
* This is based on nothing rational whatsoever
(I really ought to read threads - and in particular posts 3 above mine - before posting in them)
I would like to take this moment to thank each and every DiSser
who contributed to this thread.
Without EACH and EVERY ONE of you, it would not have been the glorious artefact that it is.
Thank you.
*Thank Q but not U
^glyphist
Oh my.
Haven't seen this much confusion since I last listened to the Kills
"Brandon Flowers is sounding butch..."
:)
i remember this thread from the first time you guys jagged.
however, this sequel is like The Empire Strikes Back - it's so much better.
It's just made me listen to the song.
I quite like it.
at last our stubborness and lack of foresight comes good!
;)
NIRVANA?
shut up everyone
I'm enjoying the stubbornness of keeping a blatantly stupid band name even when given an easy out to change it just cause you can
Animal Cooperative
Arcade Pyre
Captain Meatheart
Beach Hut
Block Party
Neutral Milk Hostel
Broken Social Seen
Etc
Another point (if not obvious, or mentioned earlier)
Is that a lot of people won't have ever heard of Q and not U. A lot of people will have heard them, and will be entirely indifferent to the similarity in name alone.
Fair enough, I say. And frankly, if you did name the band Q without U explicitly to piss off uptight indie-fan types, then even better. It's a quality way to push their silly buttons.
I'm now more interested in this band, without having ever heard them before, as a direct result of this name palava. Good work.
the name causes confusion and dissapointment and then anger
Is it performance art?
Jokes on us? Or something?
ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTYFUCKINGFIVE?
everyone loves teacups.
everyone loves storms.
fucksake
i don't remember a thread that wasn't about foals or luke leighfield attracting these kinds of numbers on the music board for quite some time!
i dont like it when people throw words like miffling and pathetic around
seems like an easy way to undermine opinions that differ from yours without having to rely on the strength of your side of the argument. also seems weird that people are critical of opinions such as mine are being just as stubborn, practice what you preach and stop miffling at people who dont agree with you
'Pffft.....
I know a genuine Panaphonic when I see it. And look, there's Magnetbox and Sorny!'
Are these guys DIY?
If so they could always change to B&Q and Not U.
I can only apologise.
this really
shouldn't be overlooked :D
To be fair...
The Chemical Brothers originally chose to pay homage to their heroes The Dust Brothers by calling themselves errr...The Dust Brothers.
Predictably enough, The Dust Brothers objected to this.
Everyone in this thread is an idiot.
Grow up. Get sex or somehing.
I'm
SOMETHING!
SOMETHING!
SOMETHING!
SOMETHING!
a har har har
was searching for Q Without U as their single (mentioned somewhere above) just came out. Kudos and LOL smileyfaces to all the DiSters who've contributed to this, either via their amusing responses later in the thread, or those who kicked it off with their complete fuckwittery in taking offence at something so trivial.
i was confused, then disappointed, then angry.
your music isn't very good and the video is a bit poor too.
ah man I thought this would be a thread about q without you
I can't wait
until someone comes on to jag female synthpopper and recent Marina & the Diamonds support Spark and everyone asks where the bloke with the tache has gone.
I'm actually setting up a Q Without U tribute act.
Haven't decided on a name yet though.
Q with no U
That would work
My first choice was 'Bastard Scrabble Conundrum'. Bit wordy.
this:
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4419989#r7158195
Fucking hell
FUCKING HELL, GUYS. Some of you are twats. Mainly those of you calling others twats. If you just want to piss about with a few mates, then who gives a fuck what your name is? If you want to actually have some level of success though, you'd have to be literally retarded not to realise sticking with a name so similar to that of an already popular band is like the Robert Green of marketing decisions. And of course marketing plays a comparable role to simply producing the best music you possibly can. It's totally naive to think you can have one without the other. I don't care either way though, obviously. I have no emotional investment in the band. I'm just a good Samaritan, spreading my wisdom.
In what way are Q And Not U popular?
They're popular within Q Without U's target demographic, I would imagine
or at the very least, well-known.
once the confusion and anger and disappointment has worn off
you can buy the single from here -
http://qwithoutu.bandcamp.com/album/paper-cuts
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Great thread
A rare pleasure to find a thread full of glorious fuckwittery not involving any banned users.
agreed
also seal's "this" of my last post amused me :D
did anyone start Fuck Zippers?