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When all it has done is introduce clientalism into popular culture?
It was what Tim called him to try and demean him on air during episodes of Tool Time in front of his adoring legion of female fans. It didn't work. Client Al did them all, one by one, in front of Tim. Then he did Tim's wife as well.
Client Al ism: to shag all of your fans as a retort to petty jealousy.
this will not be tolerated in the future.
but yeh...in the future dayshift will mean dayshift
"Clientelism (also seen as clientalism or clientilism) refers to a form of social organization common in many developing regions characterized by "patron-client" relationships. In such places, relatively powerful and rich "patrons" promise to provide relatively powerless and poor "clients" with jobs, protection, infrastructure, and other benefits in exchange for votes and other forms of loyalty including labor. While this definition suggests a kind of "socioeconomic mutualism," these relationships are typically exploitative, often resulting in the perpetual indebtedness of the clients in what is described as a "debt-peonage" relationship. In some instances, patrons employ coercion, intimidation, sabotage, and even violence to maintain control, and some fail to deliver on their promises. Moreover, patrons are oftentimes unaccountable for their actions. Thus, clientelistic relationships are often corrupt and unfair, thereby obstructing the processes of implementing true sustainability."
As far as I can tell, it means you have carte blanche to smash Times New Viking's faces in without comeback.
it legitimises loads of horrible talentless shit pretending that being outside of the mainstream makes it good and cool. Sometimes there's a good reason why no one wants to put on your band/put out your cd.
(there is a small percentage of great stuff too obviously)
the reason i dislike a lot of lofi/diy music is because it isn't made because of an economic lack of resources. it hasn't happened because of cultural, technological or self-imposed limitations or othersuch contextual creative boundaries but by aesthetic choice, which just seems really shallow. i don't understand people re-creating other people's former glories. i don't see the point of bands like vampire weekend spending shitloads of money to make their music sound like it was made on a budget. i don't get the whole rich kids slumming it mentality and if anything, a lot of lofi/diy music just seems really fake. not everything is style over substance but so much modern music is, especially things which get heralded as being better than the rest and it just seems dishonest when people are capable of creating innovative music, that it just seems such a waste of their potential talent and imagination.
i guess what you mean is so much time, energy and talent is currently squandered impressing or at least making an impression within a niche. lotsa people capable of so much more being a big fish in a smalltown. it's a little bit sad, feels like under-achievement and is fairly fairly short-sighted but no-one seems want to step away from the hive and create something new, it's all about acceptance and being middle of the superhighway. sometimes i think indie-rock is just like war re-enactment.
-"it hasn't happened because of cultural, technological or self-imposed limitations or othersuch contextual creative boundaries but by aesthetic choice" - an aesthetic choice is a self-imposed limitation
-"...which just seems really shallow" - why? why is it shallow to make an aesthetic choice?
-"i don't see the point of bands like vampire weekend spending shitloads of money to make their music sound like it was made on a budget" - where on earth did you get the idea vampire weekend are a lo-fi band? Jesus, if yr gonna level bullshit criticism at them at least go with the tried and tested "they are western poshos shamelessly expoloiting other musical cultures"
- "sometimes i think indie-rock is just like war re-enactment" lolwut???????
In conclusion, are you high?
it gets complicated and motives/intent get confused. So in most cases I try not to be critical and dig the stuff I like and ignore the rest. But in some cases the fake ones stand out like a sore thumb; look at Crystal Castles for example: a a couple of has been nu-metallers that get a pretty girl to front their band, steal other people's music and release it as their own while claiming they invented chiptune.
But my question is not really about the quality of lo fi music. It's more a about my concern that DIY has always been shoved in our face as the only legitimate way to conduct yourself in music.
The argument is that it sticks two fingers to the music industry and is more inclusive and representative.
But from my experience 'DIY scenes' are nothing more than social networks which include the social hierarchies you get with any community. In actual fact you have to work harder, as you say, to impress those in your locale and in fact it isn't your music that matters..but literally 'who you know'; exactly what self proclaimed DIYers accuse the music industry of doing.
In fact in the old days so many obscure bedroom artists were 'discovered' from demos sent to record companies, or championed by DJs etc. Now it's a simple fact of having connections with promoters who more often than not only like you because you manage to bring in lots of your friends to your gigs so that they can make money.
Again there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS as there is a economic reason why this the case. Wjhat gets me is that everyone will argue that it isn't.
Having said that music blogs are really useful in disovering new talent and net based based on internet forums are a kind of flipside to the reasl world DIY culture. Anonymous forums such as dubstep forum, Ihatebreakcore etc actually represent what 'orthodox' DIYers pretend to represent: Most users are anonymous and tracks submited to forums are judged on their merits. Artists like Scream and Distance owe a lot of their success from board hyping.
I got thinking about this after reading that blog post by Mike of Fucked Up criticising SXSW trying to shut down Tod P's shows. I didn't that at all....why have a go at an event which is unashamedly a musical meatshop when Tod P has been working for 15 and wishes he could be doing the same thing.
So my main point is that there is nothing wrong with the DIY ethic at all...and it works on internet based genres. But people that 'own' the term are blind to their exclusivity and do nothing for independent musicians AS MUSICIANS