Only a few days ago they were reassuring people it wouldn't be.
I hope Adam & Joe/Collins & Herring egt to do stuff elsewhere or some kind of podcast. I never thought 6music where very good at the music thing but I liked the comedy so its a shame.
'Collings & Herrin' podcasts already so...
but yeah this news sucketh.
not enough variety to the primetime stuff, with a lot of dull as dishwater penisless indie. And half the problem is that most people don't actually listen to DAB radio, or internet radio. They flick through analogue when they're driving around
i don't get digital reception but do get analog
so i've switched back to radio 4
Agreed though, a lot of the shows are very similar, but half of that problem is their instance that only ex-musicians can be DJs on the station.
I'm a big fan of Marc Riley's show but when Tom Ravenscroft covered for him a while back, he played a much wider variety of music.
Also, this is only a recommendation to the BBC, not actually going to happen. YET.
but they had a few good personality DJs, this is kind of a shame.
That said, it couldn't have been that good as I listened to about an average of an hour of it per month.
what are you on about, 6music is a good station, where else are you gonna hear decent music on the radio now? just because the majority of people like shite doesnt men the minority need to suffer
Daytime wasn't great - but a lot better than the BBC's other music stations - but it showed a commitment to providing unique programming with stuff like Stuart Maconie's Freak Zone.
I'm sure some of the presenters will transfer over to Radio 1 (which is actually pretty decent between midnight an 6am), but the general signilling from the BBC that music radio should be the domain of commerical stations is troubling for those of us who want something even a little different from music radio.
"but the general signilling from the BBC that music radio should be the domain of commerical stations is troubling for those of us who want something even a little different from music radio"
incipit Tory Britain, innit.
Even during the daytime, it's relatively good for daytime radio. What else is there to listen to at that time that doesn't properly make you want to hang yourself?
was supposed to be an up pointing arrow rather than a question mark, clearly.
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Umm, where on Radio 1 do you think they're going to go? I think you'll find the schedule there is pretty full.
Everything else - shit.
But actually, the Freak Zone was fantastic when I got to listen, and so was Stephen Merchant when he used to do Sundays. I hear Jarvis Cocker is great, but if I'm listening to internet radio, and I want something supposedly alternative, I tend to just go the whole hog and listen to WMFU, Reasonance, or some of the pirates (Rinse, Sub.fm etc) so 6music doesn't get a look in.
Deja Vu and Live FM recently too, both kick ass pirates by my voyages so far. Rinse and Sub FM are my defult usualy if I'm wanting some sounds. I check some WMFU and Reasonance from time to time too. I forgot about Merchant, he was a laugh sometimes. He needed more Pilkington though...
I'm a bit fan of a lot of the stuff they do on Resonance. I've never had a digital radio, so I can only listen to 6Music on my computer, and if I'm there it'll just be something like Rinse or Resonance instead.
of which the findings have already been published.. i.e. complete bollocks?
The report a couple of weeks ago was a specific Trust report/review into Radio 2 and 6music and how they should be managed.
This is a (leaked, not official statement) more general strategic review into BBC services and is trying to pre-empt likely Tory cuts/interference by recommending a future direction. Its not set in stone by any means, but it gives an idea of how management is thinking/likely to proceed.
It doesn't seem very joined up though - on one hand cutting services that it claims can be provided by the commercial sector then on the other hand cutting 6music and Asian Network which have no major commerical equivalent.
good times, (they were very very low key then)
it had so few listeners my early-adopter friend with her digital radio used to win something from a competition on it at least once a week.
The only decent music radio station in Britain, and they axe it? Fucking disgrace.
I am :o(
I loved Marc Riley's show too. And Adam and Joe.
ready radio like the logitech squeezebox things, but there are cheaper alternatives. so i can listen to wfmu whenever i like, or tune into a country radio station in chicago, or a soul station in boston, etc etc. or for you indie kids you can get the vast majority of u.s. college radio too.
awful proposals - particularly cutting 6music
What will happen to Adam and Joe? :(
on Sunday nights to prepare us for Monday mornings? His show has been a weekend staple for us for the past 1,5 year... Such a shame! I'm sad. :-(
BBC referring to itself in the third person is just plain wrong.
just said that nobody really knows yet and he hopes it's just a newspaper grabbing mere speculation and running with it. They will be more known on March 9th apparently.
I'd be more gutted about losing the American shows.
Fucking Tories and media, trying to dismantle one of the few remaining things I like about this country.
Seriously people, haven't the general population seen the alternatives? A life of Channel 4 picking up flagship shows only for Sky to nab them all when they get popular? ITN News? Five Live with Ian fucking Wright? 73 digital channels of reality TV shows about my neighbours' poxy pets?
The future = shit.
We see it as a bit of a slippery slope - if the commercial sector can effectively force the BBC to close these two stations, plus the money spent on sport and imports, they can start chipping away at everything else. Scaled back specialist shows on Radio 1, Radio 2, Radio 3. No more BBC4. No more interesting new drama. Even smaller budgets for kids' TV and arts programmes. Just the stuff that Sky and co don't want to invest in - Attenborough, costume drama etc. All good in their own right, but we love BBC radio and BBC drama and so on.
But if it does go then hopefully it'll force them to put more niche programming on their other stations like in the 'golden era' (the 90s, obvs).
so don't get your knickers in a twist.
BBC have been telling "buy a DAB radio" for the past 10 years almost, and then a few months after I do they decide to get rid of the only digital only station I listen to.
If they really want to save some money they should be swinging that axe in the direction of BBC3.
BBC3 does something that the commercial sector never will - plays full classical (in the generic sense) pieces and concerts as opposed to odd movements and things here and there. It's a very, very different beast to Classic FM and the commercial sector won't ever go there simply because there's no room for advertising in it.
given that everything in this thread's been about Radio, it's a pretty easy mistake to make.
Yes, BBC3 (as opposed to Radio Three) is horseshit.
Home of 2 Pints Of Lager And A Packet Of Crisps, and about 267 different Single Mum Diet Farm type programmes.
But shows like Late Junction, Between The Ears, World Routes and Hear and Now, yes.
which was the only decent, unmissable post-Peel radio show for me.
mixing it was amazing. found out loads of music through that
Mixing It is very much missed.
But the BBC have totally mis-managed the licence fee payers money with Radio 6. They spent 7 million pounds on a station that has attracted around 600000 listeners. that station could be run from some ones bedroom. the BBC fucked this up.
Look at the dis-graceful money they spent on covering 3 days of Glastonbury last year, that was 1.7 million pounds for 3 days.
on what is probably the most important/biggest/historical festivals in Europe/world, vs Jonathan Ross and his £16.9 million contract??
I know it's a fashionable crappy tabloid point to bring up, but I think it stands here.
I am sure the BBC 'wastes' sums exceeding £1.7m on comparatively more mundane (probably not the correct word) programming.
For instance, Strictly Come Dancing is broadcast seven days a week when it's getting its pre-Christmas run. That's a staggering amount of broadcasting for any show.
It's £3.712m. Doubt you'd ever get anyone suggesting that minority interest programming gets shut down though.
6music is a 24 hour a day, 365 days a year monster. And frankly, if it’s not getting the audience that the outlay requires then they don’t really have a choice. Specialist programming is one thing, but a specialist station is something completely different.. it’s like if the BBC brought out a channel just for auction tat programmes – the appeal is enough to dedicate some of the schedule, but certainly not sufficient to justify a rolling service.
Now you can point fingers at what is to blame for the lack of popularity, the poor promotion perhaps, the audience limiting nature of digital radio maybe, but I’d say it’s something more deeply rooted in the demographic appeal of 6music. It’s a station focussed on a very particular sort of person, which should in theory capture the listeners of Radios 1 and 2 but ends up falling in between the stools. If it goes too far either way to get more attention then it becomes obsolete, if it stays on a similar plane then it just doesn’t have the mass appeal. No win.
Not a popularity contest.
i'll lead you to the Real World
(and that is debatable)
here's the customary petition: http://www.petition.fm/petitions/6musicasiannet/1000/
or if you want to e-mail the BBC trust directly, their contacts page:
better to light a candle than curse the darkness eh?
but the George Lamb protest was bubbling around on Facebook and Twitter for a while and wasn't necessarily the doing of DiSsers.
Anyway, this decision is a fucking disgrace if it goes ahead.
I remember telling a friend I wished there was a station for those of us that were "past" Radio 1 but not ready for Radio 2, then the BBC went and plugged that gap.
This is rubbish.
I literally cannot think of a single other radio station that I would want to listen to once it's gone. There is nothing.
god this is depressing
i could still listen to lauren laverne doing the exact same thing she does on 6music from 10 to 1
and instead of the zipper in the evening, i could still have marc riley and gideon coe?
6music costs about £7 million a year to run. Broadcasting House went £110m over-budget with it's redevelopment.
digital TV or radio receiving equipment to watch or listen to channels/stations they have already paid for out of their licence fee.
I love 6 Music and would be gutted to see it close, but one of the big problems is that digital radio just hasn't captured the nation's imagination like people thought it would. Most people (myself included) listen to the radio while driving - but most do not have DAB radios in their cars. I have one in the house. If 6 Music had also been available via normal analogue radio signals then I dare say it might have been a different story.
If 6 Music does go, then let's hope parts of it can be incorporated into Radio 1, which is nothing short of dire these days. I could quite happily see the back of Zane Lowe. Anyone remember how good evenings on Radio 1 used to be back in the mid-90s - comedy shows by Lee and Herring, John Shuttleworth and Chris Morris which managed to include fairly decent music?
Maybe if the BBC stopped overspending by sending ridiculous numbers of people out to cover events (both music and sporting) all the time, then they'd have a bit more spare. The sporting ones are the worst - was there ANY reason to send Chris Moyles and his team out to Germany for the 2006 World Cup on top of all the dedicated sports reporters?
So the beeb will keep on overpaid 'start' like Moyles and Cotton, and we'll lose the pleasure of Sean Keaveney, Guy Garvey, Jarvis, and ADAM and JOE?!! this is riduclous. These guys are talented DJ's and I cannot see them fitting the criteria of radio 1/2 DJ's. Save money by axing BBC3 for a start, what a complete watse of license payers money.
Plus it's nice to listen to a staion where it's highly likely to have your texts and e mails read out regularkly, but I guess this is where the Beeb see the problem, with so few listeners....
Something has to be doen though surely.... this is tragic news. 6Music is the only reason I bought a DAB radio...
The only decent thing on BBC3 is Family Guy which (a) tend to be repeats of very old episodes I've seen a million times anyway and (b) can be watched for free in loads of places online. With the exception of The Mighty Boosh, none of the sitcoms on BBC3 have been any good (Coming of Age for starters - want to make a comedy sound any more wooden?) and don't even get me started on I Believe in UFOs with Danny Dyer.
Why is that gap between Radio 1 and 2 so hard to bridge successfully, I wonder? It's like the gap between NME and Mojo. It used to be filled by Plan B but look what happened there. I didn't realise I belonged to such a financially unviable demographic...
like everything, it had it's poor shows...but the good completely outweighed the bad....laverne, riley, coe, garvey,.....all pure gold.
fuck...if it goes, the mainstream airwaves are a dead space for exciting music.
i'm gonna be really, really lost music wise....
'Batten down the hatches, lovers of diversity and cleverness. As I always say, those who seek to give the BBC a good thrashing for being a Communist and having some croissants at its meetings and paying really good presenters some money for doing their job will be the first to write to the letters pages of the Times and the Mail and the Telegraph when the Today programme is sponsored by Immodium Plus.'
they commisioned Big Top, Green Green Grass, Rock and Chips employ Moyles, Cotton, Grimshaw etc, there is enough deadwood that could be shifted to pay for 6music twice over. Twunts.
Just as my day was getting better, where the hell am I gonna hear the Hornblower Brothers on radio ever again? Gutted.
6mix and the funk and soul show are great on a saturday. Majority rule, because the majority of people like crap then it's fair to charge me a tenner a month for a license fee and get nothing in return just to fund all those god awful shows that are popular. Also if they take some 6music shows and bring them to radio 1 they re going to put them on in the middle of the night when nobody is listening.
It's a scheduling issue.
And Lesley Douglas should be ashamed of herself for treating 6music as some kind of DJ training ground for the (mostly) comedians from the John Noel Agency.
if 6music goes, no where will i be able to hear quick canal by atlas sound, java jive by the inkspots, she is beyond good and evil by the pop group, a wave pictures live session and a documentary on krautrock all on the same fucking day.
"how am I going to get my band on BBC radio now?", I hope that they keep a digital version of the Introducing shows going if just to give bands their first rung on the ladder. In fact i hope that they can keep a lot of the shows going on, say, the iplayer even if they are abandoning the airwaves.
Also, why buy a DAB radio when you can listen on freeview/PC? I think having the radio via freeview is bloody brilliant personally, would be awful if that went.
(where the internet connection is too unreliable to stream well)
to keep the bandwidth healthy...? :D
I listen to the radio. Most of my evening radio listening time is spent listening to 6Music.
If this happens, I will be vexed.
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