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What we all making of this album then?
still not sure...all I know is I still want to listen to it and find out, I've got a good feeling about it.
I sat on that review, cos my g/f says, "Are you sure that's an even-handed review?" I think she's used to me pulling out the ol' asshole-cap when I do those things.
But no. I went back and rewrote it using bigger and more expressive superlatives. Heh. I've given out about three 9/10s (and one that shoulda been a nine) in the five years I've written reviews here (though, admittedly, I only do a handful a year), and I've never been more confident about assigning a number. 9/10
I really liked the 1st album. All I've heard is the single, and to be honest I don't like it.
to come down to personal taste on this one. It will divide people all year!
Personally, I think it flatters to deceive. The first time I listened to it I thought the songs throughout the album were very similar in sound and lacked variety. I did listen to it another time or so and I could pick up the nuances, shall we say. However, it is not an album I am deriving much pleasure from and I don't think I will be going back to it very often during the year.
It's quite a progression from the first album. It's not an easy listen, you have to give it your attention, and sometimes I just don't want to listen to it. But when I do it's a very rewarding experience.
It's got loads of atmosphere and just feels like a really huge album.
so much confidence all over it. I mean this kind of stuff could be ridiculous and pretentious, but this is just brilliant. this is probably the fifth time I say this here, so that's some hype for you.
the melodies and drums are incredible.
if Onieda had written an album half of good as this the underground would collectively wet itself. as its TNP, i think a lot of people will overlook it and it may be 'too much' for earlier fans.
hopefully seeing them live will make it better for me, but i haven't heard the best reviews!
it puzzles me when people keep attaching the 'it can be a difficult listen' caveat....which seems ridiculous....people have wanked themselves out over more austere and opressive soundscapes in the last few months and years, i'm not sure why the phrase, 'difficult listen' is mentioned at all.
anyway. tis good stuff.
its VERY catchy
I'm a little bit in love with it right now - too much so to give it an even-handed review rather than a gushing OMG IT'S AN 11/10 BELTER!!! It'll probably settle down in a month or three to be an 8/10 or 9/10 maybe, but fuck settling down. Right now it's all I want to listen to.
apart from the first track. I can't get past the vocals, they remind me of Jona Lewie's Stop The Cavalry. May give it another chance though...
The cynic in me does listen and wonder if the band basically said lets mash up a Bjork and Liars record, but the other half of me doesn't care and is just reveling in it.
It's good to run to.
of cirque du soleil albums. Weird.
Does it have very dour male vocals? Because i'm not sure if I can tolerate that.
they're fairly dour. Don't let that put you off though, it's better than imagining trapeze artists flying through the air dressed as chimps.
but the drumming/melodies are out of this world. they should release an instrumental version really.
If anything, they should've record it with choirs/Heather Marlatt out of Salem doing all the vocals.
I'd never heard of them or, indeed, heard anything by them before I listened to this album because a mate kept going on about it. Don't know who they are or what they've done before, but this album is wonderful though.
Ambitious, kind of ridiculous, menacing, deftly orchestrated - yet it's missing something. I really liked the first record and thought they were an excellent, fiery live band. I knew this record would be something special but now it's here I somehow feel disappointed. I'm not entirely sure why, but I think that it's not entirely cohesive - or at least doesn't flow as well as I'd like it to - though the highlights are huge (the oozing evil of We Want War's huge drums for one). I'm glad this record was made and I love that they've just gone and made something this unique, but I don't think it's as successful as a) I wanted it to be and b) other people seem to think it is.
Serious contender for lp of the year already, it's so much better than half the stuff getting hyped to the nines on Pfork and the like - I don't particularly like comparing bands and their merits but when the likes of Beach House are getting 9/10s, this record on that basis is like 36/10. Like, four times better...
as it's gone now :(
Hope it'll come back! Avalanche don't have it in yet :(
it's ok, not more, not less. whilst it is good if someone tries something different, this album could have done with a bit more variety. tbh I find it a bit dull, everything kind of sounds samey and the vocals surely don't help in that respect. we want war is no exception. yeah, the drums are good on it, does that alone make a good record? no. it lacks strong melodies too if you ask me. so, it's ok. it's far from outstanding though.
description of the album for me. Spot on.
but nothing much stood out to me. like you say, very samey, very grey. a bit too droll for my taste
but it's ok if you do. Strong melodies are really not the thing they are going for is it? That's like accusing Mulholland Drive for not having enough jokes.
Also, your "samey" is someone else's "coherent" or "focused". They are building a whole unique world of sound and atmosphere, which makes the album a strong, wholesome experience.
It's pretty fucking close to outstanding I'd say.
it's music, right? music is in essence melody, or at least melody based. now, I'm pretty sure they didn't want to go for strong melodies, but maybe they should have. that would at least have helped them a great deal in making it easier to remember the songs - oh, hang on, it probably wasn't their intention to write 'songs'. they try to be experimental. fair enough, I'm not condemning that at all. but that's the thing - it's not THAT experimental. and they DO have melodies - but not very strong ones.
I understand that this is more about atmosphere than anyting else. but then I feel it plods along too often to really captivate me. it's just so... monotonous. it could have been great. the only thing is: it isn't.
think it has some great melodies, the opener and 4&5 are wrought with them. and whilst there are a lot of building pieces there are also some pretty straight-forward tracks.
its not for everyone granted, but i love me those melodies
maybe they should have at least some strong melodies, it would have helped them a great deal in making it maybe easier to remember their music. they try to be experimental - but they aren't THAT experimental at all. I know, it's mostly about atmosphere - but I'm sorry, they fail to build up tension, the album plods along too often for too long, ergo it bores me. I've listened to it many times now and find it increasingly monotonous. I kinda like hologram, the rest I simply fail to remember.
now, I'm not saying it's bad at all. it has it's moments, I'm just not buying the hype. as with most hyped bands, the hype is disproportionate. once again, it's ok. is it great? it could have been but TNP failed ultimately to deliver...
more than I actually like it.
But it's brave and occasionally brilliant (especially the first three tracks).
Rather this than another slew of landfill indie or eighties rehashes.
...it is with respect to all reason and right thinking, the most original album and most affecting album I have heard in quite some time. I don't get off on originality per se and many of the bands and artists I listen to follow very similar styles and sounds but in this case, the ambition has hit me like a tube train.
It is deceptivley simple in feel - but it hits out at you like something violent and oppressed and yet at other times it sounds hairs on the back of the neck, atmospheric. Really really wonderful album and I will be buying the special addition because I honestly think it could be one of those great albums that people compare future good albums to. It could be seminal - it could be the capital or a full stop in music history - I really believe and hope in all these things.
Not listening to it right now though cause I have a poor quality download of it and I want to experience it in the way it was intended, when I rip it from CD.
...said that a lot of the stuff, particularly the brass, reminded him of the incidental music in The World At War.
i started watching it this week and i can confirm that, yes, hidden does have an atmosphere that could appropriatly lend itself to soundtracking the weaknesses of the maginot line
possibly his best spot since he said that the first midlake album reminded him of The Village,...M. Night Shyamalan's seminal treatise on modern life being a bummer.
I cant believe the fuss this album is getting. I've listened to it quite a lot, there are some belters on it, but it is nowhere near as good as all the people getting excited about it are making out.
The same kind of thing happened with their last album, then no one mentioned them again for ages, until now.
I'd give it 7 out of 10. I think they could make a brilliant album, just this isnt it.
(and failed) to love this. Bad year so far - Good Shoes 2nd also a turd and I'm aware of Owl City suddenly. Surely The National will not disappoint me too.
...their opinions always serve to make it more worthwhile. After all, what could be more boring than an album which is universally loved and to which everyone agreed on? What would be the point of liking any album or band if you didn't have to defend your opinions to anyone?