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Is grunge. That's about it.
And he would know.
That post was aimed at 13Monsters, not Fakest, sorry.
For me, grunge was playing metal sludge with a punk 'tude. So Bleach definitely counts if you're going by that definition, but the rest, probably not so much.
Sure. Are you both:
...it was a media invention.
But, if your associate is adamant that Nirvana are not associated with the loose sub-genre of indie rock that centred on and around Seattle in the early nineties then he is clearly a time wasting cunt.
The phrase was coined when it was used to describe a specific band of the city's scene by a bandmember of Mudhoney, Mark Arm, writing under a pseudonym.
It was just an adjective, but it felt right to the mainstream media, and from there just got bigger.
But it means little, and your second para is very accurate indeed.
non of them sound the same anyway. Seattle? check. Check shirts? check. bit miserable? check.
a crashing trainspotter bore and point out that arguing about arbitrary music genre definitions is a pursuit for Terminal-Reduction-Bumming amoebas and serves no good but to fill up webspace on the worst, most chinscratchy parts of pop music websites. It's like you both trying to fuck the same open window.