Tip of the Tips | Times
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6964147.ece
it's an interesting idea but not sure asking asks no-one's really aware of yet to suggest more acts the average reader probably isn't aware of, is the best way to introduce music. Would be much more interested in bands who broke through in the past decade suggesting acts they think have what it takes to make an impact in 2010. Nice idea tho...thoughts?
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I don't get
why bands who've only recently released albums appear in some Tips For pieces. Passion Pit, Bombay Bicycle Club and the Boxer Rebellion clearly aren't going to get bigger than they are now (same with The XX, who've appeared in a few such roundups).
There's a certain perversity to Sam Duckworth, asked which new bands he thinks might hit big, answering the Get Up Kids.
also
pretty funny someone picking Deerhoof, who will have been around for 20 years in 2011.
you have to ask yourself
outside of the 1000 or so people who go watch these bands in London, and the few hundred who see them play in other cities, are these bands who've really crossed over to all the people who might like them? until Diver started working in the DiS office I hadn't actually heard any Deerhoof and had only heard 'of' them because of Careless Talk/Plan B and mentions on these boards - not exactly the domain of the average music fan / Times reader?
i found it telling that i 'tipped' Frightened Rabbit on Radio1 the other day and most people involved had only vaguely heard of them or caught a bit of a set and Tom Robinson wasn't even aware of them. whereas on these boards they would be deemed an established band, yet nearly everyone who saw them at our 9th Birthday in Manchester was seeing (and/or hearing them!) them for the first time
i have a fairly big problem with the way acts who've barely found an audience are deemed less exciting than a band no-one had heard of 2months ago. am sure everyone here would rather the media was talking about 'good' music, rather than just stuff that happens to brand new? i think it says a lot that the White Stripes were one of the bigger bands of the past decade but were introduced as a new band after a few records... same goes for At the Drive-In but also for various re-incarnated bands who were forced to change their name for their music to be given a chance and not written off as has-beens/also-rans/obviously-something-wrong-with-them-so-won't-bother-listening.
anyway, i have a whole 'trouble with new music' essay to finally write...
the point is more that it seems unusual
for someone to tip them specifically for next year when their basic sound hasn't changed significantly over the last 3 or 4 albums.
interesting point
whereas Yeasayer have come back sounding like a different kind of band, sort of and were tipped by Huw Stephens last night on Radio1, which didn't seem that weird to me but saw some odd remarks about it on the web...
But that doesn't apply for everyone
Spoon, for example - GaGaGaGaGa went Billboard top ten and in America they're clearly regarded as one of the big guitar bands of the 00s, so Transference is being awaited eagerly by the US alt community, blogs etc. I haven't seen a single mention of it in the British music press - in fact the Guardian openly mocked P4K for putting Kill The Moonlight high up in their end of decade list.
indeed
the alt.country scene seems much more aware of how small it is but how big some of 'their acts' get. it's much healthier and there's often more repetition of 'i like this band, you should really check them out' whereas from my experience indier/electronic blogs seem to only post about acts once or twice, constantly trying to post about stuff no-one else has posted about.
I've somehow seen Spoon twice (both times at SXSW due to arriving early for the band after) and I still can't remember what they sound like.
spoon >>>>>> phoenix
in the indie-ish pop rockers stakes imho
i'll give 'em another go
you should give phoenix another try too.
oh, and one other thing...
it's interesting and I'm not sure how much people agree that a lot of american acts, who build up a head of steam with the US release of their records, have a leg up on british acts releasing records without the same word of mouth and hype... i wonder whether Bon Iver, The Shins, etc would have done worse if their records weren't available on import and covered stateside before they were available here? the churnover of releases is immense and with a few exceptions (Wild Beasts, Friendly Fires and Hot Chip spring to mind) it seems really difficult to get a leg on the ladder as a new-ish act if you're not one of the acts on the self-perpetuating start of the year tip-lists or have a record which under-preformed and was given a second lease of life... much like hardbacks and cinema releases help the paperbacks and dvds and often it's the latter which benefit from consolidating the critical/enthusiasm of the initial release. Then again, do we really wanna live in a world where Longwave or Longview or whichever one it was, re-releasing albums 4 times?
I can see where you're coming from, and it's certainly interesting
to see how that contrasts with the way that bands such as the Strokes and the White Stripes (in fact, any of the bands that were part of the pre-Pitchfork 'New Music Revolution') were 'broken' over here in the UK by their record labels with the help of the NME.
I've said it before on another thread before,
but a lot of people - myself included - are excited by music that sounds different, 'fresh' (urrgh, horrible term), or inconceivable. Of course 'new' bands are going to appeal more than ones that are honing their sound on their fifth album.
As to the marketing of older bands as new, well there is something to be said for a band that - fleetingly - seem to embody the zeitgeist before crashing. It's much more exciting than a band building up slowly, or plodding along releasing excellent albums to little attention. We like acts that briefly lift us off of our feet like a wave in a leisure centre swimming pool, before waiting for the next one to come along.
Massive kudos to Gareth LC!
for mentioning Zola Jesus, much overlooked this year I think.
also Stornoway tipping Foxes!
great indie pop and I think they have just finished recording their album and are looking for a label for it currently (they might be my friends but they are stil awesomeness)
No
it's a ridiculous idea. It's like the whole awful 'tips!' culture in this country's media finally eating itself from the inside out.
that was my gut reaction
until i read Gold Panda's tips
very
year of the panda
The way
No, Fastball aren't going to make a comeback this year
bollocks stupid fat thumb.. i meant to say;
The way I see it is that you almost dont want your first album to do particulalrly well or be tipped for greatness. The most succesful (artistically and to an extent fanacially) are never particualrly big or tipped on their first album but grow from album to album both creatively and in terms of fan base.
Bands who explode quickly invariably fade away just as quickly in my (admittedly limited) experience.
that is a pretty strange tip list
several of them have been around a while and I kind of like the idea of that, but The Boxer Rebellion?
That Ellie Goulding sounds like she could be worth a listen as does Marina. I usually find these things to be a let down though, even last years DIS tips didn't do much for me from what I can remember
Foe me, the best tips from last year came from Dusted, from there I discovered Staff Benda Bilili, Strange Boys and a couple of cracking tracks from Teeth Mountain and Bachelorette. I shall be shecking theirs out again
for a quick reminder
here's last year's tips http://drownedinsound.com/news/4136165
my main prediction was Temper Trap would do well and they seem to have done pretty well :)
year before that was Friendly Fires
'There is an Arcade Fire-esque sharing of snarly vocals between Gareth and Aleksandra and a lot of buzz around SECOND album Romance Is Boring, due on February 1.'
Huh? I guess that proves Sean's point about 'our' bands being unknown to the wider world.
Unless it's that nonsense about WABWAD not being a proper album. Meh.
Well, if the band won't class it as one...
The desperate shoehorning of Arcade Fire in there was more eye-opening.
They can claim to be prehistoric settlers who've fallen into a time-warp for all I care,
they're still a band to me.
Since when did 10 songs released on CD (with bonus dvd) in a box containing badges and a booklet with lyrics and a sketch by a member of Grandaddy qualify as anything other than an album? That'd be like if Oasis had said Be Here Now was just an extended EP and the real follow-up was still to come.
To me, that record screams second album and it's silly to suggest otherwise.
But... but...
Aleks left the band...?
she's still on the album though
These Monsters album in March.
Very nice indeed.
This article is indicative of the over-saturation of the music indistry. Also, what is a tip? A band who will bring out a records the public as a whole will love or just a record that will garner a few positive blog reviews and the band won't be heard of again?
And just in case, the Times have written another one
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6971721.ece
Seems to be a suggestion in there that Animal Collective and the Strokes are virtually one and the same.
i want to know what the tips of the tips of the tips are
times have made a playlist most of these acts on spotify
http://bit.ly/4SN93k