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is complete utter shit.
albums/songs don't change, you change. it should be i've grown on this album, no?
Some albums don't catch straight away. They are growers. I liked Boxer by The National at first. Now I love it. It grew on me...
the point i was making is that the music/songs itself don't change whatsoever, so it has to be a change within yourself, hence you're growing on it rather then it growing on you.
I didn't understand. Not in the least. I couldn't stand Mangum's voice, his lyrics were poor, and the arrangements were the worst.
Now, it's one of the most breathtaking albums I've ever heard. Two-Headed Boy Pt. II and Oh Comely remain two of the most flawless songs I've heard in my life, and I long for the day that, God willing, they make another album. Or song. Or SOMETHING.
I blame Decemberists. I hated them at first, but when they clicked with me, Neutral Milk Hotel clicked. Why? Fuck if I know. Similar voices, I suspect.
Having heard (and hated) Decemberists first, I can't listen to Neutral Milk Hotel without being reminded of them in some respect.
You always refer to things as having "grown on me", the words are collocates. If you want to say it the other way around, just say 'I have grown to like it'; still makes sense.
I can't really deny that being able to tolerate Colin Meloy's whiny jangle allowed me the means to, over time, click with Jeff Mangum's... whatever the hell you would call it.
In any other respect (lyrics, sound, so on) they couldn't be more far apart (other than the use of odd instruments -- hello, singing saw), but the voice... and I know it's not just me. I put Aeroplane on for my mum a couple years back and she got all excited, thinking I had a new Decemberists record for her.
but the phrase is applied to all kinds of things where it's clear the object in question hasn't really changed.
I can see how you might not love something immediately but surely there's comes a point when your change in feeling comes more from wanting to force yourself to like it rather than anything else?
I remember seeing someone say they hadn't liked a particular band's second album (the follow-up to a critically acclaimed first album) for the first sixteen or seventeen listens and then they loved it. That seems to me to be your brain tricking you more than anything else.
I've certainly come back to albums I didn't think much of and really got into them but that was more about many months between listenings so naturally I will have changed.
I'm referring more to albums you've recently aquired that you play over and over until you convince yourself you like them.
Some albums need you to be in the right mood to "get". Others may need you to get accustomed to a very particular vocalist...
BTW sorry not to meet you this week. It got to Monday and I suddenly realised I had no plan to meet you or how to contact you...
I couldn't meet anyone...
And to go back on topic, one album I didn't get for weeks until it finally clicked is 'lumière & trahisons' by french band Marc Seberg, now probably one of my top20 album ever...
you're one of the more insightful posters on here, but you're way off on this one
i'm quite a passive person so it usually takes me 10 or 15 listens just to get to know an album. i think there's ways of listening, like lying down with your eyes shut, or background music while you troll the internet. i've never come to the decision of not liking an album then liking it later, but i've waited for ages to form a proper opinion on some records. i'd class these as 'growers'.
Basically your immediate reaction to anything can't and shouldn't change?
What a bag of wank.
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While I accept that the music itself will remain exactly the same from the moment that the record is pressed, sometimes it takes several listens to really appreciate what is happening on an album. This doesn't necessarily mean that the listener has changed, more that you have become accustomed to what you are listening to.
It's the same with a lot of things. Some people that I haven't immediately clicked with have gone on to become my best friends. Some albums that took a little perseverence have gone on to become my favourite albums.
album has grown on me.
so yes, it is our relationship to the record that changes, not the record itself. we don't always use language in the most logical way.
NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T!