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I can't think of anyone right now.
I would count The Strokes as the American equivalent of Bloc Party.
Pink Floyd is the answer to this question. Or Oasis. Or The Stone Roses.
and I thought that their third one was better still
American Psycho though ;)
see also - the libertines
the same strokes who released Juicebox, Reptilia, You Only Live Once, Under Control, Whatever Happened, Automatic Stop to name but a few after their debut?
Room on Fire is a perfect follow up to their debut
than is this it?
Much more coherent, developed record than its often given credit for. Firt album full of hit singles. Second album much more reflective of the real band.
I've always enjoyed Room On Fire a lot more. Though I'd probably say that Julian Casablancas' lyrics are slightly better on Is This It.
I actually quite enjoyed their second album, You Could Have It So Much Better, but most people seem to think it's awful. Overall though their career seems to have had the same trajectory as Bloc Party's. With that said, I have also enjoyed a lot of Bloc Party material post-Silent Alarm.
(What's The Story) Morning Glory > Definitely Maybe
Although I do agree with the Pink Floyd sentiment.
Piper at the Gates > Everything that pink floyd have done since by 100000 miles!
In what way is Piper better than Dark Side and Wish You Were Here?
I agree on things like The Wall and Division Bell and such though. HATE The Wall.
seemed to go from cool and listenable to tired and shit very quickly (not that they were amazing to begin with)
Utterly fantastic album.
Howl was even better.
Baby 81 had Killing The Light so instantly we have a modern classic there.
They've always been a very good, very cool band. I prefer the way they're more "underground" now. I don't think top 30 albums ever agreed with them (judging by the fact that they broke up/"took a break" after TTOOYO was released).
also see: Hell is for Heroes
every single one of their albums is a fucking riot
it's a goodun, yeah
That second record was flippin' terribly recorded and few of the songs were any cop
single > album 1 >>>>>>>>> album 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new bands
it's on the we get along EP. that's probably my favourite thing by them.
then listen to a weekend in the city, then intimacy.
and then silent alarm again.
then point is proved. they're not terrible records, but nowhere near silent alarm.
that's hardly 'dive-bombing' then
...ok then. misread title.
i'm gonna been blasted down for this, but gang of four.
or at least it was at the time?
Apparently it's 'cos Americans like to ROCK OUT more, or some other such cliché
you're very right.
That's not to say that 'Silent Alarm' is a far poorer album by any means but I think the difference of quality between those two albums is certainly not that great regardless of which one of them you prefer and so I would not agree that a "dive bomb" has taken place.
'Intimacy' isn't great but it's not dreadful. The Fratellis 'Costello Music' is dreadful and using that as a benchmark, I can safely say that 'Intimacy' is not there. It was a disappointment though.
silent alarm dicks on almost every other album of its kind in the past decade, but a weekend in the city really wasn't that bad at all. a 7-7.5/10 record following a 9.5, basically.
Bloc Party to a certain extent too. I can see the band fading away pretty soon though
The third ones where it all went wrong.
Never really a big Bloc Party fan but im assuming those guys recorded that album when they were all young. They just seem to had that youthful energy which makes a great first album, but seems to disintergrate as they get older (maybe a case of too much too young etc). Same (debatebly as The Strokes, The Libertines, The Stone Roses etc)
adolescent, overwrought bullshit from a man who would eventually be revealed as an adolescent, overwrought twot (although some of us knew already).
you're right about them getting even worse though
but only lasted a day, because he said 'the warehouse was too cold'.
Adolescent, overwrought twot. Exhibit 'A'.
in this WAAAAAARE-HOUSE!"
Some might say The Killers.
Ugh. I think they actually succeeded at going downhill within their tracklisting. The first 5 or so tracks on "Hot Fuss", then a slow downfall...
and controversially Idlewild.
i've actually appreciated it more and more over the years. but after that i'd probably say you're right.
rather than divebomb would be more appropriate.
Kick Up The Fire was better than the debut and one of the best record I own. The third album was shit though, blatantly.
Shame really as I thought they had the potential to be one of the biggest bands of the decade when that came out.
the second and the last albums of Reuben are actually way better than the first.
Reuben go like this:
I could happlily listen to it
After the epic 'Logic Will Break Your Heart', 'Without Feathers' was one of my biggest musical disappointments of all time.
Thankfully, the third album saw them back to their best again, I guess the second album was just a blip.
Which sadly cannot be said for many bands.
To be fair, could YOU follow/top Marquee Moon?
because it is still really good!
Incidentally, check out this live version of The Dream's Dream. Oh yes! http://open.spotify.com/track/0NsLr0ayYlPLM0ffwIvZaC
Simply because it's not so familiar and shrouded in classic status.
i disagree but i'm sure it's an opinion i've seen on here before
they've gone steadily from tolerable to shitstorm over time.
Origin of Symmetry shits on the debut, throwing an upward inflection in their otherwise freefall downward curve
But The Beta Band never topped the '3 EPs'.
Hot Shots II is great. Even they said it was when they became "not shit".
certainly the strokes - from absolute brilliance to can't name one tune.
keane (weiners in the 1st place)
most if not all of the others everyone else mentioned
...and how about all those who had 1st albums no one even paid attention to, then had a 2nd album that was top, then they went back into the shitter?
Although since they struggled to put out ANY records post debut, maybe they don't count.
Talking about Britpop, Kula Shaker were massive around the time of their debut and then blew it.
as someone mentioned above, they've had some killer singles and album tracks since. Maybe you stopped paying attention?
That's right, I've gone and said it.
if it weren't for the pretty forgettable Spanish track it'd be as good as De-Loused. i'd say the new album is better than Bedlam as well, so it's not much of a downward slope.
and it's their poorest album by some distance. The only one that's stop them from having an almost perfect back catalogue as far as I'm concerned. Perfect in the sense that all the albums are really good, not that all the albums are perfect, if that makes sense.
awful zappa led zep embarrassathon?
i don't know what happened in-between, but it must have been pretty harrowing. they appear to have stopped looking forward and instead make fanboy music with freakout jams.
frances the mute is amazing.
i'm only really talking about their most recent output, hadn't really bothered to listen to anything after their debut...
2nd album was disappointing.
Also White Rabbits though the 1st track is still great.
Stone Roses- Second coming is pretty wank
No Cities Left is excellent, the other two releases were poor.
I disagree about Gang of Losers as well. Sad to see them pretty much implode anyway.
I've never heard their debut actually, is it any good?
I really love No Cities Left, still fantastic. Curse you Murray Lightburn being an egocentric nutcase
More like NCL than the post-NCL albums, but the mixing/mastering is off, imo.
some decent songs on there.
it was a long time coming. and it was gash. utter gash
The Coral only had fleeting moments of brilliance after their first set of EPs and album.
I think TCTC’s 2nd album is superior as a whole. Their 1st one probably has more hummable singles though…
at first i probably would think similarly but after listening to 'roots and echoes' a few times i think its just as good as the first
don't get all the love for it.
the formulae of which were repeated in a watered-down form with characterless, cod-electro production. their lyrics went from simplistic but original to try-hard and embarrassing.
granted silent alarm wasn't a masterpiece, it has a few tracks that sound a bit thrown together and repeats a couple of lyrical themes and melodic motifs a bit too much, but it showed so much promise, invention and intent that it seemed like they couldn't fail to make a great second album that took several strides forward.
instead they just sort of dug into a bunker.
I don't think the second album is that bad (and the first one is possibly a bit over rated) but the drop in standard is frightening.
Although I Might Be Rising To Ironic Muso Bait World maybe
You can make a good case that Talk Talk are the exact opposite of the answer to this question - their albums got better not worse.
Nothing is as good as Nowhere even though Going Blank Again is still a fantastic album. Carnival of light and Tarantula though, jesus such a divebomb.
2 words and one abbreviation: "Today Forever EP"
Shits all over everything else Ride did (and I prefer GBA to Nowhere).
I admit when i'm wrong.
However i duck for cover if i hear crown of creation.
If it is I've been had
They fucked it up big time with the second album.
Has anyone mentioned The Rakes yet? They must have.
Capture/Release was a brilliant album, Shame they split really they were enjoyable.
but you mean their 3rd album, right? Voices Of Animals & Men was their second, despite what the press releases were insisting. bizarrely. I have Young Knives Are Dead on my shelf. Right there.
Not really a fully-fledged debut album. Although you have half a point
And I will steadfastly ignore any responses talking about Pinkerton or the good bits elsewhere. I've heard them all before, and my opinion remains the same: it's all turd after the first one.
Pinkerton is the best album ever made
You're a nutter.
which is so obscure it was only released IN HIS MIND.
slow hands? evil? really?
one reasonably good track do not a superb album make.
i'm the only person on the planet that thinks OLTA is also a great record
it gets lonely being me :(
second album was definitely more of a slow burner..
their music's turned a lot more complex and his singing's improved imo. Wrecking Ball, Lighthouse, most of Antics, all good with some aspects being better than TOTBL. Definately not a divebomb.
none dived harder than these.
The Strokes (you know it's true)
To be fair, the musicianship of 'ver Bloc is still tight as an Eskimo's nad sack. It's just his terrible fucking lyrics.
"I eat the spinach with complete disdain" or some such bollocks.
"I am trying to be heroic in an age of modernity" is probably the most clunky, awkward...couplet? Slogan?...ever crowbarred into a tune.
for your last sentence
still remember hearing it for the first time and feeling all my excitement and enthusiasm for the band drain away.
the only bit of Room on fire that isn't really good is the chorus of 'you talk way too much'. The pre chorus bit is really good though
Million Dead yet
I prefer Song to Ruin, but its not a divebomb
But I suppose someone has mentioned Liz Phair?
The Lost Riots was an monumental epic of a debut. I bloody loved it, and it was probably my most-listened-to album for the next couple of years.
Their follow-up, Left, was unfortunately not a patch on that.
I've kept tabs on the members' follow-up projects since they split, and I've not been able to get into any of them.
bloc party? AWITC is a good album,intimacy is average/pretty good
the strokes? room on fire is a fucking great album,firt impressions is pretty good too.
kings of leon? aha shake heartbreak and because of the times are both better than the debut and both really good albums,stop tryna be cool and hate because there one of the biggest/most popular bands at the moment.
True, they aren't as special as Silent Alarm... but then Silent Alarm is the greatest album ever relseased in the world so...
and you've no need to apologise for being wrong.
"Silent Alarm is the greatest album ever relseased in the world"
Some good tracks here and there but nothing as good as their debut, I reckon
No-one's mentioned the Arctics yet.
It's not my opinion, I happen to think Humbug is amazing, but I know a few who are of that idea...
only LADS who only ever heard that sixth form college 'i bet you look good...' racket would be of the wrong opinion of trying to include them here
It has more variation and its very fluent.
Bloc Party second album btw is pretty good only falls a bit flat in the second half, there third album is way better.
When they were called QOTSA
humbug is a great album
Some good tracks but neither has came close to their debuts.
Oh and The Music's second album is brilliant - Strength in Numbers is a bit rubbish though.
A shorter list would be those who DIDN'T