DiS' stats
Hello,
Not sure if many of your saw this 30 under 30 thingy http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/celebrity/article6900887.ece?token=null&offset=24&page=3 but just wanted to clarify a mistake, especially to any advertisers who may have read that or anyone who's thinking 'shit this place has gone massively down hill'.
They got our number of readers wrong, just want to clarify that DiS actually gets in the realm of 400k unique users a month. Not sure where 70k came from, although that's roughly how many people have signed up (which accounts for quite a small percent of people who read the site, etc)
Any stats anyone wants to know? Might do some charts in the morning of most read threads or most hit acts if people are interested? We're planning to build a proper chart page, suggestions welcome for types of charts you'd find useful.
Sean
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This thread isn't about the stats.
JAG
Immediately below Katherine Jenkins
God I'd love to be immediately below Katherine Jenkins...
I'd be interested to know how DiS stacks up to our competition
My best guess (for any website primarily interested in music) is something like:
1. PF
2. NME
3. DiS, Stereogum
5. Prefix
6. Rolling Stone
7. AMG
and from there you have a bunch of cokemachineglow, Daytrotter, MBV, Spinner and so on.
oh yeah, The A.V. Club (Onion) has to be up there too, eh
there are a few ways to compare
none of them are very precise but http://trends.google.com/websites?q=drownedinsound.com,+pitchfork.com,+nme.com,+stereogum.com,+cokemachineglow.com&sa=N
and http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/drownedinsound.com
and http://www.quantcast.com/drownedinsound.com
are all quite good for comparison
also
considering nearly none of our readership is in the US, the comparisons get more interesting when looking at it from a UK focus
http://trends.google.com/websites?q=pitchfork.com%2C+drownedinsound.com%2C+hypem.com%2C+rollingstone.com%2C+stereogum.com&geo=GB&date=all&sort=0
also DiS has never had anywhere near the kind of press that P4K or NME (which is a 50 year old brand) has had, so we're not doing too badly, considering.
wow, is the entire online music 'establishment'
in decline?
i think the way the stats are done has shifted
plus people have migrated to various other mediums to digest websites (a large chunk of our readers now just read things via rss, etc)
also i think the fact that sites and services which let you browse music without the need for a media authority have had a big impact the past 6months but September was our busiest month ever, so i don't think decline is the case at all.
well done sean,
i think i might have suggested it before but it would be good if you had the ability to give a thread a rating out of 5 or something, then you could have a tab for highest rated and most viewed, something similar to youtube.
like this idea
def one we'll try to add (as long as there's no chance of the social board complaining)
well, make sure it works then?
we don't have a machine
that can replicate all the weird ie6 setups people have, so there is always a chance it won't work for someone. can replicate most browsers but not all the various security settings, etc
if we're talking fixes
can we have an 'unthis' option for things we accidentally ^thisd please? I ^thisd a _vikram post once :-(
maybe
probably cause more problems than it's worth. we're thinking of adding a "not this" option on some elements of the site - not sure we'll add it to the boards as it'll encourage bullying, probably.
i appreciate that
but your snarky comment just seemed unneccessary. the dreaded social board doesn't complain (well...) over nothing.
sorry, it's more the seething nature
of the complaints, rather than the volume of reaction to change. i'm now much more aware which issues are affecting people and (see below) we are doing everything we can to ensure things are fixed before introducing much new stuff.
Oh dear fucking lord NO THREAD RATINGS
Unless you specifically show which user rated each thread and for what, it's completely open to abuse. Anonymous forum rating systems are a cancer.
yeah
we'll find a way to make it accountable. also at what point should someone rate a thread?
A thread should probably be rateable as soon as it's made.
Essentially acting as a more informative ^This
It's really up to you and the mods, though. I'm just glad it won't be anonymous!
BRING BACK THREAD VOTES!
THE VAGINA SLANTS UPWARD AND TOWARDS THE BACK.
Does anybody else find it a little depressing that those in the
Business, Media and Politics category are all from, shall we say, rather monied, and well-connected backgrounds?
it's kinda the same in music
lotsa rich kids who can afford studios or to self-release or to tour or to pay prs, are the ones getting through. there's also a lot of 7" labels run by rich kids (Chess Club is run by Stephen Street's son, for instance)
I don't suppose it's ever really been any different,
but yeah, I have noticed that in recent years there has been something of a closing of the ranks within the UK music scene.
Shame.
how much for all your uggs
a stats page would be awesome (as I've said before)
things like
- statement most ^this'ed
- band most discussed
- prolific user of the month / of all time
- "batting" averages - most replies per thread, number of nil replies etc
i love stats.
I like the idea of 'Statement most ^this'd'
But generally, it would be interesting to know where DiS falls amongst everything else. Out of UK music sites I've always presumed it's one of the biggest, other than NME.
'Statement most ^this'ed' is nice.
Screw the 'prolific user of the month/of all time' though. There's enough people on here who continually open their mouths with nothing worth saying as it is.
statement most ^this'd
would just be something off the 2009 recommended thread.
maybe
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4194333#r4810599
I knew what that was going to be before I opened it
You should all be ashamed of yourselves you bullying fucks.
I'd quite like to know
What time of the day/what day of the week DiS is most busy.
on average
Monday is our busiest day (lotsa people probably start the week looking for new music or investigating what's out), closing followed by Weds (which is usually when we've built up a head of steam for content). Having said that, it only takes one bit of content on a single day to throw off the average.
Oh and on average people spend 6mins 10s on the site, which is obviously a weird average (some people stay online for 3+ hours whereas others dip in, check a bit of information and then vanish) but is higher than most sites.
2pm-3pm is when we get the most page views and unique visitors - guessing that's either a safe time of day to doss off work or lunchbreak in the music biz or when people start planning what to do tonight (our listings are about to get a billion times better!)
Please fix the current site before introducing bullshit features
which might be nice if they worked, but inevitably won't.
At what possible point could spending time on a 'forum stats' page be seen as more important than having a working forum in the first place?
but not working
what current issues do you have? when i asked previously there were only minor (primarily IE6 related) issues.
The same issues everyone always has!
Posts in the wrong place, double poting yada yada yada. You know the drill. These things have not gone away.
But who cares about being able to have a coherent discussion on a forum when I can look at how many people 'this'd' a fucking post (that was probably posted in the wrong place anyway).
the posts in the wrong place
is a very rare and minor issue and something we've been trying to figure out why it's happening (I think it has something to do with how some browsers refresh and people's cache settings, and happens if you reply within the same thread several times and/or post at the same split second as another users) and the double posting only occurs when the site is slow and i've not really seen anyone double post in about 8months (apart from when the server has been slow, and often this isn't our fault!) and even then it was quite isolated.
I understand these minor things are frustrating (they frustrate the hell out of us too as we want this site to be as good as you all do) but they're quite isolated issues and hardly make it so that you're unable to have coherent conversation or make it so that the site doesn't work. If you have any other issues than these two things please feel free to send me a note or drop tom an email or post on the errors board.
Last week, myself and Tom (DiS' only employees) met a few other music companies, most of whom have teams of 10+ developers and designers, working full-time on sites which are much-much smaller than DiS. DiS doesn't have any of these luxuries and we're - well Tom is - constantly working on improving the site and ensuring all major issues are taken care of.
whoops, i meant "by not working" not but.