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My tip for 2010 http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6902806.ece
is everyone being ironic?....is it a twitter thing?....does the super cool pop music site hipSoPOPaMuSt tweet about how so super fun this whole thing is and get every exicted and meta-frothing at the jingles of it all.
not for me.
or possibly *everyone
this word mash thing is catching
it's a large stretch and a different fish tank but they do.
i knew you'd be a fan ;-)
Are you trying to say Fleetwood Mac and Abba aren't meaningful? While Abba may have Mamma Mia totally boring everyone who isn't a menopausal woman, their songs are still some wonderful and beautiful pop compositions. It's a shame that Abba are often shat on - I see them on the same sort of level as, like, The Carpenters; Fleetwood too.
it took being forced to watch mamma mia last christmas for me to realise how great abba are. tune after tune.
Fleetwood though, are fucking class and that should never be doubted.
but am pretty sure more musicians relevant to 'our world' today are inspired more by PiL and Kate Bush than the other two who are two of the biggest bands of all time. The comparison was moreso that the new music polls are trying to find stuff of a more left of centre slant, rather than the biggest of the big.
I don't disagree that this point could have been put better but I think it makes most sense to the Times' audience.
i fucking love Rumours, one of my favourite albums of all-time.
i shoulda included the voting hotline in the column
but we're not all as cool, hip and cutting edge as you evidently still seem to think.
or watch it on iplayer
Its just braindead tv, sometimes you like to switch off and watch something that doesn't take much effort but still enough going on that you can develop deep hatred for talentless idiots and occasionally root for someone that ordinarily you never would.
I don't make a point of watching it sometime i like it.
is worth its weight in gold. his punching-the-air butchering of roy orbison this week was particularly hideous.
you have to take it on its own terms, and then it's brilliant, dumb entertainment. railing about the fact that its 'not real music' is just pointless. of course its not, but simon and louis at least are quite aware of that.
becasue x factor has no pretensions
It has the pretension that fosters the delusion that Louis Walsh, Danni Minogue and the other one are voting any way other than how Simon Cowell would want them to vote.
but i reckon i am enthusiastic about enough stuff to allow myself a couple of hours worth of piss-taking of a weekend.
And im always a sucker for those big, 'everyone's talking about it' cultural events. there's not much that unites late-capitalist british society, and if laughing at some spiky haired lads jumping about can do that for five minutes, then why not get involved.
not in a belligerent, self-righteous sense, but just in that it puzzles me how people who are passionate about music can watch a programme like that. that's all, not looking for a row, just pointing out that i kind of relate to what he's saying.
i don't think it does really. Everyone who is passionate about music knows that prime time ITV is not the place to go to find it. It's just providing cheap, stupid entertainment and is quite funny.
but to me, even if the music is a secondary thing, it's still horrific to listen to, and thus i can't enjoy anything else about the programme
it doesn't have anything do to with music, or the music taste of people who watch it. It's undeniably shit if you're watching it for the music, but i don't think most people do. They're in it for the lols, man.
i can't believe people actually find them entertaining, they're shit. properly shit, can't sing, can't dance, and can't even do comedy numbers.