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I'm a shoegaze virgin really, dunno a huge amount of great records, so list them please. do it. (not loveless)
shoegaze radio, also mahogany - 1 and 1 always makes 3 or more was awesome
is a great record to dip your toe into the shoegaze genre-its very much the genre re-imagined not anything like MBV essential
if you're willing to buy them on a high street!
uber cheap on Amazon still I think, looking around the £4 mark for double disc re-issues, have a look.
all albums are awesome
though the debut s/t one is very shoegaze
Does Jesu count?
I always liked Film School as well...
although Whirlpool is obviously more essentially shoegazey. Pearl is obviously one of the defining songs of the "genre".
the Chapterhouse records are all awful.
This is a weird one, as I never know what bands to class as shoegaze.
Classic UK jangly stuff...
Slowdive - 'Souvlaki'
Ride - 'Nowhere'
Telescopes - 'Taste'
MBV - Loveless
But i'd also lump in albums by Spacemen 3, Spiritualized, Swervedriver, Jesus & Mary Chain etc.
I reckon A Place To Bury Strangers do it pretty well, too.
Ride - Nowhere
Lush - Mad Love ep
Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
but now realise I only really liked Slowdive.
The first Curve album had some pretty good tracks on it I seem to remember (I've never owned it though) but maybe they don't count as 'proper' shoegaze
The first couple of Swervedriver albums
Drop 19s - Delaware
I suppose you can even lump Loveless in with the whole shoegaze thing
You need the early EPs (available of Pubic Fruit). Three slices of pure noise-pop perfection (incorporating the odd rap by JC-001)!
Lush - Split
Swervedriver - Raise
Bleach - Killing Time
Curve - Doppelgänger
Pale Saints - The Comforts Of Madness
Catherine Wheel - Ferment
as well as the aforementioned Chapterhouse, Ride and Slowdive albums
they shouldn't really be included at all in these threads. The only reason people consider them to be similar is cos they were from the Thames Valley area, and on Creation.
i still listen to them pretty much once a week. fucking love them
sit uncomfortably within the shoegaze bunch (but then again, so do a lot of "shoegaze" bands). Swervedriver were much more rock'n'roll than the others. But I think "Rave Down" can, without much controversy, be deemed a shoegaze classic.
Ride - Nowhere/Going Blank Again
Slowdive - Souvlaki/Life In A Day
The Boo Radleys - Ichabod & I/Everything's Alright Forever
Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
The Telescopes - Taste/The Telescopes
Spacemen 3 - Sound Of Confusion/Playing With Fire
Loop - The World In Our Eyes/Fade Out/Heaven's End
Lush - Scar/Gala
Moose - Jack/Suzanne EPs
Adorable - Against Perfection
Verve - A Storm In Heaven/No Come Down
Smashing Orange - 1991
Pale Saints - The Comforts Of Madness/In Ribbons
Drop Nineteens - Delaware
Air Formation - Daylight Storms
Curve - Doppelganger
Bleach - Killing Time
The Jesus & Mary Chain - Psychocandy
The Nightblooms - Crystal Eyes 7"
Daisy Hill Puppy Farm - Rocket Boy EP
Sigur Ros - Von
Catherine Wheel - Ferment
Revolver - Heaven Sent An Angel EP
The Charlottes - Love Happy
The House Of Love - 1986-88: The Creation Recordings
Meat Whiplash - Don't Slip Up 12"
de Luxe by Lush.
Revolver - I have that 12 inch somewhere... not good. As were many of those bands. Not not good. There's probably a handful of good records in all there. Ah nostalgia.
"black metallic" by Catherine wheel was and still is a shoegaze masterpiece.
If they are, then I would recommend both If We Meet in the Future and (This is) What We Call Progress. They're a bit Stereolab-y and the singer has THE most melifluous voice.
a decent pastiche of everything shoegazey.
i would have to argue the toss that adorable, the house of love and verve were shoegaze.
But the debut is worth a listen too. It's been a while since the last album.
had shoegaze inflections (Christine, Shine On), but yeah, probably only on a loose-ish definition. Adorable less so, and Verve less so still.
Probably in my top 10 albums of all time. Beautiful.
if you're looking for something recent-ish.
then there's the classics
ride - nowhere
slowdive - souvlaki
mbv - loveless
a sunny day in glasgow are awesome and the depreciation guild are like a chiptune/shoegaze band that sound pretty cool!
listening to a tune of their on last and its pretty cool. awesome name too
and really enjoy them, though I've always thought of them as following The Chameleons and The Smiths musically, though they do seem to get compared with shoegazers. If you have eMusic, they have an expansive two disc 'Best of' that's worth a look.
Curve! Curve Curve!
Doppelgänger is an obvious pick, but even better, get hold of Pubic Fruit, which is the collection of the first EPs. Brilliant! They never again quite matched the brilliance of those EPs, but I love all their albums.
Aside from MBV's Loveless, the holy trinity of shoegaze in my opine is Curve, Ride and the Pale Saints. Ride's Nowhere is decent, and Going Blank Again is better, but their definitive release for me is the Today Forever EP. (Shoegaze bands turned the EP into an artform, imo.) For Pale Saints, the first two albums are great (though I also like the third one too.)
Outside the authorised canon, I highly recommend the following:
Underground Lovers — Leaves Me Blind
The Radio Dept. — Lesser Matters
For more suggestions, check out the following articles plus comments from "shoegaze week" (albeit I was posting as DiSassociated, then):
fuck it — let's make it shoegaze year!
M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts? it's got everything. Swirly textures, layers-layers-layers-layers, soft dream-like vocals...
Or anything that has been suggested above - it's all good stuff.
The Big Pink record is actually ok, nice shoegazey vibe to it, was surprised by how much I liked it.
My quintessential shoegaze record is the alpha centauri e.p. by Ecstasy of Saint Theresa, it's out of print but a google search will lead you to it easily, it's just wonderfully atmospheric and I've never heard another record like it.
Interesting no one's mentioned the horrors yet. please don't....
I guess (and I *do* like the album), but even so, I see them more as citing (so to speak) shoegaze sounds/techniques rather than counting them as amongst the shoegaze classics.
although perhaps a little more poppy and with slightly more decipherable lyrics than most shoegaze standards.
is the only real shoegaze song on that record. The Horrors strike me as much more post-punk inclined than shoegaze. I don't see them as 'gazey at all tbh.
though you have to admit that some of the guitar parts are pure Kevin Shields. Generally post-punk, but with shoegaze, garage rock and kraut rock inflections here and there.
Re. The Big Pink: yes, Velvet is the one, though the first couple of tracks from the album also feature some delicious noise reminiscent of shoegaze. I guess it's just that when you've broadened the genre to include some of the ones mentioned already, then it gets hard to suddenly rule out something like The Big Pink.
guitar parts on Primary Colours were very MBV. But the fact that you can actually make out the lyrics un-gazes any potential to gaze. Also, I can't think of any shoegaze songs off the top of my head that have 'talking' in them.
Doesn't 'I Can't Control Myself' have some of Spiritualized's 'Come Together' running through it though?
is one of my favourite tracks of that era, it's on scenes from the second storey but unfortunately for the album it stands head and shoulders above anything else on it..i'd second loop too.
is VERY strange. not what i would call shoegaze at all.
jesus. You people. The God Machine album you mention is awesome from start to finish. And it isn't "shoegaze" - not that fucking "shoegaze" is a proper genre anyway!
NOT. A. PROPER. GENRE. this is simply embarrassing.
however they are as shoegaze as A Place To Bury Strangers, and to me they aren't *that* shoegazey really. But if we're talking about a darker end of it you may as well mention The Angelic Process as well who I would describe as semi-industrial-shoegaze really!
A proper shoegaze classic I discovered last year was the album Hideout by Film School, they have a great daytrotter session here
third mention of Film School in this thread. woo! Really not sure if they're even still together.
Try some newer stuff if you can find it. The Daysleepers and Airiel are my favourites from the newer generation. Monster Movie is an offset of Slowdive and make some beautiful sounds. Tears Run Rings - criminally overlooked, they are sheer gorgeousness. Blind Mr. Jones are a band that seem to have fallen off the face of the earth, but Tatooine with the absolutely beautiful song 'Hey' on it is well worth a listen. Then there's The Butterfly Explosion, they have a bunch of songs available for download from last.fm if you want. Also Air Formation are very true to the essence of shoegaze but you need to give them some time to become familiar to you because they aren't exactly 'catchy'. If you want you can try out Mojave 3 who are a Chapterhouse/Slowdive hybrid. OH! And I am yet to check if anyone's mentioned Medicine, but they are FANTASTIC. 'LA's answer to MBV' or something. They sound nothing like MBV which is exactly why that description is perfect.
Makes Loveless sound like an album of lullabies for children.
were bad. My, I saw them, I heard the records. Piddling indie melodies wrapped up in apparently "revolutionary" beats 'n' fuzz. Poor show.
all I need is someone else to post something else every hour or so, and I'd just keep on adding suggestions, opinions, etc.
God I LOVE shoegaze!
...in the same post...excellent. Monster Movie is wonderful.
Engineers - Three Fact Fader
Asobi Seksu - Citrus/Hush
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart
Maps - We Can Create
DiS did a shoegaze Spotify playlist recently; http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4136689-shoegaze-week--drowned-in-shoegaze-50-essential-albums
School of Seven Bells — Alpinisms
Deerhunter -- Cryptogram
Soundpool -- Dichotomies & Dreamland
Blonde Redhead — 23
And stretching it, perhaps, but why the hell not:
GB3 -- Circlework
Ladytron — Witching Hour
I'd forgotten that one!
I never went beyond a few tracks from the Folly EP/Forgiveness single. What I heard of the debut album seemed to be moving away from the shoegaze/dream pop sound. Is Three Fact Fader a step back in that direction?
in that they still rely on harmonies in their vocals, but TFF seems to be a bit harsher/less laid back and to me certainly fits with my idea of shoegaze.
will give it a go. Cheers.
has nobody mentioned 14 Autumns and 15 Winters by The Twilight Sad yet?
Really? I haven't really listened to them, but my first thoughts didn't go in that direction. I'll give them another go...
I wouldn't personally have said The Twilight Sad were shoegaze, but I suppose they do have the whole 'wall of noise' thing going on, to me they lack the 'dreamy' aspect that a lot of shoegaze bands have like Ride, Lush, Souvlaki etc. if you know what I mean.
Seminal shoegaze bands in order of importance imho:
MBV > Slowdive > Ride > Chapterhouse > Lush > Telescopes
In order of awesomeness, even more imho
MBV > Slowdive > Telescopes (supremely talented) > Ride/Chapterhouse > Lush
while you've more than demonstrated expertise in the field of shoegaze studies, I can't pass any thesis that doesn't rate Curve.
Curve before Lush in both cases (plz don't take away my shoegaze medal plz)
*sigh* Talking about shoegaze gets me on such a high that I will be very sad indeed when this thread dies off...
I'm a bit wide eyed and jittery at the moment, letting off little squeaks as more and more bands come to mind
have already been mentioned but should be mentioned again
Verve - Storm in Heaven
verve - No Come Down (early b sides and stuff)
and the early singles (gravity grave, She's a Superstar, All in the mind)
prob doesn't count as shoegaze, but most shoegaze fans would rate it think.
just noticed these in the big list above.
no matter. if you only listen to one thing make it Gravity Grave live at glasto on no come down.
and I only noticed them with the big one (bittersweet symphony, etc.). Will give their earlier stuff a look.
...despite it being drenched in effects, Nick had to look at his feet to know what to press next, they had too much funk and theatrics going on.
undoubtedly, all the elements are there. Except distortion, but the rest is spot on. They never really were counted as shoegaze, though.
i can see why people think it but...NO! i'd even disagree with your distortion point...they could be distorted to fuck. but they were too damn funky and their stageshow was far too manic to be dumped in the shoegaze file.
They're my favourite band of all time and I'll never see them ever :'(
... point being - I can't comment on stage shows. But a storm in heaven, McCabe's washy guitars and those drowning vocals - that's like pure shoegazer heroin, non?
serena maneesh - s/t
the brian jonestown massacre - methodrone or my bloody underground
Ride - Today Forever EP
is definitely the definitive shoegaze release, imo — even over and above MBV's Loveless. It is perfection, pure and simple.
I agree they peaked with Today Forever though. They seemed to get the production just right on it.
Future Perfect is stellar!
gets more and more Pale Saints-like as it goes on.
Wish they'd hurry the fuck up and release the follow-up.
Wikipedia says January 2010!
Last I heard was Audience No.2.
Streaming what I assume is tracks from Cinema EP from their website, and -- yeah -- a bit strange. I wouldn't be opposed to a little of this on the next album, but not a whole album of it.
another one of those that grows on you like mould on stale bread. Jettison and Pool & the Shine are my favourite songs.
that I've not heard of them other than as part of a list of bands sometimes suggested in response to these periodic shoegaze discussions. Will look further.
In return, allow me to recommend one you perhaps won't know(?):
Underground Lovers — Leaves Me Blind
and if you like that, try Dream It Down, too (dreamier, more electronic, but fantastic nonetheless).
trust ur taste, am scribbling a note to myself on a post-it widget (hurrah technology)
Australian band from the 90s. Leaves Me Blind (1992) is one of my all-time fave albums. Would be surprised if you don't find it at least worth a listen.
hopefully actually being in Australia is an advantage... hopefully
You might be able to track down a CD or two in second-hand shops, but that'll be a bit of work. They're planning on re-releasing their entire catalogue via iTunes soon, but don't know how far away that is.
Hit me up if you want to have a "preview".
Have you heard Sounds Like Sunset, btw? Sydney shoegazers of sorts.
well, I shifted here 2 years ago, but I think that's long enough to count.
I haven't heard of them - are you a Sydneysider? I'm noticing an increase in sneaker starers in the Melbourne music circuit. Having a tough time keeping track of them all, so many many many.
I'm also no longer in a position to go gigging, so I don't really get much of a chance to find out what's happening in the local scene.
I did almost get Love of Diagram's latest, but ended up buying the HTRK album instead.
Feel free to pass on any tips on records to look out for.
Wow, that's exotic.
It's frustrating being a broke student. Love of Diagrams played two blocks away from me I COULDN'T GO, bah.
On a non-shoegaze note, have you heard Kid Sam? they're like intellectual but basic hook-laden (I wrote 'hooky' at first) rock music. I submitted a song of theirs for a DiS mixtape, here's hoping it goes up.
But I see they've got stuff on the unearthed website. Am d/loading and will give them a listen.
Alcest is what I listen to when I'm feeling hardcore and intense. An offshoot of Amesoeurs, I call it black metal shoegaze because I like how pretentious that sounds.
plus Velocity Girl-Crazy Town
I'm not too sure about their new stuff. They played some very mediocre new songs live over the summer.
Film School are underrated. I really dig Fields' song "You Brought This On Yourself". Boo Radleys should probably be mentioned.
You have to mention If You Fail We All Fail
no-one has mentioned the swirlies (blonder tongue audio baton). way more interesting than 99.9% of shoegaze.
Seefeel - Quique is fantastic for some original sounding shoegaze. I find shoegaze at a genre manages to get stuck in a certain sound with lots of bands sounding far too alike.
Also Polyfusion by Seefeel is brilliant shoegaze
Lovesliescrushing are also fantastic - bloweyelashwish
Belong - same places / october language
Ifwhen - we will gently destroy you is also an absolutely shoegaze masterpiece and doesn't seem to receive any recogition as such
Dif Juz have some interesting tracks.
also ride and slowdive are obviously great shoegaze bands.
I got a bunch of tracks from them, but never got round to getting the album. Also liked what I heard of their predecessor All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors.
Will look into the others you mentioned.
lemon n' lime flavours - another one I've overlooked. Muffin 57 is great.
Pale Saints - Slow Buildings (I think Meriel does a great job on vocals, my favourite PS album). Henry is 10 mins 47 secs of shoegaze perfection.
Pale Saints - Mrs Dolphin (contains excellent non-album track Half-life, Remembered)
Curve - Cuckoo
Curve - Gift
Slowdive - Just For A Day 2CD re-release (the 2nd cd)
was on the Half-Life EP (never heard of Mrs Dolphin), but I thought it was on In Ribbons, as well...? Or maybe I'm confusing it with Babymaker. But either way, "Half-Life, Remembered" is definitely a corker!
I like Slow Buildings as well, even though it's nowhere near as noisy as the other two albums. Really like Fine Friend, which is almost alt-country!
Credit goes to you for being brave enough to rate Curve's later albums. I love them all, but most people only rate the debut, and even I have to admit that their trajectory was one of steady, albeit slow, decline from unsurpassed brilliance to mere greatness.
don't see quite what all the fuss is about but I did get to listen to Mrs. Dolphin and find that it has one electrifying song hidden in what is really a pretty gentle, mellow album.
if you want less gentle/mellow. There's a lot of noise in them, albeit not necessary all effects-based noise. And their sound is less layered than, say, Slowdive, and the drums are much more to the fore, so they don't sit so comfortably alongside the main players. But they were part of the scene — and fucked if I could ever figure out what it was they were singing.
the sight of you makes me feel blooooooo!
sometimes it's just as well you can't make out the lyrics. Will look out for Comforts of Madness, did not even know it existed (or did I?)
Awesome Cocteau Twins' sounding stuff. I'd add this to your list fer sure.
I saw the Verve supporting Spiritualized @ Norwich UEA back in the day and Ashcroft ran from the stage after 4 songs and out of the venue. I think some Acid may have been involved there!!
nah, he was off to chat up kate radley whilst jason was busy tuning his guitar or something.
(disclaimer - this joke was better and involved Ashcroft popping round to jasons for a discrete rendez-vous with miss radley whilst jason was busy on stage until i realised that miss radley was also on stage with spiritualized in them days)
At the time Spiritualized had some Lazer Guided Melodies t-shirts that glowed illuminous, when they came on he seemed to just focus on this guys t-shirt. Mad Richard (as he was known back then) stop in his tracks, stared for about 5 mins and then threw the mic down and ran from the stage and through the venues entrance doors!!
Seems like a good opportunity to put it out there again.
These, in my mind, are some of the key records:
Cocteau Twins "Victorialand" (1986, 4AD)
Spacemen 3 “The Sound of Confusion” (1986, Taang)
A.R. Kane “Lolita” (EP, 1987, 4AD)
My Bloody Valentine “Ecstacy”, “Strawberry Wine”, “Sunny Sundae Smile” (EPs, 1987, Lazy)
The Jesus and Mary Chain “Darklands” (1987, Blanco Y Negro)
Spacemen 3 "Perfect Prescription" (1987, Taang)
The House of Love "s/t" (1988)
Loop "Fade Out" (1988, Rough Trade)
My Bloody Valentine "Isn't Anything" (1988, Creation)
My Bloody Valentine "You Made Me Realise" (EP, 1988, Creation)
A.R. Kane "69" (1988, Rough Trade)
Ultra Vivid Scene "s/t" (1988, Columbia)
Galaxie 500 "Today" (1988, Rykodisc)
Cocteau Twins “Blue Bell Knoll” (1988, 4AD)
Spacemen 3 “Playing With Fire” (1989, Taang)
The Telescopes "Taste" (1989, What Goes On)
Galaxie 500 “On Fire” (1989, Rykodisc)
A.R. Kane “i” (1989, Rough Trade)
FIRST GENERATION SHOEGAZE:
Lush “Scar” (1989, 4AD)
Lush “Mad Love” (EP, 1990, 4AD – with above compiled on “Gala compilation, 1990, 4AD)
Ride “Ride”, “Play”, “Fall” (EPs, 1990, Creation – compiled on “Smile”, 1990, Creation)
Ride "Nowhere" (1990, Creation)
Ultra Vivid Scene “Joy: 1967-1990” (1990, 4AD)
Galaxie 500 “This is Our Music” (1990, Rough Trade)
The Sundays “Reading, Writing and Arithmetic” (1990, Rough Trade)
Chapterhouse “Freefall”, “Sunburst”, “Mesmerize” (EPs, 1990/1991, Dedicated)
Pale Saints "Comforts of Madness" (1990, 4AD)
Loop "A Gilded Eternity" (1990, Beggars Banquet)
The Cranes “Espero”, “Inescapable”, “Adoration”, “Tomorrow’s Tears” (EPs, 1990/91, Dedicated)
Spiritualized “Anyway That You Want Me”, “Feel So Sad”, “Run” (EPs, 1990/91, Dedicated)
The Boo Radleys "Ichabod and I" (1990, Action)
My Bloody Valentine “Glider” (EP, 1990, Creation)
Slowdive “Slowdive”, “Morningrise”, “Holding Our Breath” (EPs, 1990/91, Creation)
Chapterhouse "Whirlpool" (1991, Dedicated)
Swervedriver "Raise" (1991, Creation)
The Cranes "Wings of Joy" (1991, Dedicated)
The Telescopes "Everso", "Celeste" (EPs 1991, Creation)
Catherine Wheel “She’s My Friend”, “Painful Thing”, “Black Metallic” (EPs, 1991, Fontana)
Moose "Jack","Cool Breeze", "Reprise" (EPs 1991, Hut)
Slowdive “Just for a Day (1991, Creation)
My Bloody Valentine “Loveless” (1991, Creation)
Curve “Blindfold”, “Frozen”, “Cherry” (EPs 1991, Anxious)
The Belltower “Popdropper” (1992, Ultimate)
Moonshake “Eva Luna” (1992, Too Pure)
Revolver "Baby's Angry" (EP Compilation, 1992)
Catherine Wheel “Ferment” (1992, Fontana)
Pale Saints "In Ribbons" (1992, 4AD)
Lush "Spooky" (1992, 4AD)
Spiritualized “Lazer Guided Melodies” (1992, Dedicated)
The Boo Radleys "Everything's Alright Forever" (1992, Creation)
Moose "...XYZ" (1992, Hut)
Th’Faith Healers “Lido” (1992, Too Pure)
The Telescopes "s/t" (1992, Creation)
Curve “Doppleganger” (1992, Anxious)
Ride “Going Blank Again” (1992, Creation)
Adorable “Against Perfection” (1993, Creation)
Too many to mention, but I guess the bands most obviously influenced by the above are:
though I never would've. "Mercy Seat" from the debut, maybe, but even then...
Great list, though. Pretty much got it covered.
on vinyl. Except Cranes, I hate Cranes.
must've cost an awful lot, I can understand the ill will
The verve - a storm in heaven
The warlocks - Heavy Deavy Skull Lover and The Mirror Explodes
The Black Angels - Directions to see a Ghost
The Twilight Sad - 14 Autums and 15 Winters
not really shoegaze but definatly takes elements from the genre and there is some good music!
...93MillionMilesFromTheSun's s/t release which is also one of the best albums of the year (if you ask me).
Kitchens of Distinction and The Chameleons, who aren't exactly shoegaze but seemed to provide the basis for a lot of it.
Considering the Chameleons records were early 80's, then I'd say they were pretty prescient.
Other shoegaze I don't think I've seen mentioned:
First 2 Dandy Warhols
Swans at some points
Starflyer 69 are excellent
Skywave-ex APTBS- sounds a bit like Black Tambourine/JAMC
Black Tambourine- the band which Vivian Girls ripped off
Sennen- from Norwich!
On! Air! Library!- ex- School of seven bells
Robin Guthrie's solo work
and Jessica Bailiff. Further and Even In Silence are absolute classics.
MBV, Isn't Anything and Loveless