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complete garbage, although a few good hits when youre at an indie club and youre drunk. The film 'dig!' makes them look like an embarrassment.
I once fell asleep on the front row of the balcony during a three hour set of theirs at the Forum.
I can't even think of that many bands that i LIKE who'd id want to watch for three bastard hours
I'm a big fan but even I was waning by the end of it.
they played all the "hits" in the first 45 minutes, people were still arriving an hour into it not realising how early it had started ans shouting for Boys Better.
i think neither Terminally underrated or complete garbage
have done a lot of good stuff, but some rubbish
and you have to get past the fact that they seem like foolish folk in real life.
i still love Ride from their first album
more like. fucking joke.
Love them (though pass on Odditorium). I thought Earth... was criminally underrated. Sadly only had one chance to see them live (last year, touring Earth), but it was easily up there with some of the best gigs I'vr ever been to.
They sound like a 6-year old trying to chat up the girl on the swings.
Let's not forget using A / C / G / D for the chorus in each of their 2 hits....
Yeah, great songs.
Take it you haven't seen Dig? Courtney comes across as a right tool.
Or even the chords?
It's not like he was unaware the camera's were on - everyone seems to think there was a real 'gotcha!' situation that happened despite the fact that he NARRATED the fucking thing.
I don't even know what they did that was so bad, other than the photo shoot at the wrecked party house. They're in a band, they sign to a major, they whinge a bit - that's the story of just about every band pre-21st century.
Just after they released 13 tales... and they were fantastic. The keyboard player got her tits and took some abuse from the crowd but they were a really tight unit (the band not her tits). First three albums were great and the rest since then have been gash! Shame.
[actual snigger out loud at the bracketed section of your comment]
I can pretty much ignore the rest.
I saw them at Reading in 2002 they were dogshit
but I really like 'Smoke It'
but I reckon 'All the Money...' is much better. So's 'Down Like Disco'. Nothing else on Odditorium really appeals, though...
get off is a brilliant song.
ie. Dandys Rule, Ok? and Come Down, they're supeeeeeeeeeeerb.
No bad songs at all.
if you like those two. Chances are you won't care for the albums after that (it seems very few people do), but 13 Tales is a must have.
I'm put off by the advert song tho
but, if it's any consolation, it comes way down the tracklisting (tenth), so you'll get to experience masses of genius before you have to suffer that track.
it'll be awfully difficult for the cool kids to embrace them. Their last few albums are certainly hit 'n miss, but those first 3 are pure class.
Dig! isn't really all that unflattering though. Y'know, it's honest. I've met plenty of musicians who are insecure (indeed, most artistic people I know have this sense of being inferior in comparison to some other "great" artist). But despite the fact that Anton comes off looking like this "mad genius," the Dandys are way better than BJM.
wtf, BJM piss all over the Dandys, you're obviously deluded.
they're pretty much the best thing to happen to the universe since the beatles broke up.
I didn't really pay any attebntion at all to teh dandies until the whole bjm feud blew up. I'm glad I did listen to them properly because i think they're great, and I loved their show last year when i saw them in Glasgow. However, BJM are in a ocmpoetely different fucking league, in just about every single way- musically, creatively, material-wise. (only caveat is I'd sooner shag courtney than anton)
BJM shit all over dandys and BJM are probably one of the most overrated bands i have ever heard (i still quite like them though)
is a fricking brilliant album, pre-dated this shoegaze fixation that's around now by about 15 years
It's one of the strongest opening sets of songs on a record going. After that, yeah, it's less great. But still good.
and the first three tracks of 13 tales.... are absolutely brilliant as well
so damn good.
the man has as much talent as a turd belonging to a downs child, his band are all goons, especially that zia bint - who is probably less musically inclined than my discarded toe nail clippings, all of the band are just a bunch of wannabe fuckin beef curtains. make me ill.
The tunes are ace.
And Brian Jonestown Massacre are the most boring live band I've ever seen.
im sure BJM have got some great records, but the ones ive heard definitely weren't as good as Come Down or 13 Tales. i do find the way that the general hipster consensus is so firmly behind BJM and against the Dandy Warhols quite odd, Ive had this argument again and again in the past, normally with people who have only seen Dig and only heard Bohemian Like You, but have gathered from certain sources that it is a cool points-massacre to prefer the Dandy Warhols. Considering that (from what I've heard anyway) the two bands sounds are pretty similar, and that theyre all portland scenester idiots anyway, i dont understand the dandys hate.
The entire thing hinges on the conceit that BJM/Anton Newcombe are cosmic musical geniuses, and they're quite clearly not. But if you hadn't heard much or any of their music you can go along with that.
But if you had and were watching it, the entire thing didn't make a whole lot of sense. BJM aren't bad, they just make derivative swirly rock music. I happen to like that type of thing, but it ain't genius and truth will out if you're doing something great and you have the publicity that they have. The fact that BJM never really made it is because they're not particularly distinctive or interesting, not because of their singer's behaviour.
Since when was having a volatile frontman a NEGATIVE thing for a band's popularity? That would be...never.
was clearly because of Anton's lack of direction though. They didn't have anybody to kick them up the arse or tell them to get their act together. Every one of their records has the potential to be amazing but is often spoiled by too much unnecessary crap.
I do think he has cosmic genius talent. But he needed someone to hone it down. Had that been the case, I can't see how they wouldn't have been huge.
but just because the guy out of the dandy warhols had a pretty great knack for writing amazing singles (and anyone who argues that 'not if you were the last junkie', 'everyday should be a holiday', 'boys better', 'get off', 'bohemian like you', 'we used to be friends' are not killer singles is a being a bit silly) does not mean he is artistically bankrupt - being talented but aimless is not generally a characteristic of great musicians/artists
As I've said earlier in the thread, the records I've heard by them are amazing. I love them.
Anton wasn't aimless. Far from it. It's just that his aims were outrageous and stupid. He had the talent to take the system he wanted to screw up for everything it was worth, but went about it the entirely wrong way.
The BJM's music is so much more mature and interesting than the Dandys' though. The latter are probably more fun in a 'party music' sense, but when compared to Anton, Courtney Taylor's a bit of a one-trick pony. Loud barre chords. That's it. I like it but that's all they do. In 5 years, the BJM had perfected everything from r&b, eastern psychedelia, Britpop-esque punk etc. The list goes on.
ive heard Take it from the man! and Thank God for mental illness, and didnt think they were that great really.
Take It From The Man was spoiled by the terrible production and on my iPod, I've got about 9 songs from the 16 or whatever from Thank God...
I'd recommend starting with Strung Out In Heaven. It's what got me into them. It's on Spotify too.
It's hardly surprising you're so bitter
I see a handsome man who makes a living pretending to make music and no doubt has his penis sucked a lot
but receiving such pleasures from the likes of fan boys like yourself isnt really something that i'd envy. He also no doubt shoves a shit load of smack up his nose whilst shagging a room full of mirrors in his Odditorium or whatever that retardo haven is called.
will you suck my penis?
earlier on, I really think the Dandy's are better than BJM. The only BJM I've heard (my brother is a big fan so I've heard quite a considerable amount) that really stands out is My Bloody Underground, which is a bit of a departure for them I believe. I love the textural experimentation on this record.
I don't believe the majority of the posters criticising the DW's have actually listened properly if at all to their first 3 records.