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Just had to get it off my chest.
Excellent first post.
and right here on these forums, so don't go thinking you can claim credit for it.
You're completely right, though.
yeah but it makes to 1st seem better.
You're all crazy, it's one of my favourite songs of theirs.
i'm sorry, your wrong. it's dreadful.
videotape SHOULD have been this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4hZt--0Yno
It's really very good. Seems a few ears have stopped working properly.
it's a terrible song.
how very dare you...
but yeah, bit pap.
black knights. hello fellows.
I never, ever manage to listen to In Rainbows all the way through because of this song. It's just miserable and tortured and doesn't carry the emotional weight or their best... er.. emotionally weighty stuff (Pyramid Song, Nude, How To Disappear etc...)
And for me, if you hold it up against The Tourist, Street Spirit, A Wolf At The Door or Life In A Glasshouse, it definitely comes off as the poor relation of Radiohead closers.
The skittering drums that fade in don't work either. For a masterclass in doing that effect properly, check out Break You Off by The Roots
but Darkstar have done a cover version... I dont think its a remix anyway. Its coming out on Mary Anne Hobbs' new compilation on Planet Mu and its bloody amazing. Loads of space age smeared synth lines and vocoder vocals.
now that sounds interesting!
but they've taken it off their myspace now as the comp isnt far away now.
found some clips!
sounds FAR better already. but maybe it's just really bleepy and clickly. i'm easily drawn in by that stuff.
and I've only heard little clipse of it so far, I'll have to wait and get it going on the stereo. I love Darkstar though they have so much amazing stuff.
Aidy's Girl a Computer (is incredible)
They've got an album in the works right now for release on Hyperdub its gonna be so good.
they're definitely one of favourite producers in dubstep/techno/whatevs right now.
Really, really hate it. I've seen Radiohead live three times and Thom Yorke once and I think it's the only song they've played every single time. Fuckers.
it's the worst Radiohead song. I was almost sick the first time I heard it, true story.
that was a lie.
there's nothing to like about it.
that's enough for me
... unless by strongest you mean like this ->
but the album version sounded too deliberately obtuse for my liking.
I first heard it live at Shepherds Bush and was pretty blown away by it. Album version was extremely underwhelming. To say it's a 'rubbish song' is a bit daft though.
The early live version was amazing. I still like the album version, but it lacks the rush of the early live bootlegs, with the slow build and the drums kicking in properly halfway.
mate, arpeggi is incredible.
just not a big fan of the way it was done on the record.
i remember the first videos of it coming online and the song just bursting into life; then the version with an orchestra being gorgeously haunting; then the album version pitched an understated, sterile compromise.
i'd like to say it was done in keeping with the mellow feel of the rest of the record, but they reach that kind of intensity with the end of 'all i need'...
not heard the orchestral version you talk of.
sound pretty cool.
for me still nothing on the original video i saw of it though, which is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKwhwgUglXg
... and help from this thread i have concluded it is still the worst radiohead track.
Puck with a P, miss. Puck.
though that isn't to say it's my fave either.
For me, my radiohead ranking goes like this
How To Dissapear Completely
Most of everything else in random variations.
Bits from Pablo Honey, My Iron Lung ep and (at a push) hail to teh thief.
if there was no radiohead and someone random and unknown released it i would probably laugh out loud at how terrible the song is. unfortunately radiohead do exist so hearing 'videotape' only makes me sad.
sad inside i tell ye.
Both musically and lyrically. I cannot usually abide Thom Yorke's deliberate obtuseness but in this song, what he appears to be singing about is so dark tackling it head on would be a mistake.
"You are my centre when I spin away, out of control..." is one of my favourite lines Radiohead have ever recorded. And the discordant piano is perfect. It could lose a bit of the chanting but I think it's a staggering end to a truly great album.
I'm not a big Radiohead fan either.
your clearly not a big radiohead fan, because if you were, you'd realise its a terrible song.
...how a song so laced with emotion, depth and care of construction can be so terrible but there you go.
Your endless repetition of the same point without elaboration is admirable but tiresome.
it's an awful awful awful piece of music from an incredible band. but you're right, repetition is tiresome so i'll sign out of this one. but before i do, i shall say why i dislike the track.
videotape by radiohead:
1 - is faux-naif
2 - has a terrible vocal performance from a gifted vocalist
3 - lacks any really juicy melodic content
4 - the off kilt beats serve only to fuck the track up enough to make it 'interesting'
there are other reasons but for now this will do.
if you were a big radiohead fan you would realise its their worst track.
...than some of the execrable wastes of my time that they've peppered Amnesiac, Kid A and Hail to the Thief with?
There's a fine line between opinion and lunacy, dear boy...
err... 'kid a' is sheer genius. there is not a bad track on that album, so do be a gent and retract that album from your remark!
...but I do find it pretty dull on record. However, the ring trick remix is pretty awesome if you haven't heard it yet. http://awe.sm/1FGw
cheers for that! decent remix - nice one!
look like shite lyrics on paper. But this isn't one of the better examples of that im-ho
yeah whatever crsrusl. I know your type, with your fancy upside down houses and spanish girlfriends and shit. Let me guess, obsessed with Jeff Buckley as a teenager? Yeah?
Besides I kind of need to defend this song as I have the lyrics TATTOOED ON MY ARM.
but that still doesn't take away from the fact that videotape is truly awful.
here is what I have noticed which puts videotape in a more positive light [i noticed this thanks to this thread]:
although the song sucks, it has spawned some excellent remixes / reworked versions. so perhaps it does have something going for it...
are wrong and as such your opinion is Null and Void to me.
anyone who says "are wrong and as such your opinion is Null and Void to me." is wrong themselves, no returns.
you got that was a joke right?
Touche my friend, touche!
Anyone can play guitar > everything that followed.
shallow and pedantic.
but pretty good. Probably the worst song on In Rainbows.
...and I skip the end of the album everytime...other than that In Rainbows is probably the 3rd best RH album after The Bends & OK Computer
in rainbows is not the third best album. if there's one thing i'm certain of in life, its that In Rainbows is NOT the third best radiohead album.
the first rules of radiohead club is there is no second best. only third.
i'm sorry that absolutely no sense at all.
yes, second best. the rest are 1st.
but truth is, once Videotape is permanently removed from the album (as it is on my pod), In Rainbows is so easily the best Radiohead album -- albeit largely because Radiohead albums are generally mediocre at best and tedious at worst.
radiohead albums are DEFINITELY not mediocre at best.
favourite Radiohead song.
shit, i'm going to have to remember where i heard/read that, to back up such a grand claim...
it would be his favorite song. he needs to make a claim like that to make it seem better than it is.
anyways, parents normally always love their children.
loads of emotion, and if you've got a great pair of earphones, then the parts where thom harmonises in the 3/4 of the song is absolutely sublime
gives me goosebumps
and thomass, i've heard this as well, so you're not the only one.
so i just had a listen to videotape on a great pair of earphones http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/er4.aspx
and i'm sorry, it just amplified how bad the song is.
although i did like that bit at the end.
when it ends.
you sarky fucker!
you've obviously got shit ears
Mark Owen wouldn't sign off on the rights?
Faust Arp is a much needed and important interlude provided a light and short break from the more weighty songs around it. Helps the flow of the album immensely. Also, and more importantly, I really like the song. It's their 'Blackbird'.
Ricardo Villalobos - Rubish Song
like he has a new tune out or something.
But I think this was me just lazily glancing at the boards and not paying much attention and doing a double take.
lets get back on topic.
Radiohead - Videotape is a rubbish song.
Its not my favorite song ever, but I don't feel that strongly either way. Its quite a pleasant understated outro to the album. Still prefer it to most of amnesiac.
i don't get the hatred for amnesiac. its an awesome album!